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Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/21/2014 11:35:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I personally believe in not just God but also Goddess. I have heard the term "Mother God" used as well. The balance to "Father God". Goddess Worship has been around since the beginning of Humanity. I wrote a post a few year's ago to the effect of "Where is the Goddess in Spirituality". After a few year's, doing a lot of research and asking question's, I am now aware of Goddess Spirituality much better.

The term Feminine Divine also work's here for me as well. It's seems throughout history, the "Feminine Divine" has been suppressed by Patriarchal means over the centuries and still is to a degree in some places on this Earth. Some religions do embrace the Goddess, such as Paganism and Hinduism. Some people are polytheistic, believing in many Gods and/or Goddess's and some people are Monotheistic, believing in one God/Goddess. Either way, I feel the Goddess has been suppressed for far too long, especially here in Western civilization.

One thing that I recently learned is that even within the wall's of Christianity, there is a Feminine Divine which has been suppressed by mainstream Christians thousands of years now. Some people have called Her "Mother God", "Sofia" and "Holy Wisdom" to name a few. Another interesting aspect is that Mary Magdalene may very well be the hidden "Goddess of Christianity" and She may have also been "Dark Skinned". Well, I guess the "Good Old Boys" club didn't like that and no wonder She was reduced to a "Whore" by the Catholic Church, until 1969, when the Catholic Church finally corrected their intentional wrong mistakes. The Gnostic Christian's and the Templar Knights have known secrets to things which are now being revealed to Mainstream society.

The Patriarchal attempts over the Centuries to suppress the Goddess/Feminine Divine have failed. The horrible things that the mainstream Church did to people over the age's with people who didn't agree with them are horrible and a black eye on the Church. There are still some places around the World where the Goddess is suppressed. Women in general are treated horribly in certain place's. Those injustices need to be corrected as well. Over all, time's have changed. With the invention of the internet and the "Information Age" upon us, anyone can now find the fact's for themselves. Trying to burn books and burn history, will not work any more.

I personally still believe in God or the "Masculine Divine" as well. I just choose to embrace the "Feminine Divine" as well. A balance. Some people may say "God" has no gender and that's fine. However, when God is mentioned, most people quickly resort back to "God" as "He","Him". So I just keep it simple. I believe in God and Goddess. No confusing the term Goddess. There are 2 sides to each coin. That is how I view God/Goddess. The Masculine and Feminine Divine on the same coin.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/21/2014 1:09:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe wrapping our heads around the idea of God is something we can only do with metaphors and imaginings. If that one works for you, roll with it.



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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/21/2014 2:19:52 PM   
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I believe wrapping our heads around the idea of God is something we can only do with metaphors and imaginings. If that one works for you, roll with it.


You can't wrap your head around god, that's your very definition of the word.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/21/2014 2:21:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello. That's what he just said.

Drop your knee jerk programming and actually join a real discussion, just this once. See if you really can.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/21/2014 2:37:52 PM   
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You can't wrap your head around god, that's your very definition of the word.



No. That's my definition of the metaphor that works for me, describing an energy we cannot comprehend.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/21/2014 5:28:41 PM   
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No. That's my definition of the metaphor that works for me, describing an energy we cannot comprehend.


Energy is a comprehendible, measurable thing.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/21/2014 6:35:05 PM   
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Energy is a comprehendible, measurable thing.



Whatever you need to tell yourself to get to sleep at night.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 2:00:28 AM   
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Energy is a comprehendible, measurable thing.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to get to sleep at night.

Which we can presume includes telling himself that "comprehendible" is a word.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 5:26:07 AM   
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I personally believe ....


Kick off with those three words and you're fine in my book. ;-)

Me, I have wispy and woolly notions of similar stuff in my head, at times. I'm happy that they're no more and no less.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 1:20:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I always refer to my beliefs and that's how it is for me. I'm certainly never one to try and convince anyone of my beliefs. Each person has a right to believe in how they wish and for those who have no belief at all. I can say this much, I'm certainly not the only person who feels this way. Goddess Spirituality just isn't talked about much in mainstream society but there are many who believe in the Goddess or some form of a "Feminine Higher Power", however one wishes to call Her.
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I personally believe ....


