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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 3:34:22 PM   
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Thanks for playing. We have some nice consolation prizes. See Vanna on your way out.

You kept talking about unspecified laws that would prevent something like this and would prevent her from having a gun in her purse. Apparently that was just smoke and mirrors.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 3:36:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		So you keep saying. Then I tell you what they are. Then you say the same thing again.

Have you had a head injury?

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 3:59:26 PM   
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So you keep saying. Then I tell you what they are. Then you say the same thing again.

Have you had a head injury?

You have given no law that would have kept her from carrying the gun in her purse. I'd ask if you had a head injury but clearly there is nothing there to injure.
Neither fixing flaws in guns nor any amount of training would have done that.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:00:53 PM   
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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:03:22 PM   
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1) I've said it repeatedly. Are you really this much of an asshat?

2) Nothing prevents everything. Mom's dead. She ain't coming back. But now that we know the problem, future events can be prevented. Not all, but some.


Are done being a dick now? What the fuck have you been arguing for pages if there's no problem?

Never mind. Just...go. Glad we're done.


You're the asshat. You clearly stated you wanted additional safeties for all guns in one of your posts and implied all sorts of things in others. I couldn't figure out exactly what you were talking about either so I asked questions too. Now I see you've watered down your position to *fix the design flaw on the gun in question*. All us gun nuts can pretty much agree on that.

Now you specifically state we should "investigate training effectiveness and re-evaluate." That would pretty much fall under *enhancing educational and proficiency requirements for concealed carry permits. * I can go along with that. Kirata brought that one up on other threads though I can't speak for others.

What the fuck have you going on about all of it for ?
Ya feel better now ?

I should have finished with: Are done being a dick now? What the fuck have you been arguing for pages if there's no problem?

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:05:34 PM   
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And here I thought you were pro-carry. Didn't realize you were against her carrying the gun.

Nothing in what I said even suggested that, it was you who said she shouldn't have had a gun in her purse and that we needed to have a law which would have prevented it.
Once again you have been caught in saying something you can't or won't back up.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:06:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		AND the primary concern was addressing the design flaw ... which you conveniently omitted.

Look, y'all just want to scream "I won!" not solve anything. So you keep playing childish games with reality.

Enough. Tell yourself you won. Buy a trophy on Amazon. Celebrate.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:07:08 PM   
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And here I thought you were pro-carry. Didn't realize you were against her carrying the gun.

Nothing in what I said even suggested that, it was you who said she shouldn't have had a gun in her purse and that we needed to have a law which would have prevented it.
Once again you have been caught in saying something you can't or won't back up.

Yup. Busted. You're so smart!

Thank you for showing me the path to wisdom.

I'll be forever grateful.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:09:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

1) I've said it repeatedly. Are you really this much of an asshat?

2) Nothing prevents everything. Mom's dead. She ain't coming back. But now that we know the problem, future events can be prevented. Not all, but some.


Are done being a dick now? What the fuck have you been arguing for pages if there's no problem?

Never mind. Just...go. Glad we're done.


You're the asshat. You clearly stated you wanted additional safeties for all guns in one of your posts and implied all sorts of things in others. I couldn't figure out exactly what you were talking about either so I asked questions too. Now I see you've watered down your position to *fix the design flaw on the gun in question*. All us gun nuts can pretty much agree on that.

Now you specifically state we should "investigate training effectiveness and re-evaluate." That would pretty much fall under *enhancing educational and proficiency requirements for concealed carry permits. * I can go along with that. Kirata brought that one up on other threads though I can't speak for others.

What the fuck have you going on about all of it for ?
Ya feel better now ?

I should have finished with: Are done being a dick now? What the fuck have you been arguing for pages if there's no problem?

Now I remember why I had him on hide for so long, he talks a lot and never says anything.

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:12:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And here I thought you were pro-carry. Didn't realize you were against her carrying the gun.

Nothing in what I said even suggested that, it was you who said she shouldn't have had a gun in her purse and that we needed to have a law which would have prevented it.
Once again you have been caught in saying something you can't or won't back up.

