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Marini -> White House Spending Bill (12/11/2014 7:08:43 PM)
Any thoughts on the White House Spending Bill? The Republicans and the Democrats, ride on opposite ends of the same damn train. WTF? Here are some of the major highlights. I did not see ANY extension of unemployment benefits, oh well let them eat fucking cake. Cutting pensions now are we? Washington Post-- Skimming White House Spending Bill

enslaver -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/11/2014 7:22:13 PM)
The Banks, the Rich, The Politicians, and the Pentagon got taken care of as usual, the common folk are unknown to Washington, lol.

Marini -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/11/2014 7:26:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: enslaver The Banks, the Rich, The Politicians, and the Pentagon got taken care of as usual, the common folk are unknown to Washington, lol. let the common folk eat cake. I still can't get over this Dodd Frank bullshit, have you tried to borrow money lately? sons of [sm=ass.gif]

enslaver -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/11/2014 7:46:57 PM)
According to them, the only people who can borrow money are those who don`t need to, everyone else is supposed to spend every cent they have to enable their loan and build the economy so we can keep up whatever the most recent war is with style and panache, damn the cost,, full speed ahead!

Marini -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/11/2014 7:51:29 PM)
I don't think they really want joe public to know what is in the bill. Anyone see anything to help the dying middle class? may they RIP. It was a great run, while it lasted. Next run, will be the rich and the poor. one of my new favorite links--> RIP Middle Class 1946-2013 They even put a kink in DC's more liberal marijuana laws that they just passed.

GoddessManko -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/11/2014 8:28:15 PM)
I am grateful the Republicans in the House passed a spending bill rather than another shutdown like the one before that cost us billions.Compromise is better than nothing. Well done!

DomKen -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 2:54:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessManko I am grateful the Republicans in the House passed a spending bill rather than another shutdown like the one before that cost us billions.Compromise is better than nothing. Well done! I would have rather had a shutdown than had this bill. It was that bad.

Sanity -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 4:41:15 AM)
Just another trillion dollars, the grand kids will have deep enough pockets to pay it back. Right?

Musicmystery -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 7:18:10 AM)
Gosh. Maybe Bush tax cuts, two wars, a new bureaucracy of Homeland Theater, extending the Bush tax cuts, more war....was perhaps ill advised? Nonetheless, Everyday Economics -- The Federal Budget Deficit Is Back to Normal With the government’s budget year having concluded at the end of September, the Congressional Budget Office now estimates that the deficit for 2014 was 2.8 percent of G.D.P., down from 4.1 percent last year. The deficit is now smaller than its average over the past 40 years of 3.1 percent. The size and speed of the decline has come as a surprise to many forecasters. As recently as February 2013, this year’s deficit was expected to be 3.7 percent of G.D.P. The deficit has declined in each of the past five years, and is now markedly smaller than the deficit (9.8 percent) registered in the 2008-09 fiscal year. As the economic recovery continues, the deficit is expected to narrow even further next year. Based on current projections, the average deficit through President Obama’s second term will be smaller than it was through President Reagan’s second term.

DesideriScuri -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 7:45:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Gosh. Maybe Bush tax cuts, two wars, a new bureaucracy of Homeland Theater, extending the Bush tax cuts, more war....was perhaps ill advised? Nonetheless, Everyday Economics -- The Federal Budget Deficit Is Back to Normal With the government’s budget year having concluded at the end of September, the Congressional Budget Office now estimates that the deficit for 2014 was 2.8 percent of G.D.P., down from 4.1 percent last year. The deficit is now smaller than its average over the past 40 years of 3.1 percent. The size and speed of the decline has come as a surprise to many forecasters. As recently as February 2013, this year’s deficit was expected to be 3.7 percent of G.D.P. The deficit has declined in each of the past five years, and is now markedly smaller than the deficit (9.8 percent) registered in the 2008-09 fiscal year. As the economic recovery continues, the deficit is expected to narrow even further next year. Based on current projections, the average deficit through President Obama’s second term will be smaller than it was through President Reagan’s second term. I agree with some of that, MM. Though, the tax cuts are hardly the problem. What was the total 10-year tax cut? 2.5T? But, that wasn't the problem back then. It was the $770B (over 10 years) tax cuts for "the rich" that were the problem. Perhaps, just perhaps, it has something to do with spending, instead? Do you oppose having gone into Afghanistan, Iraq, both, or neither?

Musicmystery -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 8:03:40 AM)
Spending and revenue are not separate. And you'll notice that the Bush tax cuts (which favored the rich, so I've no idea what you're on about there) was just ONE of the items I listed, the others all being...wait for it....spending. So again, no idea what you're on about. I absolutely oppose and opposed invading both Afghanistan and Iraq. Expensive boondoggles both, sparked by magical/short-term thinking and a hand-out to contractors. And we'll be paying and paying and paying for decades and decades. It's not by accident that we suddenly needed the world's largest and most expensive embassy...in Iraq. Anybody who thinks this was about democracy and freedom is naive beyond saving.

