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Politesub53 -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 4:51:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Gotta watch your mouth...
http://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/restore-families/justice-james-black-cop-shoots-unarmed-white-veteran-orange-tx-over-racial-slur-0057061


So in your opinion, a black cop, cleared by a Grand Jury, is still guilty ? Gotta watch your source.

http://www.texasobserver.org/james-whitehead-robert-arnold-shades-gray-orange/




Lucylastic -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 5:28:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity




Obfuscation and mindless bullshit

The Daily Banter is all far left propaganda all the time

How about

http://abcnews.go.com/US/indiana-cops-tasered-man-accused-excessive-force-past/story?id=26051579

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/09/justice/indiana-excessive-force-lawsuit/

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/us/indiana-police-taser-window-smash/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2783809/Terrifying-moment-police-smashed-car-window-tasered-passenger-routine-traffic-stop-Indiana.html



Regarding your philly.com article... That, in a nation of 300 million people you found one article in a semi-respectable website about a drunk white guy who wasnt killed by the police when waving a gun around... Proves what, exactly.
How about it was the latest shooting I found while wandering the web...simple enough for you, it was a link I followed from another, however you cant prove its true, and Ive already mentioned Eric Frien, Jared Miller, and Cliven bundys cohorts, you mean you DONT want something more relevant or recent? well what do ya know ... even tho there were TWO separate incidences at the same bar
HAH





Only that you are as obsessed with hating and blaming 'the white devil' for Michael Brown committing suicide-by-cop as certain "community organizers" and certain wild-eyed preacher men are

No I hate disgusting malicious minded white men and women who dont see what the problem is

Sure, great idea... Incite rioting. Watch as mobs destroy small businesses, peoples' dreams and livelihoods, incite murder over literally nothing
DONT TREAD ON ME and WATER THE TREE OF LIBERTY WITH BLOOD and "dont retreat, reload" is so peaceful, rational and calm...oh and so so loving

Great idea, as long as you dont have to live here, you live in Canada or England or wherever
Of course there is a reason I dont live in the US. its guns and the shitty healthcare system.

The reality is, its you who hate black people enough that you laugh as they are taught these insane, racist lies
when your insane racist lies are in fact the truth, I dont laugh at all, only at you.

White people are hunting them down

Fucking lies and hateful, irresponsible politically motivated propaganda.
Your posts are full of them....






BamaD -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 6:37:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


FYI: I've never ever seen Sanity admit he was wrong about anything.

See, you do have something in common with him.




slvemike4u -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 6:45:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Carameldomme




"Nobody said this was the first one. But it is the current one."
Well, the original post implies that it's singular. " Imagine if the Tea Party, a deranged Tea Party member did something of the sort..."

mention that the one in Las Vegas was used as an excuse to attack all gun owners.
"So saying that people who pretend that cops are conducting a war against blacks and those who chant death to cops bear some responsibility are not out of line"
Two separate sets of people. 1- I take exception to your use "pretend." There is. If you'd lucky enough to be ignorant of this, enjoy your blinders.
Perhaps those who made that chant do bear responsibility. If they asked for it,I would think they'd revel in their success at this time. However, as I clearly pointed out,, my issue is that 50,000 people are being coloured by the words of an unrelated 100. That coloring is extended to a person who DID NOT organize either of these marches, just because people want to blame him.


I do NOT know that Sharpton did either of those things, but I don't take issue with either. Why should tragedy pause this movement? That's like saying people who work against GMOS should stop their work because a hippie killed mr.monsanto. To say this movement should pause is to implicate the movement in these men's deaths, and for anyone who is involved the movement to do so is almost an admission of culpability. I state EMPHATICALLY that this movement is NOT responsible for those murders. It's certainly less responsible for those murders than the entire police/justice conglomerate is for the murders of myriad unarmed Black men, but when do you see those entities pausing their work? Do you question why they don't?


"You do know don't you that Sharpton referred to this as a revolution in his dismissal of the NYC mayor's request not to have demonstrations today when Ramos's funeral was to be held?"

