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cloudboy -> Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 8:41:09 AM)
Molly Shattuck teen sex abuse case heads to court for hearing Wednesday A hearing in the case of Molly Shattuck, the former Ravens cheerleader accused of sexually assaulting a 15-year-old boy, is scheduled for Wednesday in Georgetown, Del. Shattuck, 47, faces nine criminal charges, including third-degree rape, for allegedly performing oral sex on the boy in a Bethany Beach rental property last summer while her three children were sleeping. She has pleaded not guilty. Shattuck invited the boy to join her and her children and their friends at a rented beach house in Bethany Beach over Labor Day weekend, according to the documents. She gave the boy wine and beer, then pulled him away from the other teenagers by saying he needed to go to bed, the documents allege. She then brought the boy to her bedroom, stripped down to her underwear and performed oral sex on him, according to the documents. She invited him to have sexual intercourse, documents say, but he decided to leave. The indictment charged Shattuck with two counts of third-degree rape What do you think of this wet-dream story for local news reporters?

darkwanderer3305 -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 9:00:15 AM)
No matter how "Penthouse Forums" this story sounds - raping a child is raping a child... It is just as wrong for this woman to do what she did as it would be for a 47 year old man to get a little girl drunk and perform oral sex on her. Rape is rape! Wrong is wrong! This woman should be locked up with all of the other rapists who are destroying young lives/minds!!!

ExiledTyrant -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 9:10:47 AM)
~FR Ya know, this is exactly why the press should only have access to information post conviction. Everyone is assuming that she is guilty and not considering that this fella could've spun a story to appear as Uber-stud-muffin-McLoven and it got waaaaayyyy out of hand. If it turns out she is guilty, send her up the river... but if she is innocent, she is already up the river and in the court of public opinion she will always be a pedophile.

LiveSpark -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 9:19:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant ~FR Ya know, this is exactly why the press should only have access to information post conviction. Everyone is assuming that she is guilty and not considering that this fella could've spun a story to appear as Uber-stud-muffin-McLoven and it got waaaaayyyy out of hand. If it turns out she is guilty, send her up the river... but if she is innocent, she is already up the river and in the court of public opinion she will always be a pedophile. I agree absolutely (wow what a surprise) and there are quite a few stories you post applies to. IMO all this story serves to do is get people inflamed when all the facts aren't available. And before people jump me YES I would - and have - said the same if the defendant were female and the victim female.

ExiledTyrant -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 9:24:17 AM)
Most legal systems in the world have a way of dealing with people that pose a threat to society, it's called jail. Sensationalism can be achieved post conviction, perhaps more thoroughly so, rather than pre-conviction. There was a Doc in the midwest that was accused of molesting his daughter... cuffed, stuffed, booked, and later we learn that it was his son spinning a story because he didn't get the new xbox her wanted and dad needed to suffer. He had to leave the state and I cannot imagine him every working as a doc again because that shit will stick to him for the rest of his life. He can point out that it was a false accusation, but people prefer to demonize others rather than understand them.

Musicmystery -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 10:57:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darkwanderer3305 No matter how "Penthouse Forums" this story sounds - raping a child is raping a child... It is just as wrong for this woman to do what she did as it would be for a 47 year old man to get a little girl drunk and perform oral sex on her. Rape is rape! Wrong is wrong! This woman should be locked up with all of the other rapists who are destroying young lives/minds!!! How is his life and mind destroyed? Hell, at 15, this would have made my year.

cloudboy -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 11:24:02 AM)
Yes, it is hard to see how the boy is a victim of ABUSE when the perpetrator, a former NFL cheerleader, was making out with him in a car and then some time later giving him oral sex in the bedroom of a beach house. The 15 year old declined intercourse and then freely left the room.

MissToYouRedux -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 3:18:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Yes, it is hard to see how the boy is a victim of ABUSE when the perpetrator, a former NFL cheerleader, was making out with him in a car and then some time later giving him oral sex in the bedroom of a beach house. The 15 year old declined intercourse and then freely left the room. Of course everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but if the question is do the alleged actions rise to abuse, the sex of the underage person is irrelevant, the attractiveness or lack thereof of the middle-aged participant is irrelevant, "consent" isn't a defense with underage sex, and would one seriously try to say that oral sex isn't sex? So yes, if the activity took place as represented, it is abuse. And then there's the giving alcohol to minors, probably also part of the "wet dream" aspect, and also illegal. [8\|]

Musicmystery -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 3:22:22 PM)
The poor guy.

