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Politesub53 -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:23:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Mods??? We need a new fora for Sanity and his definition of rational discussion please?

PS Sanity Where do you stand on catholicism and the bible? And anglican church on the bible?
Im talking the bible that includes the old and new testament?
serious question and yes it does relate to the topic.




He only reads the Sanityised version Lucy. [8D]




Sanity -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:23:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


No. Al-Sisi the Egyptian President.

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"I am referring here to the religious clerics. … It's inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma (Islamic world) to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!

"That thinking — I am not saying 'religion' but 'thinking' — that corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the centuries, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. It's antagonizing the entire world! ... All this that I am telling you, you cannot feel it if you remain trapped within this mindset. You need to step outside of yourselves to be able to observe it and reflect on it from a more enlightened perspective.

"I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move … because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost — and it is being lost by our own hands."


He called for a religious revolution. And he is holding Muslims responsible for not calling out these horrific acts. And for the clerics encouraging them.

But around here as long as they are only killing and terrorizing Christians, Jews, and fire-worshipers, then that is okay. It is a peaceful religion.


It is so rare that people make thoughtful, non-trollish contributions to these threads Aylee

Thank you, that is great to see and great that you take the time to post it

I can only hope that there is more of that kind of thinking to come, and that it turns into substantive action




Musicmystery -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:28:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Except the ones persecuting the French Jews, of course.

I mean, there IS a reason that Jews are fleeing France and all of Europe.

Fleeing? France has the third largest Jewish population, after the US and Israel.

Additionally, according to a 2005 poll made by the Pew Research Center, there is no evidence of any specific antisemitism in France, which, according to this poll, appears to be one of the least antisemitic countries in Europe,[58] though France has the world's third largest Jewish population.[1] France is the country that has the most favourable views of Jews in Europe (82%), next to the Netherlands, and the third country with the least unfavourable views (16%) next to the UK and the Netherlands.

Between 2000 and 2009, 13,315 French Jews moved to Israel, or made aliyah, an increase compared to the previous decade (1990–1999 : 10,443) that was in the continuity of a similar increase since the 1970s.[64] A peak was reached during this period, in 2005 (2005: 2,951 Olim) but a significant proportion (between 20 and 30%) eventually came back to France.

But that's out of 600,000 in the French Jewish community.


Ahh that is so cute.

In 2013 about 3,500 Jews left France.

In 2014 about 7,000 Jews left France.

They are estimating another 10k or this year will leave.

Cute that you stopped the years in review when the exodus started.

Cute or not, little girl, it doesn't change the points above.


Have you sent a telegram to the Prime Minister of France telling him that he is all wrong about the Jewish exodus from France and the dangers it poses. I am sure that he would find that re-assuring.

I'm not sure 2% counts as an "exodus."

Perhaps explain to the remaining 600,000 Jews that they're supposed to be running.

Or explain to the former expats who returned to France.




bounty44 -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:28:32 PM)


Maybe if you stopped cherry picking passages from the quran to paint all muslims as evil, they would stop doing the same with the bible. Now it could be that they would continue but it's worth a shot. And in the mean time maybe this will help you out. http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/01/12/paris-attack-charlie-hebdo-islamophobia/21632853/
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when what is being shared/quoted is evident in multiple places, and is the contemporary norm, its not "cherry picking."

while im here---the constant use of "phobia" by liberals in reference to things conservatives disagree with, or reject, is an attempt to make it look as if those disagreements and rejections are based in irrational fear, like true phobias, and therefore should be eliminated. also those rejections, as the article in your link suggest, have nothing to do with hatred.




Musicmystery -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:29:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


No. Al-Sisi the Egyptian President.

quote:

"I am referring here to the religious clerics. … It's inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma (Islamic world) to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!

"That thinking — I am not saying 'religion' but 'thinking' — that corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the centuries, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. It's antagonizing the entire world! ... All this that I am telling you, you cannot feel it if you remain trapped within this mindset. You need to step outside of yourselves to be able to observe it and reflect on it from a more enlightened perspective.

"I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move … because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost — and it is being lost by our own hands."


He called for a religious revolution. And he is holding Muslims responsible for not calling out these horrific acts. And for the clerics encouraging them.

But around here as long as they are only killing and terrorizing Christians, Jews, and fire-worshipers, then that is okay. It is a peaceful religion.