Of course some take offense to the word pretend. I take offense to the charge that it is taking place.
Once you convince 15 % of the population that the cops are out to kill them you have to be a fool to not expect a tragedy like this. Sharpton didn't have to be in town to have set the wheels in motion. When this happened he was in DC, close to where the shooter came up from, that day.
As you can see Cloudboy is trying to blame gun owners for this.

Well it was in fact a gun "owner" who did the shooting,was it not ?




Sanity -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 6:59:50 PM)


FR

More Than 20,000 Officers From Around The Country, VP Biden To Attend Funeral




slvemike4u -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 7:02:52 PM)

Well that's no surprise.If there's one thing New York knows how to do it is how to bury their fallen hero's....a task that it has had to do far too often.




BamaD -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 7:07:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Carameldomme




"Nobody said this was the first one. But it is the current one."
Well, the original post implies that it's singular. " Imagine if the Tea Party, a deranged Tea Party member did something of the sort..."

mention that the one in Las Vegas was used as an excuse to attack all gun owners.
"So saying that people who pretend that cops are conducting a war against blacks and those who chant death to cops bear some responsibility are not out of line"
Two separate sets of people. 1- I take exception to your use "pretend." There is. If you'd lucky enough to be ignorant of this, enjoy your blinders.
Perhaps those who made that chant do bear responsibility. If they asked for it,I would think they'd revel in their success at this time. However, as I clearly pointed out,, my issue is that 50,000 people are being coloured by the words of an unrelated 100. That coloring is extended to a person who DID NOT organize either of these marches, just because people want to blame him.


I do NOT know that Sharpton did either of those things, but I don't take issue with either. Why should tragedy pause this movement? That's like saying people who work against GMOS should stop their work because a hippie killed mr.monsanto. To say this movement should pause is to implicate the movement in these men's deaths, and for anyone who is involved the movement to do so is almost an admission of culpability. I state EMPHATICALLY that this movement is NOT responsible for those murders. It's certainly less responsible for those murders than the entire police/justice conglomerate is for the murders of myriad unarmed Black men, but when do you see those entities pausing their work? Do you question why they don't?


"You do know don't you that Sharpton referred to this as a revolution in his dismissal of the NYC mayor's request not to have demonstrations today when Ramos's funeral was to be held?"

Of course some take offense to the word pretend. I take offense to the charge that it is taking place.
Once you convince 15 % of the population that the cops are out to kill them you have to be a fool to not expect a tragedy like this. Sharpton didn't have to be in town to have set the wheels in motion. When this happened he was in DC, close to where the shooter came up from, that day.
As you can see Cloudboy is trying to blame gun owners for this.

Well it was in fact a gun "owner" who did the shooting,was it not ?

It is also a fact that a black man did the shooting, so should we blame all black men?
I know this will go over your's and CB's anti gun minds but there is a difference between a gun owner and a gun possessor.
He clearly had no respect for the law, it was illegal for him to even carry in NYC, and he had already shot his gf. I would suspect that he obtained the firearm illegally.




BamaD -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 7:15:18 PM)

FR
One of Gardners daughters has posted personal information on a NY cop, including his home address.
He was present when the other cop overreacted to the situation.




slvemike4u -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 7:38:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Carameldomme




"Nobody said this was the first one. But it is the current one."
Well, the original post implies that it's singular. " Imagine if the Tea Party, a deranged Tea Party member did something of the sort..."

mention that the one in Las Vegas was used as an excuse to attack all gun owners.
"So saying that people who pretend that cops are conducting a war against blacks and those who chant death to cops bear some responsibility are not out of line"
Two separate sets of people. 1- I take exception to your use "pretend." There is. If you'd lucky enough to be ignorant of this, enjoy your blinders.
Perhaps those who made that chant do bear responsibility. If they asked for it,I would think they'd revel in their success at this time. However, as I clearly pointed out,, my issue is that 50,000 people are being coloured by the words of an unrelated 100. That coloring is extended to a person who DID NOT organize either of these marches, just because people want to blame him.