Lucylastic -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 4:38:22 PM)
Sarah Palin: House GOP ‘flipped American voters the bird’ By KENDALL BREITMAN 12/12/14 10:49 AM EST Updated 12/12/14 12:22 PM EST Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said the House Republicans who passed $1 trillion-plus funding bill late Thursday “flipped American voters the bird.” “It’s baffling really,” Palin said in an interview with Breitbart News on Friday. “The Republican Leadership in the House just flipped American voters the bird by sidelining the new Congress we just elected.” Story Continued Below Palin’s criticisms come the morning after the House passed a spending bill by a 219-206 vote. While the bill will keep the government open for another year, Palin and other conservatives are not happy that the legislation will fund President Barack Obama’s executive action on immigration and the Affordable Care Act — or as Palin calls it, “the mother-of-all unfunded mandates.” “It stinks to high heaven,” Palin said of the bill. “Did arrogant politicians not get the memo that Obama’s agenda was decisively defeated in last month’s historic midterm landslide?” She continued, “Good Lord, America said loud and clear, not just ‘no,’ but ‘hell no’ to Obama’s failed policies.” Palin said she hopes that the 162 Republicans who backed the bill face backlash and called this an “example of the GOP establishment campaigning one way and then governing another.” “It’s quite nauseating,” she said. “They promised they would do everything in their power to stop Obama’s executive amnesty — I heard their darn campaign speeches promising to do so! — and yet when they have the power to do so (power that we the voters just gave them) they tacitly endorse Obama’s failed agenda.” Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) appeared on Fox News on Friday criticizing the vote, calling it the “most consequential vote” that she has cast in eight years. “We shouldn’t be funding illegal, unconstitutional activity by the president of the United States,” Bachmann said. “We weren’t even allowed to vote on defunding the president’s illegal activity.” She continued, “What we did, in effect … was to fully fund the president’s agenda through Oct. 1 of this year. Why Republicans would do that is beyond me.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/sarah-palin-omnibus-spendng-bill-113531.html#ixzz3LjYKBe2J

Politesub53 -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 4:42:47 PM)
Palin must be furious at the billions being spent on the military. [8\|]

Sanity -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 5:04:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Gosh. Maybe Bush tax cuts, two wars, a new bureaucracy of Homeland Theater, extending the Bush tax cuts, more war....was perhaps ill advised? Nonetheless, Everyday Economics -- The Federal Budget Deficit Is Back to Normal With the government’s budget year having concluded at the end of September, the Congressional Budget Office now estimates that the deficit for 2014 was 2.8 percent of G.D.P., down from 4.1 percent last year. The deficit is now smaller than its average over the past 40 years of 3.1 percent. The size and speed of the decline has come as a surprise to many forecasters. As recently as February 2013, this year’s deficit was expected to be 3.7 percent of G.D.P. The deficit has declined in each of the past five years, and is now markedly smaller than the deficit (9.8 percent) registered in the 2008-09 fiscal year. As the economic recovery continues, the deficit is expected to narrow even further next year. Based on current projections, the average deficit through President Obama’s second term will be smaller than it was through President Reagan’s second term. Gosh! Bush is still president in troll world?

Politesub53 -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 5:13:53 PM)
Talking of Bush, dont you recall 2008 ? The world is still paying the price for wall street greed. It led to this > "Just another trillion dollars, the grand kids will have deep enough pockets to pay it back. Right?" Not that your selective memory has a fucking clue how finance works.

Sanity -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 5:23:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Talking of Bush, dont you recall 2008 ? The world is still paying the price for wall street greed. It led to this > "Just another trillion dollars, the grand kids will have deep enough pockets to pay it back. Right?" Not that your selective memory has a fucking clue how finance works. Obama is on his knees for Wall Street, one. Two, I never supported Bush spending like a drunken leftist. Three, Bush is history, and has nothing to do with the current budget Four, I do not support current Republican agreement on this deficit spending And five, your trying to make this thread about me only serves to establish that you are just another lowlife brainless little troll

Politesub53 -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 5:38:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Talking of Bush, dont you recall 2008 ? The world is still paying the price for wall street greed. It led to this > "Just another trillion dollars, the grand kids will have deep enough pockets to pay it back. Right?" Not that your selective memory has a fucking clue how finance works. Obama is on his knees for Wall Street, one. Two, I never supported Bush spending like a drunken leftist. Three, Bush is history, and has nothing to do with the current budget Four, I do not support current Republican agreement on this deficit spending And five, your trying to make this thread about me only serves to establish that you are just another lowlife brainless little troll Lmfao....... I am not making a post about you, but a post about your post...... get a fucking grip man. Oh FFS, how do you get is nothing to do with the current budget. Dont you think the war on IS is down to the invasion of Iraq, or that money borrowed to pay for said war, as well as the wall street fiasco needs to be repaid. MM pointed out exactly how the deficit has been reduced since Obama took office, cant you even read the figures and do some simple maths ?

Sanity -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 5:41:28 PM)
All of the Dems in Washington at the time voted to liberate Iraq, many of them gave long winded speeches about the horrors and the evils of Saddam Hussein, you waste of space idiot Still nothing toi do with the topic either, drooler Leftists are fucking morons

Politesub53 -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 5:55:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity All of the Dems in Washington at the time voted to liberate Iraq, many of them gave long winded speeches about the horrors and the evils of Saddam Hussein, you waste of space idiot Still nothing toi do with the topic either, drooler Leftists are fucking morons You just dont get it do you........ nor do you have a clue who theTories are. I would have thought Thatcher singing "The Red Flag" would have been a hint for you. As for the Iraq vote.... It was voted on both sides of the Atlantic based on the lies of Bush (rightist) and Blair (leftist) lying their collective arses off.

Sanity -> RE: White House Spending Bill (12/12/2014 5:59:45 PM)
Still nothing to do with the topic, you blithering fool

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