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BamaD -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 6:08:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

And an officer was shot in Florida.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/police-officer-shot-and-killed-in-florida/30340906

And either they got the facts all messed up or there has been another one in NYC this one had one cop killed another seriously wounded and the shooter killed himself




dcnovice -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 6:09:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

And an officer was shot in Florida.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/police-officer-shot-and-killed-in-florida/30340906

The article doesn't identify any information about the killer's motivations.




TheHeretic -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 6:49:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

No it isnt, not by a long way.




Fuck off, Mr "if you disagree with me I'll smugly imply you are a racist and then deny calling you one."




TheHeretic -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 6:51:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

And an officer was shot in Florida.


The article doesn't identify any information about the killer's motivations.


People do shoot at cops for all sorts of reasons




dcnovice -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 6:53:42 PM)

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People do shoot at cops for all sorts of reasons

Doesn't make it any less awful, of course.







kdsub -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 6:55:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

And an officer was shot in Florida.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/police-officer-shot-and-killed-in-florida/30340906


ANOTHER shot in St. Louis

They do not have a motive or have made no arrests yet...we will see.

Butch




kdsub -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 7:03:44 PM)

Speaking of Police shot in St Louis...look at THIS list. Not a good place to work.

Butch




cloudboy -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 8:07:38 PM)

I read about this today. One officer's name was Ramos, and I read about how his 13 year old son couldn't comprehend what happened to his father. Just a senseless, violent act committed by an armed and dangerous man.

The shooter had a history of mental illness and instability --- combining that with guns is just so, so bad.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-nypd-police-shooting-20141221-story.html#page=2




kdsub -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 8:57:25 PM)

Will someone tell me if they have ever heard of a murderer that was NOT CRAZY. Mental illness is not an excuse for murder... All murderers are insane.

I would bet that truly delusional people could not act in the manner attributed to this killer... They are the only ones I would feel mercy to...He planned and carried it out in full control of his facilities. He was mentally ill just to kill but he is still a murderer and deserved no mercy.

Butch




Sanity -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 9:22:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Will someone tell me if they have ever heard of a murderer that was NOT CRAZY. Mental illness is not an excuse for murder... All are insane.

I would bet that truly delusional people could not act in the manner attributed to this killer... They are the only ones I would feel mercy to...He planned and carried it out in full control of his facilities. He is mentally ill just to kill but he is still a murderer and deserved no mercy.

Butch


Here is how this works - if someone committing an illegal act is a Muslim or a person of color, or is liberal, nothing they do can possibly be their fault or have anything to do with his or her religion, or mentor, or community organizers, or anything of the sort.

If such a person is a cop though, or white, Christian, Jewish, or has ever enjoyed a cup of tea, no trial is necessary. Only a literal angry, vicious mob can properly render the necessary justice

And of course, any crime automatically proves criminality all the way to the top of all organizations such a person is alleged or imagined to be affiliated with







ThirdWheelWanted -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/21/2014 11:44:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Altho apparently I must be on his side cos I believe there is huge injustice in america.

That's the standard your side applies, ain't it, Lucy? All the angels on one side, all the devils on the other?


It must be so fantastic to live up there in the Great White North. Where racism doesn't exist and the police are always fair and treat everyone equally. And the people have plenty of time to tell all the lesser peoples of other countries how ignorant they are.




Lucylastic -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/22/2014 3:27:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Altho apparently I must be on his side cos I believe there is huge injustice in america.

That's the standard your side applies, ain't it, Lucy? All the angels on one side, all the devils on the other?


It must be so fantastic to live up there in the Great White North. Where racism doesn't exist and the police are always fair and treat everyone equally. And the people have plenty of time to tell all the lesser peoples of other countries how ignorant they are.

oh for gawds sake, playing the "victim of lucy" card? grow a pair.
Who ever told you that the great white north has no racism or scummy cops or scummy people is pulling your plonker. That you would use such reasoning to ignore the injustice in your country fill your boots....I expect nothing better. poor widdle wictim.

I have certainly never said that, you are just making up stories to soothe your zenophobic soul, but im not close to throwing a pity party to such ballstroking ego bullshit
Blaming me for saying there is injustice in the US and trying to make me the topic is so pathetic, again, blame everyone but yourselves for the clusterfuck that is race/religious relations in your country.

