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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 1:29:34 PM   
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11 pages and still no answer as to how healthy eating and exercise will be ensured through close monitoring. *sigh*

As usual.... not reading anything.

It has been stated many times in this thread by several people: the GP's will monitor the progress of their patients and record the results.

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 1:52:08 PM   
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11 pages and still no answer as to how healthy eating and exercise will be ensured through close monitoring. *sigh*

As usual.... not reading anything.

It has been stated many times in this thread by several people: the GP's will monitor the progress of their patients and record the results.


How is that "ensuring"?

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 1:55:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		well, it is ensured as ours are ensured, monitor, record, continuous feedback and counselling. They have the info and the meaning, but just like in the rest of the world, horses can be led to water, but not forced to drink.

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 2:38:20 PM   
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it still amazes me to see 300-400 pound humans riding the grocery store battery carts due to their obesity and nothing else.

How do you know their medical histories? You can tell if total strangers have, say, congestive heart failure, neuropathy, gout, or something else that doesn't manifest externally?

The thing is we don't know but what I do know is, Britain is now the capital of battery carts in Europe and although you are not supposed to drive around in one of those carts unless you are registered disabled, there is a huge percentage flaunting that law. Five years ago we had 70,000 scooters on our pavements; now we have a whopping 300,000 and the manufacturers have had to modify and re-invent scooters that can now take up to 550lbs in body weight.
Whilst we don't know peoples medical history and pointing out that someone is in a battery cart because they are fat would not only be cruel and incentive but naive and ridiculous. Studies in the UK however, have shown this massive rise in battery trolley use is not for the registered disabled but for the growing numbers in obesity.
If the laws are suddenly tightened and people are stopped and asked to show their disability certificate or display one on their trolley, there will be an awful lot of people who suddenly find themselves walking round the shops instead of riding round them.


Or, just make obesity a disability...
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    The court said that if obesity could hinder "full and effective participation" at work then it could count as a disability.
    The ruling is binding across the EU.
    Judges said that obesity in itself was not a disability - but if a person had a long-term impairment because of their obesity, then they would be protected by disability legislation.


Being obese, then, isn't a disability, in and of itself, but if it's causing an impairment, it is a disability. Would diabetes be considered a "long-term impairment?"



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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 2:41:55 PM   
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11 pages and still no answer as to how healthy eating and exercise will be ensured through close monitoring. *sigh*


The most common answer was that the use of the word "ensure" was incorrect. "Close monitoring" is likely to be done by the GP's scheduling appointments at a greater frequency than normal with those patients.




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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 2:44:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		in its sense, ensure is absolutely correct.

one of the senses of ensure is:
make certain of obtaining or providing (something).



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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 4:36:23 PM   
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awww, go ahead, you know you want to

And then perhaps you can explain what that had to with my post.


It just explains you are two faced. Even someone as simple as you should have been able to work that out.

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 4:39:08 PM   
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11 pages and still no answer as to how healthy eating and exercise will be ensured through close monitoring. *sigh*


Not so much a case of "no answer" but more a case of gross ignorance on your part. Many of us have pointed out the actualities but as always you prefer to keep trolling.

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 4:43:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
11 pages and still no answer as to how healthy eating and exercise will be ensured through close monitoring. *sigh*


The most common answer was that the use of the word "ensure" was incorrect. "Close monitoring" is likely to be done by the GP's scheduling appointments at a greater frequency than normal with those patients.





Bullshit DS........ You just dont get anything that doesnt include the word "Insure" No wonder i call some of you Americans stupid. Thankfully there are more that get what is meant by "ensure2 in this context than not. You and Aylee are firmly in the "not" group, or as its otherwise none, "The head up your arse club"

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 4:47:24 PM   
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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 5:23:00 PM   
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11 pages and still no answer as to how healthy eating and exercise will be ensured through close monitoring. *sigh*


Lots of people answered that you just either didn't like them or didn't see them.

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 5:30:02 PM   
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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 5:38:27 PM   
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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 5:41:22 PM   
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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 5:42:05 PM   
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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 12/31/2014 7:52:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
11 pages and still no answer as to how healthy eating and exercise will be ensured through close monitoring. *sigh*


The most common answer was that the use of the word "ensure" was incorrect. "Close monitoring" is likely to be done by the GP's scheduling appointments at a greater frequency than normal with those patients.





So they are going to nag them to lose weight.

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 1/1/2015 5:23:44 AM   
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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 1/1/2015 5:31:57 AM   
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Can you imagine sitting round a dinner table with Aylee?!?!


Sure. I don't find it suspicious at all that her hosting a dinner party with an intriguing menu, which always has an interesting pâté, comes in the wake of the sudden disappearance of a poster in P&R.

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 1/1/2015 5:43:44 AM   
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Can you imagine sitting round a dinner table with Aylee?!?!


Frankly no. I may have masochistic tendencies but I will never be that masochistic....at least I hope not.

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RE: Doctors told to report patients who put on weight - 1/1/2015 5:48:59 AM   
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Can you imagine sitting round a dinner table with Aylee?!?!



Sure can, sounds like fun.

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