Kick off with those three words and you're fine in my book. ;-)

Me, I have wispy and woolly notions of similar stuff in my head, at times. I'm happy that they're no more and no less.



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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 1:32:05 PM   
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Which we can presume includes telling himself that "comprehendible" is a word.

Well, actually . . .

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comprehendible



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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 1:39:30 PM   
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One thing that I recently learned is that even within the wall's of Christianity, there is a Feminine Divine which has been suppressed by mainstream Christians thousands of years now.

In Catholicism and Orthodoxy, the Virgin Mary comes awfully close to being a Feminine Divine.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 1:45:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, yes, you are correct there. Mother Mary is and has been part of the Feminine Divine with Orthodoxy and especially Catholicism. She is the "Mother of God" as She has been referred to.
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One thing that I recently learned is that even within the wall's of Christianity, there is a Feminine Divine which has been suppressed by mainstream Christians thousands of years now.

In Catholicism and Orthodoxy, the Virgin Mary comes awfully close to being a Feminine Divine.



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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 2:15:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have always felt that my higher power, has no gender.
It is often easier to say GOD, but now and then I say, GODDESS.

Or you can say GODDESS/GOD, whatever floats your boat.




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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 2:25:57 PM   
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One thing that I recently learned is that even within the wall's of Christianity, there is a Feminine Divine which has been suppressed by mainstream Christians thousands of years now.

In Catholicism and Orthodoxy, the Virgin Mary comes awfully close to being a Feminine Divine.


True, but not the sort of goddess that might sit on one's face. Perish the thought ....

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 3:11:30 PM   
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I have always felt that my higher power, has no gender.
It is often easier to say GOD, but now and then I say, GODDESS.

Or you can say GODDESS/GOD, whatever floats your boat.





Flying Spaghetti Monster has a much more eloquent ring to it.



Jus sayin

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/22/2014 3:12:30 PM   
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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/23/2014 3:51:32 AM   
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Which we can presume includes telling himself that "comprehendible" is a word.

Well, actually . . .

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comprehendible

Yeah, but not really...

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/spellcheck/all/?q=comprehendible

No entry. The usage is rare and deprecated. If you search for it (here) you'll be diverted to the spellcheck page above. And a search for "comprehendible" at dictionary.com diverts directly to "comprehensible" (see link below).

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/comprehendible?

"Comprehensible" is the correct form, derived from French compréhensible and Latin comprehensibilis.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/23/2014 4:34:28 AM   
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But you don't want it sitting on your face . . .

ok that made me laugh, thank you!!! LOL


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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 12/23/2014 8:24:11 AM   
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I personally still believe in God or the "Masculine Divine" as well. I just choose to embrace the "Feminine Divine" as well. A balance. Some people may say "God" has no gender and that's fine. However, when God is mentioned, most people quickly resort back to "God" as "He","Him". So I just keep it simple. I believe in God and Goddess. No confusing the term Goddess. There are 2 sides to each coin. That is how I view God/Goddess. The Masculine and Feminine Divine on the same coin.


I'm agnostic, so I don't really know if any of our human-derived notions about a "God" or "Goddess" can even be rationally conceived.

I try to conceive of how many billions of stars exist in our own galaxy - how many possible planets and potential lifeforms on those planets. And that's just our own galaxy... How many other galaxies are there? Not to mention different dimensions, parallel universes, alternate timelines. If I believed that some sort of intelligent being created all of that, then we here on Earth would be nothing more than an insignificant speck of dust in space and time - just a tiny blip in the vastness of the multiverse.

I'd really like to believe that there is some parent-deity or deities out there who love us and look out for us. It occurs to me that much of religion is about worshiping ourselves as much as any possible deity, since religions tend to take the view that humans are created as the "Divine's" crowning achievement, the final product after billions of years of preparation. We might look at a "God" and "Goddess" as being parental figures, and religion may be as much as setting ourselves up as their "children," who might someday believe that they may reach the level of the "Divine" at some point.

But with the universe constantly in motion and things constantly changing/evolving, it's hard for me to accept the view that we humans are the "finished product." We will probably go extinct someday and likely replaced by some species which is far more intelligent and would look back at us like we look back at the dinosaurs.

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