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joether -> RE: Montana homeowner found guilty in slaying of German exchange student (12/21/2014 3:34:30 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
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ORIGINAL: joether
He'll get to room, shower, and even play with the very people his gun might have protected against.
Justice was served correctly!
Wow. NO!
When we take away a person's right of self defense, such as with incarceration, we as a society have a responsibility to protect that individual. Suggesting that being raped is part of justice being served correctly is just NOT okay.
This person was not defending himself nor his family, when he left the security of the house, to confront the unknown opposition, with unknown skill and unknown equipment, head on, in the dark of night, with no backup nor clear line of retreat. This person left his door open and unlocked, during a time when there were houses being broken into. Why?
Why do I have to keep bring this point up, and not one of you, can give a rational, stable, reasonable reply to it? Because that is what landed the guy into prison! This is not a 2nd amendment issue.
What does rape have to do with some gun nut wishing to be a hero, by leaving his door unlocked and open, during which houses are being robbed, to go outside the security of his house, to confront an unknown number of targets, with unknown skill and equipment, without backup, nor a line of retreat, in the dead of night, without a flashlight?
Funny, I quoted you, but here are your words again:
"He'll get to room, shower, and even play with the very people his gun might have protected against."
"Play with" is a euphemism for jailhouse rape or becoming someone's bitch or however you want to phrase it.
The moment you fire bullets out of a gun, you are...RESPONSIBLE...for where they hit down range. That idiot didn't....IDENTIFY...his target. Nor, did he stay inside his 'castle' on.....DEFENSE....during the whole episode. Is it not important to be responsible with a firearm? To identify friend from foe? That the firearm is used while on the defense, NOT, the offense? The answer is 'Yes'.
Your a firearm owner and you don't know this stuff?
"...play with..." as I mention below means something different. It means 'being around' in the area. "you get to go play with the cops?" Means: The police are talking over something with you. My apologizes that there could be a cultural barrier that was unforeseen in the original writing. I was not favoring him or any other be physically/mentally/emotionally attack in the manner you describe.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
You said that this is justice correctly served.
Some innocent kid got killed by some idiot gun nut out to be a hero in the community. Yes, the kid was trespassing; does that warrant the death penalty? At least those on death row are told they are about to die....AND WHY!
I want an answer to that question I just put in bold from you.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
I have flat out told you that when you take away someone's ability to protect themselves, such as with incarceration, it is societies responsibility to do so and to suggest that rape was okay in that situation is VERY wrong.
And I think I mention to you, to show how rape has anything to do with this specific subject. And you seem to fail to answer that. This is not an issue of some women working late at night, having to walk to her car, and attacked by hooded thugs.
This is about a gun nut wanting to be a hero, by laying a trap and catching the wrong sort of prey. That he left his door unlocked and open, in the dead of night, when robberies had been reported in the area. And when the alarm was tripped, rather than 'hold the line' while the 'cavalry' arrived; he took matters into his own hands (aka vigilantly justice). He left his house, with no idea what he was up against. Not the number of possible intruders, their skill levels, the equipment they had, nor backup on his part or a clear line of retreat. He can afford a firearm but not a flashlight? He can afford bullets for the firearm, but not batteries for the flashlight? That he doesn't bother to identify his target, before shooting. And when he wounded his 'prey', he moved in for the kill shot.
If your having trouble understanding the difference between these two concepts....STOP NOW. Your half way to China in the hole.....
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Being gleeful or looking forward to someone being raped is wrong.[..]
...or any other form of torture. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem enough people that voted for the Bush administration in either election (2000 & 2004) have come out to say the Senate's report recently is correct and sorry for bring such evil to the White House.....
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Rape is wrong.
Rape is NEVER okay.
Fully agree.
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