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Charles6682 -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/21/2015 12:58:21 PM)

There more I have studied, the more I realize that the Goddess or Feminine Divine has shown Herself in a number od religions. She is as ancient as the humanity is. She isn't some New Age fad at all. Its just now, people are only rediscovering what always was.



PeonForHer -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/21/2015 1:19:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

There more I have studied, the more I realize that the Goddess or Feminine Divine has shown Herself in a number od religions. She is as ancient as the humanity is. She isn't some New Age fad at all. Its just now, people are only rediscovering what always was.


On the other hand, since it's about religion, it's just another load of old bollocks to add to the bollocks that religion currently is anyway, Charles. Arguably.



tweakabelle -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/22/2015 1:03:01 AM)

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The 71-year-old cleric Father John Micheal O’Neal claims he went to heaven and met God, which he describes as a warm and comforting motherly figure.


Was she a nice-looking Sheila, did Father John say? I mean, you know, fanciable?



Dear oh dear Peon Is nothing sacred? Presented with the possibility of elevating your horizons to the eternal and you can't even raise your mind above your waistline ...

Perhaps this is one of the differences between men and women, and why the world needs to listen to women more than it does. How many women do you know who will react to being pointed towards the God of Eternity by asking: "Does he have good buns? Is he any good in bed?"

<enigmatic smile>



Kirata -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/22/2015 2:45:29 AM)


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The 71-year-old cleric Father John Micheal O’Neal claims he went to heaven and met God, which he describes as a warm and comforting motherly figure.

Was she a nice-looking Sheila, did Father John say? I mean, you know, fanciable?

Dear oh dear Peon Is nothing sacred?

Not to a man who is apparently desperate. [:)]

K.




Charles6682 -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/25/2015 4:16:05 PM)

Surprise!

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BenevolentM -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/25/2015 8:38:35 PM)

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One thing that I recently learned is that even within the wall's of Christianity, there is a Feminine Divine which has been suppressed by mainstream Christians thousands of years now.


In Catholicism and Orthodoxy, the Virgin Mary comes awfully close to being a Feminine Divine.


I know that you speak heresy from first hand experience. Whether you will believe me is another matter altogether. Though the Virgin Mary comes awfully close to being a Feminine Divine, she is not Divine in the sense that God is Divine. She is Divine in the sense that she is enveloped by the Divine presence. To be in her presence is to be in the presence of the Divine. The parallax is small, but this does not imply synonymy. She is the new Eve which is even more glorious than to call her a Goddess. She is woman. Though her God has elevated us to a place of honor. She is our link to Christ, she is our umbilical cord to God. She is Our Holy Mother.



BenevolentM -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/25/2015 9:24:40 PM)

To call her a Goddess is to miss and therefore subtly deny an important subtly. If you deny the existence of subtly, you will not see it. If you feel that truth is a thing that is as plain as your nose, you will not see it.



GotSteel -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/26/2015 4:54:25 AM)


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I know that you speak heresy from first hand experience.


Have you been having hallucinations?



Kirata -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/26/2015 10:11:02 AM)


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I know that you speak heresy from first hand experience.

This will not end well.

K.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/26/2015 11:13:02 AM)


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I know that you speak heresy from first hand experience.

This will not end well.

K.




I wish I had a violin, but I'll just settle for popcorn.



Michael



FieryOpal -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/26/2015 7:13:26 PM)

Ben, if I may call you that, of what "heresy" do you refer to? <Although I have the sneaking suspicion I may not want to hear this [X(]>
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Ooooo look, a hooded priest reciting his catechism. Let's take a picture!

K.
I hadn't taken you (BM) for being a proponent or advocate for The Protestant Reformation. Oh, you must mean heresies of your own imaginings and machinations. [sm=meh.gif]

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice
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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

One thing that I recently learned is that even within the wall's of Christianity, there is a Feminine Divine which has been suppressed by mainstream Christians thousands of years now.

In Catholicism and Orthodoxy, the Virgin Mary comes awfully close to being a Feminine Divine.

