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What has unfolded over the last few days in France is horrific and regardless of what FD's Muslim friends say, moderate Muslims will be just as horrified by this act as the rest of us.
Yes, they are equally horrified.
But, they still say that death is justified - regardless of who actually carried it out.
Who is "they" and who are they saying this to?
Local Muslims - to me.
Unfortunately, I didn't film it for your benefit.
It happened whether you like to believe it or not.
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There's the difference between many Islamics (and not all, before you jump the gun), and other groups of people.
And you are saying we should disregard Muslim views because some moderates disagree with their own kind?
I posit they are saying that to the media to shift blame. But under their breath they are glad that Islam, their prophet, and their Quran have been avenged.
Or so you like to believe. The reality is, you have little to no evidence of this...its as simple as, that is what you believe.
Yes, I believe it because I was told it by Muslims local to me.
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And don't say it isn't so because I've had that said to me first hand from local people that I know.
And how do you know that the Muslims you know aren't fundamentalists? I know a lot more Muslims than you do and none of them share this view. Even if they felt it they would never speak it; certainly not to a none Muslim.
And you know for certain that you know more Muslims than I do?
That would be your unsupported PoV.
And, of course, you are dead sure that they would never speak to a non-Muslim about such matters.
You don't know my neighbours here, so that comment is unsubstantiated.
I have lived amongst them in several places, including where I am now.
I know many of them very well. My kids went to school with their kids.
And recently (as of late yesterday afternoon) spent more than an hour chatting with them specifically about the French incident.
That is where my info is coming from.
That is where my Muslim comments are coming from.
Not the media. Not websites. Real life living people.
If you don't like what was relayed to me by my local community, that would be your problem, not mine.
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