Again, as absurd as ridiculing Christianity as non-peaceful.

There are peaceful religious folk, there are radical religious folk, and there are militant religious folk.

Including your religion.




Politesub53 -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:35:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Except the ones persecuting the French Jews, of course. They are what. . a percent or so of the population and receive 40% of "hate" crimes done by Muslims? (My numbers should be close if not exact.)

I mean, there IS a reason that Jews are fleeing France and all of Europe.


Another bullshit claim Aylee. There may be Jewish people fleeing France and Germany (Hardly your claim about "All of Europe")

Much of it is due to the advance of the far right. It is getting harder to take you seriously with the constant bollocks that you spout. For example, many of the Jews you are on about leaving France have settled in the UK. As a heads up, that was still in Europe last time I looked.

In your next post you ask why I am addressing you and not the topic, well it so happens the topic I actually addressed was your post.




Politesub53 -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:38:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Only in your tiny brain bruv.


Let me get this straight. . .

As long as it is MUSLIMS selling women into slavery, stoning them, not allowing them civil rights, honor killing them, and so forth. . . it is hunky-dory in your world.

Ya know this does not surprise me. You have repeatedly shown that you do NOT consider women as equal humans.

After all, women should not be allowed to defend themselves. . .

Thousands of girls being raped and threatened is okay. . .

And let's see. .v. you are likely okay with the latest pedophilia stuff coming out of the UK.


I can see why you sympathize with Boko Haram and ISIS.


You are not just making snide comments now but outright lying. I have never ever made one post supporting terrorists of any colour, race or Religion. I have never made any posts supporting pedophilia, rape or any other attacks on women and children.

I suggest you either stick to the truth or shut the fuck up with your nasty bullshit assertions.




Sanity -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:39:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

when what is being shared/quoted is evident in multiple places, and is the contemporary norm, its not "cherry picking."

while im here---the constant use of "phobia" by liberals in reference to things conservatives disagree with, or reject, is an attempt to make it look as if those disagreements and rejections are based in irrational fear, like true phobias, and therefore should be eliminated. also those rejections, as the article in your link suggest, have nothing to do with hatred.


Certain posters must train themselves somehow, to totally ignore headlines, historical facts, and manufacture their alternate reality

They must have to really work hard to be as intellectually backwards and ignorant in their thinking as they are




Politesub53 -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:47:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Only in your tiny brain bruv.


Let me get this straight. . .

As long as it is MUSLIMS selling women into slavery, stoning them, not allowing them civil rights, honor killing them, and so forth. . . it is hunky-dory in your world.

Ya know this does not surprise me. You have repeatedly shown that you do NOT consider women as equal humans.

After all, women should not be allowed to defend themselves. . .

Thousands of girls being raped and threatened is okay. . .

And let's see. .v. you are likely okay with the latest pedophilia stuff coming out of the UK.


I can see why you sympathize with Boko Haram and ISIS.

No, YOU have laid that at his feet. ONLY YOU are resonsible for your idiotic assumptions


He defended child rapists.


No, He absolutely did NOT not once.
YOU made an assumption that proved to be wrong, in more ways than one, and this isnt the first time you have made that claim,
he made an attempt to explain the word of grooming from the report to TheHeretic
then the shit hit the fan
He responded to you in post http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4726516
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Dont put words in my mouth. I have never blamed anybody other than the perpertrators. You stupid remarks show you "Still" havent read the report.
I did say the girls were looking for love, some even claimed they loved the victim, that doesnt mean I think that makes it okay and saying it does only makes you look like a silly.



http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4726767
The report section with the expression grooming in it, that several people swore blind wasnt there....

please note that the mod mentioned in post http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4727013

We have few rules in the Feisty sections, but I am currently seeing a need for one or two more. It has been a rare occurrence when I have found someone insinuating that someone was a ‘criminal’ or someone that encouraged, took part or enabled ‘criminals’ and ‘criminal activity’, but when I have, it has been removed from the forum. Now, creating a guideline for this could get tricky because many will ‘interpret’ anything we come up with from a personal standpoint that could get complicated or shall I say, nitpicky.

So, for the moment and especially on this thread, if you are tempted to accuse someone that is not personally involved in the thread ‘news’ or ‘situation’, of taking part, being a party to, allowing, encouraging or involved because of where they reside or any other 'factoid', you will face moderation. It is as simple as that. Complicate it and that would be on you, not moderators or staff, to interpret as you do or to explain further by way of arguing ‘points’.

