BamaD
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Doesn't help that the NRA is infamous for fighting gun safety laws.
The NRA is infamous for promoting firearms safety. That's quite the opposite of what you just declared. But if you can show me where the NRA fights gun safety laws then I'll drop my membership.
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So where are the knowledgeable firearms folk leading the charge to address the design flaw? Or any other gun safety charge?
What other gun safety issue aside from the design flaw on this particular S&W are you referring to ? I don't know exactly why S&W hasn't or isn't addressing the problem either but I'll jump up on my high horse next to you, draw my saber and lead the charge. 
BTW, thanks for the lesson on quotations. 
I just checked the manual. It says that if you stage the trigger you may get an unintended discharge. They clearly think that it is an operator malfunction like climbing over a fence with you finger on the trigger.
It doesn't happen unless you are doing something unsafe anyway, and the fix is don't stage.
Staging the trigger would be taking up the slack before reaching the follow through point where the firing pin is released striking the primer, right ? I'm not familiar with exactly how the S&W works but I know how my Glock works. If I staged the trigger but changed my mind and released the pressure only to have the weapon discharge, I wouldn't like that, nor would I consider it safe, even if there was a warning in the manual. The Glock is not, though is similar to, a double action.
Anyway, knowing this about the S&W would make me not want to buy it.
They describe it as pulling it back till just before the firing pin goes off and then releasing it. I don't like it either and would really like to see it fixed. If they don't fix it people won't buy it and the stigma will spread across the rest of the brand.
However I consider staging to be a unsafe practice in any case. Kind of glad I got a Taurus instead, although I wouldn't have gotten this model in any case. Smith is still recovering from being owned by the British. Both of the Smiths I currently own are revolvers. I prefer them to Auto loaders.
Of course one is over 130 years old in .38 smith and wesson (not to be confused with the .38 short colt-.357 family. A true .38. It also has a safety flaw if you are unfamiliar with it. In the hammer down position the firing pin rests on the primer of the round in the cylinder. Unlike most double actions it has a partial, you might say half cock position which move the firing pin back. Discovered the problem accidentally, happened to notice it from the side with the light behind it. At that point I realized the reason for the half cock position. Of course it was about 90 when I got it so the documentation and knowledge of the problem was long lost. Doubt there ever was documentation that long ago.
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