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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 5:27:44 AM   
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something everyone misses when the discussion is primarily centered on extreme acts of violence is the notion that islam and western civilization are incompatible with each other.

Europe is already well on it's way to becoming West Saudi Arabia, and the USA is next.


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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 5:36:03 AM   
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As we talk, five people have just been taken hostage at a kosher grocery in Eastern Paris


Its okay though, because its just a tiny minority


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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 5:37:48 AM   
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Where was the outrage of Christians in the mid nineties when Westboro Baptist was openly advocating violence towards the GLBT?


This is as far as i got with your post because it is outrageously incorrect... If you had your eyes and ears open you would know the American outrage... what crap



She would also know it lasted well past the nineties and the only reason it has dropped now is because the asshat died and his family doesn't seem to have the same motivation. But I did better than you. I made it all the way through the bullshit including the part where she claimed "When Matthew Sheppard was killed radical Christians advocated that kind of violence. " and then started whining about the crusades. And I have to say while I think hate mail is wrong, if this is the kind of bullshit she spews in public, I am really not surprised.

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 5:39:57 AM   
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Fallwell whether you like him or not was a "leader". Robertson was only a hair less full of vitriol and to many was considered a leader.

There is a difference between not supporting a group, and actually doing something to stop them. So what you wouldn't open into a business agreement with them. Plenty of mosques actively refuse to do business with their more radical counterparts. Especially muslims in the western world.

Active campaigns to shut down radical Christian hitlist websites would have been totally awesome in the nineties. I would have been so much safer, and so thankful.

Yet, that didn't happen. Hate crime bills didn't get passed.

And my point in all this is not that Christians are bad. I think Christianity is at heart a beautiful religion full of good intentions. I actively support individuals who seek fellowship in Christian communities, and use their faith as a core tool and part of their recovery.

I also feel the same about Islam.

There are bad ideologues in both religions, and at times complacency in both. Social change always has been and always will be slow.

You have a really strange way of making a point then.

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 5:46:06 AM   
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It has been reported that the 18 year old who surrendered had already been convicted of terrorism in France, why was he out walking around?


Can someone tell him he is talking nonsense, since he has me on hide (allegedly)

The kid was at school all day yesterday and handed himself in to local police when he saw his name on social media.



First tell us which part is bullshit. That the kid surrendered or that he has a past criminal history?

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 6:10:58 AM   
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As we talk, five people have just been taken hostage at a kosher grocery in Eastern Paris


Its okay though, because its just a tiny minority



Why would you even make light of this? Or even think it's OK to do so?

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 6:16:47 AM   
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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 6:20:00 AM   
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something everyone misses when the discussion is primarily centered on extreme acts of violence is the notion that islam and western civilization are incompatible with each other.

Europe is already well on it's way to becoming West Saudi Arabia, and the USA is next.


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What nonsense.

1/5 of the world is Islamic. And it's not crammed into the Middle East. Has been that way for centuries.


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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 6:24:58 AM   
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Why would you even make light of this? Or even think it's OK to do so?


Sarcasm and "making light" are two entirely different things

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 6:25:34 AM   
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As we talk, five people have just been taken hostage at a kosher grocery in Eastern Paris


Its okay though, because its just a tiny minority



Why would you even make light of this? Or even think it's OK to do so?


Because the "In" is silent and invisible on this site.

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 6:28:01 AM   
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something everyone misses when the discussion is primarily centered on extreme acts of violence is the notion that islam and western civilization are incompatible with each other.

Europe is already well on it's way to becoming West Saudi Arabia, and the USA is next.


Eurabia

What nonsense.

1/5 of the world is Islamic. And it's not crammed into the Middle East. Has been that way for centuries.




Like most "liberals" you live to spew ignorance

A United Nations' survey showed that between 1989 and 1998, Europe's Muslim population grew by more than 100 percent,

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 6:52:34 AM   
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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 6:55:06 AM   
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Like most "liberals" you live to spew ignorance

A United Nations' survey showed that between 1989 and 1998, Europe's Muslim population grew by more than 100 percent,


100% of what?


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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 6:59:45 AM   
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28.26 % of the world is Muslim http://www.muslimpopulation.com/World/





Wow

According to your source there are no Muslims in the Middle East

(Thats sarcasm directed at Professor Know-It-All btw)

(I dont expect many of you to get it)

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 7:03:44 AM   
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28.26 % of the world is Muslim http://www.muslimpopulation.com/World/





Wow

According to your source there are no Muslims in the Middle East

(Thats sarcasm directed at Professor Know-It-All btw)

(I dont expect many of you to get it)

dumbarse cant follow a link
to what "Asia" covers
http://www.muslimpopulation.com/asia/
and for a
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edited to add an actual pic, not a link


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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 7:06:19 AM   
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Like most "liberals" you live to spew ignorance

A United Nations' survey showed that between 1989 and 1998, Europe's Muslim population grew by more than 100 percent,


100% of what?


Please don't throw facts at, or ask tough questions of Sanity - the poor thing will only get confused and befuddled.

He seems to be under the impression that the fact that "1/5 of the world is Islamic" is disproved by the info he has provided, which according to him, shows that the number of European Muslims doubled during 1989-98. Please don't ask me to explain how Sanity's info disproves the claim but his apparent belief that it does tells us a lot about his state of mind.

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 7:16:50 AM   
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tweakabelle, I couldn't help it! Its like when someone says, "don't touch the red button". I'm a true sufferer of negative persuasion

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 7:25:13 AM   
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Like most "liberals" you live to spew ignorance

A United Nations' survey showed that between 1989 and 1998, Europe's Muslim population grew by more than 100 percent,


100% of what?



I provided a link as a shortcut to including the full context. Either click on the link, or continue in your willful ignorance. Its up to you...



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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 7:26:57 AM   
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Like most "liberals" you live to spew ignorance

A United Nations' survey showed that between 1989 and 1998, Europe's Muslim population grew by more than 100 percent,


100% of what?


Please don't throw facts at, or ask tough questions of Sanity - the poor thing will only get confused and befuddled.

He seems to be under the impression that the fact that "1/5 of the world is Islamic" is disproved by the info he has provided, which according to him, shows that the number of European Muslims doubled during 1989-98. Please don't ask me to explain how Sanity's info disproves the claim but his apparent belief that it does tells us a lot about his state of mind.


I havent discussed or disputed the 1/5th figure

The confusion and befuddlement is all yours

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RE: 12 dead in Paris - 1/9/2015 7:32:25 AM   
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Like most "liberals" you live to spew ignorance

A United Nations' survey showed that between 1989 and 1998, Europe's Muslim population grew by more than 100 percent,


100% of what?



I provided a link as a shortcut to including the full context. Either click on the link, or continue in your willful ignorance. Its up to you...



And the bit you missed out from that same link -
...due mainly to the effects of immigration from Muslim countries. Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance have an unsourced claim of 2.9 percent per year.

1 chinaman in town and you get 2 more.
That's a whopping 200% rise in the Chinese population!!!

And for the UK: It has been estimated that during 2001 - 2011, about 100,000 people converted to Islam in the United Kingdom, but 75 percent of these converts quickly left Islam, during this period.

Unless you use some real numbers, percentages are very misleading.


From Lucy's website: The Percentage of Muslim population in Europe is 7.6
Hardly a huge number.

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