Yup. Busted. You're so smart!

Thank you for showing me the path to wisdom.

I'll be forever grateful.

So you can't say how you would have kept her from having a gun in her purse. Remember that was why you said reckless endangerment laws were not good enough.

Will wait for next inane smug comment.

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Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:14:45 PM   
lovmuffin


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Status: offline 		What is it about "*fix the design flaw on the gun in question*. All us gun nuts can pretty much agree on that" that you don't understand.

Now yer being deliberately obtuse.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:18:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

1) I've said it repeatedly. Are you really this much of an asshat?

2) Nothing prevents everything. Mom's dead. She ain't coming back. But now that we know the problem, future events can be prevented. Not all, but some.


Are done being a dick now? What the fuck have you been arguing for pages if there's no problem?

Never mind. Just...go. Glad we're done.


You're the asshat. You clearly stated you wanted additional safeties for all guns in one of your posts and implied all sorts of things in others. I couldn't figure out exactly what you were talking about either so I asked questions too. Now I see you've watered down your position to *fix the design flaw on the gun in question*. All us gun nuts can pretty much agree on that.

Now you specifically state we should "investigate training effectiveness and re-evaluate." That would pretty much fall under *enhancing educational and proficiency requirements for concealed carry permits. * I can go along with that. Kirata brought that one up on other threads though I can't speak for others.

What the fuck have you going on about all of it for ?
Ya feel better now ?

I should have finished with: Are done being a dick now? What the fuck have you been arguing for pages if there's no problem?

Now I remember why I had him on hide for so long, he talks a lot and never says anything.


I wouldn't hide any one. Sometimes there's the entertainment value.

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"Long hair, short hair—what's the difference once the head's blowed off." - Farmer Yassir

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:23:54 PM   
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Musicmystery
Enough. Tell yourself you won. Buy a trophy on Amazon. Celebrate.


I think you ran away with all the awards on this thread..........including the Darwin Award.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 4:37:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

1) I've said it repeatedly. Are you really this much of an asshat?

2) Nothing prevents everything. Mom's dead. She ain't coming back. But now that we know the problem, future events can be prevented. Not all, but some.


Are done being a dick now? What the fuck have you been arguing for pages if there's no problem?

Never mind. Just...go. Glad we're done.


You're the asshat. You clearly stated you wanted additional safeties for all guns in one of your posts and implied all sorts of things in others. I couldn't figure out exactly what you were talking about either so I asked questions too. Now I see you've watered down your position to *fix the design flaw on the gun in question*. All us gun nuts can pretty much agree on that.

Now you specifically state we should "investigate training effectiveness and re-evaluate." That would pretty much fall under *enhancing educational and proficiency requirements for concealed carry permits. * I can go along with that. Kirata brought that one up on other threads though I can't speak for others.

What the fuck have you going on about all of it for ?
Ya feel better now ?

I should have finished with: Are done being a dick now? What the fuck have you been arguing for pages if there's no problem?

Now I remember why I had him on hide for so long, he talks a lot and never says anything.


I wouldn't hide any one. Sometimes there's the entertainment value.

Good point.

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 6:34:54 PM   
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What is it about "*fix the design flaw on the gun in question*. All us gun nuts can pretty much agree on that" that you don't understand.

Now yer being deliberately obtuse.

What's your problem? That's exactly the point I've been making. In so many words. For pages.

Bama can't seem to grasp that. Everything reads to him as "We want to ban carry" no matter what it says.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 6:36:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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And here I thought you were pro-carry. Didn't realize you were against her carrying the gun.

Nothing in what I said even suggested that, it was you who said she shouldn't have had a gun in her purse and that we needed to have a law which would have prevented it.
Once again you have been caught in saying something you can't or won't back up.

Yup. Busted. You're so smart!

Thank you for showing me the path to wisdom.

I'll be forever grateful.

So you can't say how you would have kept her from having a gun in her purse. Remember that was why you said reckless endangerment laws were not good enough.