I do NOT know that Sharpton did either of those things, but I don't take issue with either. Why should tragedy pause this movement? That's like saying people who work against GMOS should stop their work because a hippie killed mr.monsanto. To say this movement should pause is to implicate the movement in these men's deaths, and for anyone who is involved the movement to do so is almost an admission of culpability. I state EMPHATICALLY that this movement is NOT responsible for those murders. It's certainly less responsible for those murders than the entire police/justice conglomerate is for the murders of myriad unarmed Black men, but when do you see those entities pausing their work? Do you question why they don't?


"You do know don't you that Sharpton referred to this as a revolution in his dismissal of the NYC mayor's request not to have demonstrations today when Ramos's funeral was to be held?"

Of course some take offense to the word pretend. I take offense to the charge that it is taking place.
Once you convince 15 % of the population that the cops are out to kill them you have to be a fool to not expect a tragedy like this. Sharpton didn't have to be in town to have set the wheels in motion. When this happened he was in DC, close to where the shooter came up from, that day.
As you can see Cloudboy is trying to blame gun owners for this.

Well it was in fact a gun "owner" who did the shooting,was it not ?

It is also a fact that a black man did the shooting, so should we blame all black men?
I know this will go over your's and CB's anti gun minds but there is a difference between a gun owner and a gun possessor.
He clearly had no respect for the law, it was illegal for him to even carry in NYC, and he had already shot his gf. I would suspect that he obtained the firearm illegally.

Dont get your panties in a wad....I was just pointing out the obvious.
You seem to be a little touchy about that though.




Aylee -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 7:40:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Gotta watch your mouth...
http://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/restore-families/justice-james-black-cop-shoots-unarmed-white-veteran-orange-tx-over-racial-slur-0057061


So in your opinion, a black cop, cleared by a Grand Jury, is still guilty ? Gotta watch your source.

http://www.texasobserver.org/james-whitehead-robert-arnold-shades-gray-orange/




White cops cleared by grand juries are still guilty. Color of skin should not matter, right?




DaddySatyr -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 7:51:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Gotta watch your mouth...
http://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/restore-families/justice-james-black-cop-shoots-unarmed-white-veteran-orange-tx-over-racial-slur-0057061


So in your opinion, a black cop, cleared by a Grand Jury, is still guilty ? Gotta watch your source.

http://www.texasobserver.org/james-whitehead-robert-arnold-shades-gray-orange/




White cops cleared by grand juries are still guilty. Color of skin should not matter, right?



No. No. No! The Grand Juries that cleared the white cops were, clearly, racist! Please keep up with the StormFront Talking Points, Aylee!



Michael




thishereboi -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 8:05:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


FYI: I've never ever seen Sanity admit he was wrong about anything.

See, you do have something in common with him.


These forums need a like button.




BamaD -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/26/2014 8:21:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Carameldomme




"Nobody said this was the first one. But it is the current one."
Well, the original post implies that it's singular. " Imagine if the Tea Party, a deranged Tea Party member did something of the sort..."

mention that the one in Las Vegas was used as an excuse to attack all gun owners.
"So saying that people who pretend that cops are conducting a war against blacks and those who chant death to cops bear some responsibility are not out of line"
Two separate sets of people. 1- I take exception to your use "pretend." There is. If you'd lucky enough to be ignorant of this, enjoy your blinders.
Perhaps those who made that chant do bear responsibility. If they asked for it,I would think they'd revel in their success at this time. However, as I clearly pointed out,, my issue is that 50,000 people are being coloured by the words of an unrelated 100. That coloring is extended to a person who DID NOT organize either of these marches, just because people want to blame him.


I do NOT know that Sharpton did either of those things, but I don't take issue with either. Why should tragedy pause this movement? That's like saying people who work against GMOS should stop their work because a hippie killed mr.monsanto. To say this movement should pause is to implicate the movement in these men's deaths, and for anyone who is involved the movement to do so is almost an admission of culpability. I state EMPHATICALLY that this movement is NOT responsible for those murders. It's certainly less responsible for those murders than the entire police/justice conglomerate is for the murders of myriad unarmed Black men, but when do you see those entities pausing their work? Do you question why they don't?