If in any manner I believe you are insinuating that someone uninvolved in this ‘news’ is a party to or encouraging it, that is what staff will be working from.

Just don’t do it.

I may have to post this on every page until everyone gets it, but I am serious about this. Choose your words any way you must, to assure you aren’t insinuating that someone is a party to this in any manner.

Thank you for your compliance as we move forward.


And here you are doing it again.
why?



Thank you Lucy.

Aylee....... Take note that if you make up obnoxious shit like this again, it WILL get reported. You can count on it.




Musicmystery -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:50:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44


while im here---the constant use of "phobia" by liberals in reference to things conservatives disagree with, or reject, is an attempt to make it look as if those disagreements and rejections are based in irrational fear, like true phobias, and therefore should be eliminated. also those rejections, as the article in your link suggest, have nothing to do with hatred.

What "constant use"?

You mean xenophobia? That's one.




Politesub53 -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 12:59:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: bounty44


while im here---the constant use of "phobia" by liberals in reference to things conservatives disagree with, or reject, is an attempt to make it look as if those disagreements and rejections are based in irrational fear, like true phobias, and therefore should be eliminated. also those rejections, as the article in your link suggest, have nothing to do with hatred.

What "constant use"?

You mean xenophobia? That's one.


I am entitled to use the word islamopbia when some of the posters on the right continually tar all Muslims with the same brush.

Once they accept the notion that most right minded people have, the notion that not all Muslims are terrorists, I can sto[p using the word Islamophobia. It reall is that simple Bounty.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 1:14:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Anyone fell like pulling up Leviticus 24:16 ?
See what the Bible decrees in the event of blasphemy ?


Now another troll thinks that the thread needs an emergency derail onto Judaism





Are you so fucking ignorant that you don't know that Sharia Law is based in the Biblical book of Leviticus?




Sanity -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 1:18:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Are you so fucking ignorant that you don't know that Sharia Law is based in the Biblical book of Leviticus?


I alluded to that here, dippy

Grandma was slow, but she was old

Whats your excuse




Musicmystery -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 1:21:26 PM)

That just makes your error willful.

[8|]




Hillwilliam -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 1:22:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Are you so fucking ignorant that you don't know that Sharia Law is based in the Biblical book of Leviticus?


I alluded to that here, dippy

Grandma was slow, but she was old

Whats your excuse

I work for a living and don't have time to slog through all your bullshit unlike people who spout such Socialist bullshit as "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" and apparently wait for their check from Uncle sugar because you're here 24/7.





Sanity -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 1:25:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Are you so fucking ignorant that you don't know that Sharia Law is based in the Biblical book of Leviticus?


I alluded to that here, dippy

Grandma was slow, but she was old

Whats your excuse

I work for a living and don't have time to slog through all your bullshit unlike people who spout such Socialist bullshit as "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" and apparently wait for their check from Uncle sugar because you're here 24/7.




Thank you for admitting that you post out of ignorance

Not that we needed such an admission to know that




Hillwilliam -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 1:30:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Are you so fucking ignorant that you don't know that Sharia Law is based in the Biblical book of Leviticus?


I alluded to that here, dippy

Grandma was slow, but she was old

Whats your excuse

I work for a living and don't have time to slog through all your bullshit unlike people who spout such Socialist bullshit as "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" and apparently wait for their check from Uncle sugar because you're here 24/7.




Thank you for admitting that you post out of ignorance

Not that we needed such an admission to know that

No ignorance to it.

I have referred to you as a Socialist and offered proof in your own posts which were right out of Mao's little red book and another poster, I recall, called you a liberal because of your posts.

You're just too fucking stupid to realize that this FOX pablum that you regurgitate isn't Conservative.

By the way, are you still crapping your pants because there are wolves in Idaho again? [sm=lol.gif]





Sanity -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 1:33:45 PM)


Midol is the perfect thing for your issues

(Do you have anything on topic to add)




Hillwilliam -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 1:53:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Midol is the perfect thing for your issues

(Do you have anything on topic to add)

Translation.

"I'm outclassed to I'll try to deflect"[sm=rofl.gif]


What I have to add will be in a new topic.




Moderator3 -> RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy (1/16/2015 1:53:58 PM)

Well, it looks like I get to be mean mod3 again. I will first lock the thread and then clean up.




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