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RE: The Vanillarisation of Kink? - 1/26/2015 12:49:43 AM   
epiphiny43


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Status: offline 		Seems there are references to considerable BDSM in the Hellfire Club during the residence of Ben Franklin in London and Paris before and during the American Revolution. Art of sexual bondage and impact play considerably predates that. It's doubtful anything new has been thought up since the Greeks and their more ancient teachers.

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RE: The Vanillarisation of Kink? - 1/26/2015 12:59:29 AM   
twitchelvi


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Status: offline 		I saw the topic and after looking thought I should throw 2 cents in there. Is kink being vanillarised? That would depend on the definition you use for kink or vanilla. I think that generally what is considered vanilla would be most anything "mainstream" and kink anything "out of the ordinary".

Depending on who you are talking with some people will tell you that people who watch porn are kinky or perverted, oral sex is kinky or perverted, etc., etc. So the phrase "vanillarisation of kink" would just mean that a lot of acts most viewed as "kinky" at one time are now becoming acceptable to mainstream society. Not really good or bad, but I guess you can find a bit of positive in a couple of things there. First would be that people wouldn't be labeling or looking down on others for act that many of us already consider normal. Second, if kinky is becoming normal, than boundaries will be stretched more, allowing many to feel comfortable exploring further.

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RE: The Vanillarisation of Kink? - 1/26/2015 9:51:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'd recommend two books - A Defense of Masochism by Anita Phillips and Safe, Sane and Consensual by Langdridge and Baker

It also goes without saying that there are a great many European s&m classics such as de Sade, the Story of O, Venus in Furs, the Virtuoso and the Pearl, but I'm sure you are already familiar with many of these.

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RE: The Vanillarisation of Kink? - 1/28/2015 1:25:21 PM   
ResidentSadist


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Status: offline 		I read the reviews for those books and A Defense of Masochism looks like an interesting read . . . but the reviews mentioned nothing about the social aspect in Euro culture. Great book reference for something I don't have in my collection though and I thank you.


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I'd recommend two books - A Defense of Masochism by Anita Phillips and Safe, Sane and Consensual by Langdridge and Baker

It also goes without saying that there are a great many European s&m classics such as de Sade, the Story of O, Venus in Furs, the Virtuoso and the Pearl, but I'm sure you are already familiar with many of these.



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