"You do know don't you that Sharpton referred to this as a revolution in his dismissal of the NYC mayor's request not to have demonstrations today when Ramos's funeral was to be held?"

Of course some take offense to the word pretend. I take offense to the charge that it is taking place.
Once you convince 15 % of the population that the cops are out to kill them you have to be a fool to not expect a tragedy like this. Sharpton didn't have to be in town to have set the wheels in motion. When this happened he was in DC, close to where the shooter came up from, that day.
As you can see Cloudboy is trying to blame gun owners for this.

Well it was in fact a gun "owner" who did the shooting,was it not ?

It is also a fact that a black man did the shooting, so should we blame all black men?
I know this will go over your's and CB's anti gun minds but there is a difference between a gun owner and a gun possessor.
He clearly had no respect for the law, it was illegal for him to even carry in NYC, and he had already shot his gf. I would suspect that he obtained the firearm illegally.

Dont get your panties in a wad....I was just pointing out the obvious.
You seem to be a little touchy about that though.

So was I




CreativeDominant -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/27/2014 7:31:56 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Gotta watch your mouth...
http://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/restore-families/justice-james-black-cop-shoots-unarmed-white-veteran-orange-tx-over-racial-slur-0057061


So in your opinion, a black cop, cleared by a Grand Jury, is still guilty ? Gotta watch your source.

http://www.texasobserver.org/james-whitehead-robert-arnold-shades-gray-orange/


Actually, my point is that you can't have it both ways...grand juries clear cops most of the time. If you're going to rise up in protest over a white cop shooting a black man while trying to arrest him, then don't you think you should rise up in protest over an OFF duty black cop killing a while man for making a racial slur?




Musicmystery -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/27/2014 7:44:08 AM)

~FR~

This either/or what-you're-saying baloney is so pointless.

First, it's automatically a straw man, because there isn't anyone so polarized and simplistic as the resulting caricature.

Second, because it's not actually addressing any actually held positions, it's literally pointless -- it's not refuting anything except mental projections.

And Third, pointing out an injustice does not mean something therefore is against everyone of similar circumstances. That's just made up silliness.

Realistically --

No one here supports killing cops. Deal with it.
No one here supports calling for dead cops. Deal with it.
No one here thinks all cops are evil. In fact, most are great.
(fyiw, I have friends and friends of friends who are state troopers)
Everyone here is against cop killing. Everyone gets they have a tough, dangerous job already.

What people ARE against is the incidences of police brutality, especially those ending in death. Those incidences exist. They shouldn't. And even cops oppose that--imagine.

What's in question is whether justice was served in the recent cases. Was it? Personally, I don't know--I wasn't there...though it is clear the prosecution made a mess of the case. Deliberately? That's a strong accusation I'm not prepared to stand on. It is a curious fuck up, however, and I understand the suspicions (and I'm not usually on the conspiracy side) even if I'm not prepared to try to make a case for them.

Is racism in play in these cases? I don't know that either.

At the same time, to deny that racism is very much alive in this country is just to willfully deny reality.




Lucylastic -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/27/2014 7:48:56 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

~FR~

This either/or what-you're-saying baloney is so pointless.

First, it's automatically a straw man, because there isn't anyone so polarized and simplistic as the resulting caricature.

Second, because it's not actually addressing any actually held positions, it's literally pointless -- it's not refuting anything except mental projections.

And Third, pointing out an injustice does not mean something therefore is against everyone of similar circumstances. That's just made up silliness.

Realistically --

No one here supports killing cops. Deal with it.
No one here supports calling for dead cops. Deal with it.
No one here thinks all cops are evil. In fact, most are great.
(fyiw, I have friends and friends of friends who are state troopers)
Everyone here is against cop killing. Everyone gets they have a tough, dangerous job already.

What people ARE against is the incidences of police brutality, especially those ending in death. Those incidences exist. They shouldn't. And even cops oppose that--imagine.

What's in question is whether justice was served in the recent cases. Was it? Personally, I don't know--I wasn't there...though it is clear the prosecution made a mess of the case. Deliberately? That's a strong accusation I'm not prepared to stand on. It is a curious fuck up, however, and I understand the suspicions (and I'm not usually on the conspiracy side) even if I'm not prepared to try to make a case for them.

