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CreativeDominant -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 9:30:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: YouName

What the fuck is up with people not wanting to take a coffee with people they say they will take a coffee with?
Ofcs if you want me to go to a cheesy overpriced place like Starbucks to drink a whole meal consisting of coffee then I might reconsider too, but I'll mention it earlier!

(Seriously, Starbucks is the scourge killing all pretty little places everywhere, evil, evil).

No, I think it's ridicilous. Unless that's a part of the whole thing.

The overpriced part isn't as bad as having no conversational privacy around the other customers.

I learned everything I never needed to learn about Ottawa from a Tantric Master.
(Nothing against Ottawa, but that wasn't the point of the get-together.)

It did help to reaffirm to me that no matter how good-looking and intelligent someone is, if he acts like he's some sort of sex god chick magnet,..that's not an attractive quality. [sm=ugh.gif]
But...but...but...what about those of us who really ARE sex gods? ~flexes~ [;)]




UnholyBear -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 10:14:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


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ORIGINAL: MartianMan9

Should male subs/slaves have to tribute to serve in a FLR?


If they should have to tribute, I think that male Doms with female subs should have to do the same.

I mean, after all, women are women, right??

Wouldn't that depend on whether this was a dom/sub thing or a man/woman thing?

I had the impression it was the former.

Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.



Actually you'd be surprised to the number of messages I get from male dominants strongly suggesting to me to offer them a tribute!




NookieNotes -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 10:29:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla
Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


Blow jobs. 'Nuff said.

*grins*




DaddySatyr -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 10:32:02 AM)


Indeed, I decided, some time ago, that I am to be a findom. I'm all about the equality. [:D]

My prices are reasonable but firm and I do have references.



Michael




mnottertail -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 10:33:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla
Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


Blow jobs. 'Nuff said.

*grins*


Jesus, finally..................someone gets it.






NorthernGent -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 11:09:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug

If they should have to tribute, I think that male Doms with female subs should have to do the same.



Littleladybug,

Such as?

I could stretch to: "yeah, you've done well there", but that's about as far as it goes with 'tributes' as far as I'm concerned.

What's needed are some cold, hard qualities.

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ORIGINAL: littleladybug

I mean, after all, women are women, right??



They are, and the good ones are well worth a few hours company, but the 'women are women' approach, otherwise known as an age-old appeal to 'we must pander to female, psychological hysteria'; doesn't wash.




GotSteel -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 1:50:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug
Do they, really?


It's the same old sugar daddy thing.




GotSteel -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 1:57:05 PM)

Welcome to the forums, your question is outside my realm of experience so I can't really answer it, I can add that this site warns you not to give people money and that there are scammers in the personals trying to take advantage of you.




GotSteel -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 2:01:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla
Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.

Blow jobs. 'Nuff said.

*grins*


I'm so yelling give me my tribute next time I want a blowjob.




NookieNotes -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 2:25:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla
Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.

Blow jobs. 'Nuff said.

*grins*


I'm so yelling give me my tribute next time I want a blowjob.



[:D]




FieryOpal -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 5:49:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
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It did help to reaffirm to me that no matter how good-looking and intelligent someone is, if he acts like he's some sort of sex god chick magnet,..that's not an attractive quality. [sm=ugh.gif]
But...but...but...what about those of us who really ARE sex gods? ~flexes~ [;)]

Um-mm, you can be God's Gift to Other Women? :p

You know, spread the joy around. Like this guy sounded like he was doing.




UnholyBear -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 5:56:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla
Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


Blow jobs. 'Nuff said.

*grins*



Guess I am lacking in this area....~sigh~




RockaRolla -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 6:01:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla
Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


Blow jobs. 'Nuff said.

*grins*

BJs as the insta-dom method of tribute?

It all makes sense now.

"Well you're obviously not a REAL sub!"




BecomingV -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 8:01:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


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ORIGINAL: MartianMan9

Should male subs/slaves have to tribute to serve in a FLR?


If they should have to tribute, I think that male Doms with female subs should have to do the same.

I mean, after all, women are women, right??

Wouldn't that depend on whether this was a dom/sub thing or a man/woman thing?

I had the impression it was the former.

Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


Some Doms already do but they use different language to reflect their entitlement. Some take control of the sub's time and that has financial consequences. Some take control of the wages of the sub or take control of the decision to work, or where to work or for how many hours... each choice affects the finances of the submissive.

So, a Domme may require a tribute which is a gift, while a Dom may require that the financial risk have potentially life-long repercussions.

Same dif. Just one uses soft language while another uses entitlement language. Even if a sub never exchanges money with a Dom, by agreeing to use their time, focus and energy to support the Dom's vision, that costs the sub money they could have earned if they had expended all of that time on themselves.




FieryOpal -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/11/2014 9:39:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BecomingV
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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.

Some Doms already do but they use different language to reflect their entitlement. Some take control of the sub's time and that has financial consequences. Some take control of the wages of the sub or take control of the decision to work, or where to work or for how many hours... each choice affects the finances of the submissive.

So, a Domme may require a tribute which is a gift, while a Dom may require that the financial risk have potentially life-long repercussions.

Same dif. Just one uses soft language while another uses entitlement language. Even if a sub never exchanges money with a Dom, by agreeing to use their time, focus and energy to support the Dom's vision, that costs the sub money they could have earned if they had expended all of that time on themselves.