Just keep ignoring it and stick your head up your arses . Youve got your guns, you will be alright, but fuck anyone else who DOESNT Have your white middle class privilege.
Blame the poor, the unemployed the sick for leeching off the middle class, blame the other "colours" for your ignorance, blame religions for killing people but ignore what your own country does to its children, its women, its vulnerable i n the name of christianity or a "christian country.
You sicken me
By the way, what I do with my time is my fucking business, who I support, help and advocate for outside of CM is none of your business, because you lie about what I say, what I mean and who I care about.
So you can calmly just go and bugger a pus filled tiger anus.

Oh in the news this morning, a canadian man was shot at the ambassador bridge in windsor to detroit.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/canadian-shot-by-u-s-border-guards-at-ambassador-bridge-1.2880736

Im completely ok with them shooting him. I travel the border often, altho not that bridge since 2001, you dont fuck around with border guards, in either direction
you start waving a gun about at a border. you deserve everything you get.
But ....they didnt kill him...they could have done, but they didnt.







JstAnotherSub -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/22/2014 3:55:06 AM)

Lucy, I seriously adore you. But...yeah we have fucked up shit here, as does everyone else in one way or the other.

We also have many who help the poor and do not blame them, folks who have handguns who would never use them except to defend family or friends lives, folks who were raised middle class and white who do not think of it as something that makes them above others of any class color or religion, people who live as Christians should and never use it to do wrong, they just quietly go about their lives, helping when they can, people who are poor because of things they cannot control, people who are poor because they are lazy motherfuckers who feel like they are owed something, people who see no color, people who see nothing but color.

I could keep typing, but I am boring my self even.

We have much more good than bad, but the bad does get more playtime on the news. And, no matter how I try to say to myself, well she is right about the things she says, when I read your rants against my country, my hackles go up and I want to defend us because I know so many people who rock and quietly work to try to make positive changes.

So, it is your freedom and right to talk about us in any way you want to, and I believe that you are sincere in your convictions, but really, the rant you had seriously made me a little sick to my stomach. SOMETIMES, it does seem as if Canadians and Brits on these forums care more about our problems than their own, and that may be justified, since we are supposedly some kind of a fucking super power, but remember, for many of us, it aint much but it's home and sometimes we are gonna get pissy at being preached to by folks who do not live here.





ThirdWheelWanted -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/22/2014 4:16:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh for gawds sake, playing the "victim of lucy" card? grow a pair.



Awww, what a whiny, foul mouthed bitch you are when anyone questions you Lucy. But then that is your go to response. Thanks for showing us how much more civilized you are then us poor ignorant 'Mericans.

And I know damn well you have your own murdering, racist cops up there in Canada. But from the way you go on and on about how awful the US is, you'd think that Canada was a utopian paradise of tolerance and respect. Of course we just have to hear you open your rancid mouth and spew out your shit to know how crazy that is, now don't we. I made a sarcastic remark regarding your post. You respond with the above filth. Sure that's a reasonable, measured response.






ThirdWheelWanted -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/22/2014 4:24:40 AM)

@JAS:Yes, exactly. Thank you for summing that up. I don't know what Lucy or Peon or Polite (etc) do when they're not on CS. The only way I know them is from their words here. And more often then not, all I hear from them is how the US does everything wrong and how if only we'd fix our troubles and become more like the other "civilized" countries..... After a while, it gets damn old.




Lucylastic -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/22/2014 4:54:21 AM)

And JAS, I adore you too :) And I get your point. I really do, because I have a huge number of friends a lover and family in the US, black , white, middle and working class and of different religions.

You will notice that I RARELY VERY rarely attack ALL of anything, read back on my posts. I dont blanket anything.
I was posting at TWWs past posts and comments and his/her attacks on the poor the sick, the religon and races, people like TWW, CD, Heretic. Bama, Sanity get carte blanche to blanket everyone NOT on their side. DAILY

I said there was injustice in the US, there is, isnt there? its making matters worse when more people(on here) decide its someone elses fault and refuse to see any solution, but "someone else" must do it, because they arent part of the problem.
If you think I was ranting against all the US population, you are mistaken.
I was posting AT the ignorant ass, NOT a general population. Im well aware there are people making a positive change, Im well aware there are some freaking awesome people who do care and work towards betting life for themselves and others. , I wasnt adressing them I was addressing TWW s attack on me.