Will wait for next inane smug comment.

I asked YOU that -- you never answered.

Whatever. See what you want.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 6:39:42 PM   
BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And here I thought you were pro-carry. Didn't realize you were against her carrying the gun.

Nothing in what I said even suggested that, it was you who said she shouldn't have had a gun in her purse and that we needed to have a law which would have prevented it.
Once again you have been caught in saying something you can't or won't back up.

Yup. Busted. You're so smart!

Thank you for showing me the path to wisdom.

I'll be forever grateful.

So you can't say how you would have kept her from having a gun in her purse. Remember that was why you said reckless endangerment laws were not good enough.

Will wait for next inane smug comment.

I asked YOU that -- you never answered.

Whatever. See what you want.

It wouldn't what solution did you have in mind.
Remember her carrying in the purse was completely legal, it didn't become endangerment till she left it unattended. So there was no reason for them to know she had a gun in her purse.

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 6:41:01 PM   
BamaD


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What is it about "*fix the design flaw on the gun in question*. All us gun nuts can pretty much agree on that" that you don't understand.

Now yer being deliberately obtuse.

What's your problem? That's exactly the point I've been making. In so many words. For pages.

Bama can't seem to grasp that. Everything reads to him as "We want to ban carry" no matter what it says.

I never said you want to ban carry, I asked you if you did. But I guess you can't see the difference.
I have pointed this out several times but all you can hear is what you want to hear.

< Message edited by BamaD -- 1/21/2015 6:42:01 PM >

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 6:45:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And here I thought you were pro-carry. Didn't realize you were against her carrying the gun.

Nothing in what I said even suggested that, it was you who said she shouldn't have had a gun in her purse and that we needed to have a law which would have prevented it.
Once again you have been caught in saying something you can't or won't back up.

Yup. Busted. You're so smart!

Thank you for showing me the path to wisdom.

I'll be forever grateful.

So you can't say how you would have kept her from having a gun in her purse. Remember that was why you said reckless endangerment laws were not good enough.

Will wait for next inane smug comment.

I asked YOU that -- you never answered.

Whatever. See what you want.

It wouldn't what solution did you have in mind.
Remember her carrying in the purse was completely legal, it didn't become endangerment till she left it unattended. So there was no reason for them to know she had a gun in her purse.



This is just astounding.

What part of (a) I wouldn't tackle it from the purse angle, since it's already a legal problem and not enforceable short of installing metal detectors and searching purses, (b) fix the design flaw, (c) take an assessment of training programs--is giving you comprehension problems?

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RE: Another "successful" carry story - 1/21/2015 6:52:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And here I thought you were pro-carry. Didn't realize you were against her carrying the gun.

Nothing in what I said even suggested that, it was you who said she shouldn't have had a gun in her purse and that we needed to have a law which would have prevented it.
Once again you have been caught in saying something you can't or won't back up.

Yup. Busted. You're so smart!

Thank you for showing me the path to wisdom.

I'll be forever grateful.

So you can't say how you would have kept her from having a gun in her purse. Remember that was why you said reckless endangerment laws were not good enough.

Will wait for next inane smug comment.

I asked YOU that -- you never answered.

Whatever. See what you want.

It wouldn't what solution did you have in mind.
Remember her carrying in the purse was completely legal, it didn't become endangerment till she left it unattended. So there was no reason for them to know she had a gun in her purse.



This is just astounding.

What part of (a) I wouldn't tackle it from the purse angle, since it's already a legal problem and not enforceable short of installing metal detectors and searching purses, (b) fix the design flaw, (c) take an assessment of training programs--is giving you comprehension problems?

I have no comprehension problems.
Having the gun in the purse is not a legal problem. This is a gross misconception on your part.
You have a serious comprehension problem. Carrying the firearm in her purse was legal. Reckless endangerment only comes into play when she left it unattended. If you weren't wanting to tackle the purse angle why did you ask me how they would know if she had one in her purse?

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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