Good point. I've read across multiple threads where female s-types have spoken about how proud it makes them feel to hand over their paycheck to their Master. Some were married and in LTRs, but others were not and were expected to pay their own way. I'm not sure how discretionary spending money was divvied out as an "allowance" or how much if any of it got invested for the sub's future welfare or in the event they parted ways. This may seem like the same thing as letting your partner handle the finances because he's better at budgeting, but that may not always be the case.

I have yet to come across any indication that a Domme demands so much of her "personal assistant" sub's attention that she is the reason why he has had to cut back at work or go from a full-time position to a part-time one (or reduce his regular hours). Those Dommes who might prefer having a boytoy around at their beck-and-call appear to have a younger man who is less successful financially to begin with, or who can work from home like some (vanilla) househusbands do.




NookieNotes -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/12/2014 2:58:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla
Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


Blow jobs. 'Nuff said.

*grins*

BJs as the insta-dom method of tribute?

It all makes sense now.

"Well you're obviously not a REAL sub!"


*nods nods*

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

I have yet to come across any indication that a Domme demands so much of her "personal assistant" sub's attention that she is the reason why he has had to cut back at work or go from a full-time position to a part-time one (or reduce his regular hours). Those Dommes who might prefer having a boytoy around at their beck-and-call appear to have a younger man who is less successful financially to begin with, or who can work from home like some (vanilla) househusbands do.


To be fair, I enjoy this. I am the power-earning partner in most of my relationships, and I don't mind a sub either working a bit less hard at a corporate job (not climbing the ladder) to spend more time with me, or helping someone get a new business off the ground.

The key for me is drive and a plan. I don't put anyone in a position they will be more uncomfortable if we break up than they were when we came together.




RockaRolla -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/12/2014 5:52:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BecomingV


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


quote:

ORIGINAL: MartianMan9

Should male subs/slaves have to tribute to serve in a FLR?


If they should have to tribute, I think that male Doms with female subs should have to do the same.

I mean, after all, women are women, right??

Wouldn't that depend on whether this was a dom/sub thing or a man/woman thing?

I had the impression it was the former.

Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


Some Doms already do but they use different language to reflect their entitlement. Some take control of the sub's time and that has financial consequences. Some take control of the wages of the sub or take control of the decision to work, or where to work or for how many hours... each choice affects the finances of the submissive.

So, a Domme may require a tribute which is a gift, while a Dom may require that the financial risk have potentially life-long repercussions.

Same dif. Just one uses soft language while another uses entitlement language. Even if a sub never exchanges money with a Dom, by agreeing to use their time, focus and energy to support the Dom's vision, that costs the sub money they could have earned if they had expended all of that time on themselves.

Fair enough. But in many cases this goes over about as well as a femdom demanding tribute from male subs who wish to talk to her.

But I'll admit my perspective is different from those who are honestly receptive to this sort of thing.

I do still notice a difference, in that I see far fewer femsubs complaining about how Doms are all out to control their money and ladybits. Usually the ones who do (and I'm judging from posts on here and Fet) had sub frenzy come into play somehow and just jumped in with both feet before they realized what the implications were. Is it that femsubs are generally more receptive to being controlled in this way, or that it's less likely to surface until a serious relationship is established?




FieryOpal -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/12/2014 6:48:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Fair enough. But in many cases this goes over about as well as a femdom demanding tribute from male subs who wish to talk to her.

But I'll admit my perspective is different from those who are honestly receptive to this sort of thing.

I do still notice a difference, in that I see far fewer femsubs complaining about how Doms are all out to control their money and ladybits. Usually the ones who do (and I'm judging from posts on here and Fet) had sub frenzy come into play somehow and just jumped in with both feet before they realized what the implications were. Is it that femsubs are generally more receptive to being controlled in this way, or that it's less likely to surface until a serious relationship is established?

Your perceptions seem to describe the "How" of it from what I've observed also. I'm thinking that there may be a subconscious undercurrent which could factor in.

Being a wage-earner or income producer gives the female sub some leverage she might not otherwise have. It makes her less likely to be easily replaceable? It can even foster a dependence on the part of her Dom to have to rely on her income to make ends meet. (Two can live cheaper together than apart.) As with vanilla unions, this may represent a kind of unspoken security blanket of not being utterly dependent on the man and totally subject to his whims.

With male subs, they don't feel as needed, and are therefore more resistant. Money represents power to most of us in one way or another. As much as he may believe he is fully willing to offer his submission, giving up power and control is a scary proposition. Males usually want to hang onto one or the other--power or control (in the form of their scripted fantasies), or both.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/12/2014 2:53:57 PM)

. . . um . . . excuse me, but what is an "FLR"? This is a new acronym to me.




NookieNotes -> RE: Tribute for a FLR? (12/12/2014 3:05:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

. . . um . . . excuse me, but what is an "FLR"? This is a new acronym to me.


Female Led Relationship

Could be full-on, could be sort of a halfway point between vanilla and TPE. Also referred to as ‘loving female authority’ relationships, ‘female led marriage’ (FLM), ‘wife led marriage’ (WLM), ‘happy wife, happy life’ (HWHL), and other names.




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