This is an americentric board, nobody gives a shit about canadian politics, or british politics, unless they can lie about them constantly.
If you took it personally, please take another look, because I thought I made it QUITE clear that it was a response to the ignorance of the rw idiots on this forum, not the US as a body of people.
I get your hackles are up....so are mine.
Im sorry you felt attacked..I for sure wasnt blaming the people who do give a damn. Im not sorry I attacked TWW. or Sanity, OR the Heretic, or anyone else who thinks I should shut my big yap. just because im not an american.
I certainly as hell am not taking their bullshit lying down.
And to be honest with you I never will, no matter where I come from, where I live OR who I give a shit about.
For upsetting you, someone who has always struck me as having great wads of compassion, humour, and humanity, I am sorry, but im not apologising for using both barrels on TWW and the other idiots who claim this is a one sided problem.

My first comment on this post was
My heart goes out to the victims and the families and the comrades in the police force who have been hit with the actions of this utterly despicable dick.
Its starting....in earnest....and everyone is blaming the other.
spinning this, is making it worse.
god help us if he is an "islamnut"

and the part that someone snipped for brevity(hah) was originally about me being on sharptons side...the whole bit went
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Ive never endorsed sharpton.
Altho apparently I must be on his side cos I believe there is huge injustice in america.
Of course those who would say such, have little knowledge of any reality, including their own



Ive often stated that the UK , Canada are far from perfect, Ive posted more than anyone about murders in Canada, the health care in canada AND the politicians in all three countries, also the conservative view. I disagree with in ALL three countries, Ive mentioned the bullshit racism and treatment against the native Canadians, Ive mentioned the racism in the UK AND in Canada.

Idiots like TWW et al ignore the topic to attack a foreigner...oh but let me take all that without responding.
not happening.
with all that said, Im guessing this isnt going away, but Im not going to respond anymore, I see the furriner haters have started again.
to you JAS< I understand you feeling ranty and upset, to you personally I apologise.
This is a topic worth more than making me bitch of the topic...but it wont stop the issues so many people want to ignore.
At their peril.











Lucylastic -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/22/2014 5:00:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh for gawds sake, playing the "victim of lucy" card? grow a pair.



Awww, what a whiny, foul mouthed bitch you are when anyone questions you Lucy. But then that is your go to response. Thanks for showing us how much more civilized you are then us poor ignorant 'Mericans.

And I know damn well you have your own murdering, racist cops up there in Canada. But from the way you go on and on about how awful the US is, you'd think that Canada was a utopian paradise of tolerance and respect. Of course we just have to hear you open your rancid mouth and spew out your shit to know how crazy that is, now don't we. I made a sarcastic remark regarding your post. You respond with the above filth. Sure that's a reasonable, measured response.




sarcasm isnt your strongest suit. but whinging has improved.
Bitch, why yes I am, foul mouthed, oh what a crime....HAHAHHAHAHHAHAH poor widdle victim
when you only read what fits your narrative, you look like a moron....you do it very well





thishereboi -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/22/2014 5:07:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-brooklyn-sources-article-1.2051941

http://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/

Al Sharpton Leads March in DC as NYC Protesters Chant: "What Do We Want? Dead Cops!"

Celebration on Twitter

Imagine if the Tea Party, a deranged Tea Party member did something of the sort









Better yet imagine starting a thread to discuss the topic without dragging the usual left vs right bullshit into the mix. Then perhaps we can address the problem.




Politesub53 -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/22/2014 5:10:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

No it isnt, not by a long way.




Fuck off, Mr "if you disagree with me I'll smugly imply you are a racist and then deny calling you one."



How you got that from my post Ill never fucking know. As for calling you a racist, I dont need to imply anything, I would just say it as I saw it.





Politesub53 -> RE: "Revenge" Assassination Of Two NYPD Officers (12/22/2014 5:14:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted

@JAS:Yes, exactly. Thank you for summing that up. I don't know what Lucy or Peon or Polite (etc) do when they're not on CS. The only way I know them is from their words here. And more often then not, all I hear from them is how the US does everything wrong and how if only we'd fix our troubles and become more like the other "civilized" countries..... After a while, it gets damn old.


Boo fucking hoo........ Its a debating forum and just like many other right whingers you hate being told you might have a problem.

If you cant take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.




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