I know that you speak heresy from first hand experience. Whether you will believe me is another matter altogether. Though the Virgin Mary comes awfully close to being a Feminine Divine, she is not Divine in the sense that God is Divine. She is Divine in the sense that she is enveloped by the Divine presence. To be in her presence is to be in the presence of the Divine. The parallax is small, but this does not imply synonymy. She is the new Eve which is even more glorious than to call her a Goddess. She is woman. Though her God has elevated us to a place of honor. She is our link to Christ, she is our umbilical cord to God. She is Our Holy Mother.

If you were addressing your remarks to dc, none of us knows 1/1000th of what he has endured and continues to overcome on an ongoing basis daily. You don't have a clue as to what his personal relationship is with the Holy Mother, none of us does, and I daresay virtually none of us ever will come close to touching Divinity in all of Their many manifestations.

What I do know is that his indomitable spirit continues to inspire us on these Boards. Can you say the same?



Moderator3 -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/26/2015 7:31:34 PM)

Thank you all for being so nice.

Coming in to post, to criticize or judge the beliefs of other members isn't a posting style that will continue.

That means, be very careful not to do it anymore. [;)]



dcnovice -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/26/2015 7:41:01 PM)


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One thing that I recently learned is that even within the wall's of Christianity, there is a Feminine Divine which has been suppressed by mainstream Christians thousands of years now.


In Catholicism and Orthodoxy, the Virgin Mary comes awfully close to being a Feminine Divine.


I know that you speak heresy from first hand experience. Whether you will believe me is another matter altogether. Though the Virgin Mary comes awfully close to being a Feminine Divine, she is not Divine in the sense that God is Divine. She is Divine in the sense that she is enveloped by the Divine presence. To be in her presence is to be in the presence of the Divine. The parallax is small, but this does not imply synonymy. She is the new Eve which is even more glorious than to call her a Goddess. She is woman. Though her God has elevated us to a place of honor. She is our link to Christ, she is our umbilical cord to God. She is Our Holy Mother.

I used the modifiers awfully close for a reason. [:)]

To clarify, though, I was thinking less about theological formulations than about worshipers' hearts. My observation is that Mary seems to occupy a place that, in other traditions, would belong to a "Feminine Divine."



DaddySatyr -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (2/26/2015 8:39:03 PM)


I think the word "heresy" is an interesting one.

One has to be pretty entrenched in their own beliefs to even use the word, but more importantly, it is usually directed at someone who is baptized in and claims to be a follower of a particular religion.

For example: A Lutheran who questions the perpetual virginity of Mary, mother of Jesus is not a heretic, in the traditional sense. Some other religion that has the perpetual virginity as its dogma may want to throw that word around at others, but it is a false equivalence.

I am what would be called a "Fallen away Catholic" so, things I say may be seen as "heretical" but there's that nagging "claims to be a follower of" part. My belief system has a partial grounding in logic, as I interpret it. If evidence is presented that seems logical to me, I do some of my own research and, if it still stands up, I incorporate it into my belief system.

Because of this, I rarely (if ever) call peoples' beliefs into question. I may attack something they present as "fact", but I am attacking the fact; not their belief.

The dichotomy here is that my beliefs are fluid and, make no mistake about it; they are beliefs, based partially on what 'feels right" to me. My beliefs being fluid, by definition, means that I see no one as a heretic.

When I speak (or type) about religion, you'll see a lot of "If we take the Bible literally ..." and "If it's true that the earth flooded for forty days and nights ...". The key word, of course, is "if"

(I would also say that heresy requires a person to state as fact that which they know is false. Call it "an old altar boy, hedging his bets").

I see the damage done by organized religion, every day, on these very boards; the inability of people to hear what the other side has to say. It comes from indoctrination; it doesn't matter what the actual topic is. It's "heretical", if it's not what's been handed down to us and beaten into us.

Call me a heretic, but as for me and my house, the subject of the "Feminine Divine" is settled "science".



Michael



GotSteel -> RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine (3/1/2015 7:25:50 AM)

He didn't make a claim of belief, he made a claim of knowledge. It appears very much as though he's claiming that the Virgin Mary has appeared to him.



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