LiveSpark -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 3:24:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissToYouRedux quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Yes, it is hard to see how the boy is a victim of ABUSE when the perpetrator, a former NFL cheerleader, was making out with him in a car and then some time later giving him oral sex in the bedroom of a beach house. The 15 year old declined intercourse and then freely left the room. Of course everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but if the question is do the alleged actions rise to abuse, the sex of the underage person is irrelevant, the attractiveness or lack thereof of the middle-aged participant is irrelevant, "consent" isn't a defense with underage sex, and would one seriously try to say that oral sex isn't sex? So yes, if the activity took place as represented, it is abuse. And then there's the giving alcohol to minors, probably also part of the "wet dream" aspect, and also illegal. [8\|] Exactly. Regardless of whether he enjoyed it or not in the eyes of the law he's an underage boy and therefore what she is alleged to have done is illegal.

outlier -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 3:41:14 PM)
This is not that tricky, no matter what anybody's 15 year old wet dreams would be. Just rephrase it in a gender neutral way to see it. If an adult, gives alcohol to a minor then separates the minor from the group, then has oral sex and attempts intercourse with the minor, that is rape. Since they provided the alcohol and separated the minor from the group it was premeditated When one person sexually uses another who is incapable of giving consent, that is rape. It diminishes the humanity of us all to laugh and giggle about it. I am not saying it happened in this case but I am saying that gender is not an excuse. And should not be an issue.

PeonForHer -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 3:43:49 PM)
FR Some thought provoking reactions here. In particular: if it's not something to worry about re a woman and an underage boy, why should it be anything to worry about between a man and an underage girl?

Musicmystery -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 3:49:13 PM)
No one is saying it's not a crime, nor that it shouldn't be. At the same time, the claim that "his life and mind were destroyed" is just dramatic bullshit. And I'll add that, while I'm not endorsing it, at 15, I'd have loved it.

PeonForHer -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 3:55:49 PM)
I can't remember if I'd have loved it at age 15. Sure, I fantasised about it - but, then, I fantasised about being a soldier and fighting wars, too.

Musicmystery -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 4:04:40 PM)
I'd have chickened out on the intercourse, just like this kid, I'm sure. But I'd have been spellbound by the rest.

bounty44 -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 4:07:44 PM)
it's interesting (or conversationally stimulating) to consider that throughout most of recorded history, age of consent was 12 or 13. Sixteen, seventeen, or eighteen are relatively recent conventions.

PeonForHer -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 4:10:50 PM)
I might not have chickened out on the bonk and it could, just possibly, have made for the most memorable 90 seconds of my childhood. [;)] But ... god, did I get so infatuated and so easily back then. That would have been the part that would have given me the grief, for sure.

LiveSpark -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 4:11:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 it's interesting (or conversationally stimulating) to consider that throughout most of recorded history, age of consent was 12 or 13. Sixteen, seventeen, or eighteen are relatively recent conventions. People also used to die at a much younger age. Maybe that has something to do with it.

cloudboy -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 4:30:53 PM)
What happened is the boy told his parents, and that led to a shit storm and charges for the woman. Somewhat like MM, I see this through sexist eyes and not a technical, legal prizm. I don't really think a woman abuses a boy with kisses, blow jobs, and invitations for intercourse. But, I do think a man abuses a girl when the roles are reversed, and I think man abuses a boy. (Don't ask me if a Woman could abuse a girl, that makes my head hurt, but I've never read/heard of such a thing.) Like MM, I'm trying to see the hardship and damages here. Legalities aside -- how has he been abused?

littleladybug -> RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? (1/8/2015 4:33:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy I don't really think a woman abuses a boy with kisses, blow jobs, and invitations for intercourse. But, I do think a man abuses a girl when the roles are reversed, and I think man abuses a boy. (Don't ask me if a Woman could abuse a girl, that makes my head hurt, but I've never read/heard of such a thing.) Why exactly would it be abuse if the genders were reversed, and not in this case?

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