Is racism in play in these cases? I don't know that either.

At the same time, to deny that racism is very much alive in this country is just to willfully deny reality.



Bests comment of the thread




CreativeDominant -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/27/2014 8:08:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

~FR~

This either/or what-you're-saying baloney is so pointless.

First, it's automatically a straw man, because there isn't anyone so polarized and simplistic as the resulting caricature.

Second, because it's not actually addressing any actually held positions, it's literally pointless -- it's not refuting anything except mental projections.

And Third, pointing out an injustice does not mean something therefore is against everyone of similar circumstances. That's just made up silliness.

Realistically --

No one here supports killing cops. Deal with it.
No one here supports calling for dead cops. Deal with it.
No one here thinks all cops are evil. In fact, most are great.
(fyiw, I have friends and friends of friends who are state troopers)
Everyone here is against cop killing. Everyone gets they have a tough, dangerous job already.

What people ARE against is the incidences of police brutality, especially those ending in death. Those incidences exist. They shouldn't. And even cops oppose that--imagine.

What's in question is whether justice was served in the recent cases. Was it? Personally, I don't know--I wasn't there...though it is clear the prosecution made a mess of the case. Deliberately? That's a strong accusation I'm not prepared to stand on. It is a curious fuck up, however, and I understand the suspicions (and I'm not usually on the conspiracy side) even if I'm not prepared to try to make a case for them.

Is racism in play in these cases? I don't know that either.

At the same time, to deny that racism is very much alive in this country is just to willfully deny reality.



Bests comment of the thread

Of course it is...because it supports your views...skewed to the left.




Musicmystery -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/27/2014 8:10:44 AM)

LOL! If that's "skewed to the left," then your head is permanently turned to the right. See an exorcist.

[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]




Lucylastic -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/27/2014 8:20:33 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

~FR~

This either/or what-you're-saying baloney is so pointless.

First, it's automatically a straw man, because there isn't anyone so polarized and simplistic as the resulting caricature.

Second, because it's not actually addressing any actually held positions, it's literally pointless -- it's not refuting anything except mental projections.

And Third, pointing out an injustice does not mean something therefore is against everyone of similar circumstances. That's just made up silliness.

Realistically --

No one here supports killing cops. Deal with it.
No one here supports calling for dead cops. Deal with it.
No one here thinks all cops are evil. In fact, most are great.
(fyiw, I have friends and friends of friends who are state troopers)
Everyone here is against cop killing. Everyone gets they have a tough, dangerous job already.

What people ARE against is the incidences of police brutality, especially those ending in death. Those incidences exist. They shouldn't. And even cops oppose that--imagine.

What's in question is whether justice was served in the recent cases. Was it? Personally, I don't know--I wasn't there...though it is clear the prosecution made a mess of the case. Deliberately? That's a strong accusation I'm not prepared to stand on. It is a curious fuck up, however, and I understand the suspicions (and I'm not usually on the conspiracy side) even if I'm not prepared to try to make a case for them.

Is racism in play in these cases? I don't know that either.

At the same time, to deny that racism is very much alive in this country is just to willfully deny reality.



Bests comment of the thread

Of course it is...because it supports your views...skewed to the left.


hmmmm read my previous posts, Ive said pretty much the same thing in another post or three, and this part, is the TRUTH, not slanted just FACTS
quote:

No one here supports killing cops. Deal with it.
No one here supports calling for dead cops. Deal with it.
No one here thinks all cops are evil. In fact, most are great.
(fyiw, I have friends and friends of friends who are state troopers)
Everyone here is against cop killing. Everyone gets they have a tough, dangerous job already.

Or yanno prove it wrong
oh but you cant
Reality has a well known liberal bias.
Which one of us here has said ANYTHING close to it?
cmon point it out.




Sanity -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/27/2014 8:27:39 AM)


Goose-stepping leftists agree, hateful, lying, race-baiting preachers whipping crowds into an arson and murdering frenzy isnt a thing, so long as theyre of their own political bent

How shocking

Never could have seen that coming











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