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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

Lol, I only post childish remarks because they're the only thing people with thick skulls seem to comprehend, complex words often get the small minded angry and frustrated, didn't want that to happen

And I'm glad you pointed out the one attack which resulted in one man dead which made international news, and yet your infallible memory seems to forget the hundreds of mass shootings your own country has each year which don't make the news because they're so common, reporting on them seems rather redundant. You people are so blind to what's happening around you that you grasp at straws to make yourselves seem oh so important and superior. Like the dude in captain america said "Arrogance isn't an inherently american trait, but you people do it better than anyone."

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And I'm glad you pointed out the one attack which resulted in one man dead which made international news, and yet your infallible memory seems to forget the hundreds of mass shootings your own country has each year which don't make the news because they're so common, reporting on them seems rather redundant.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Critics said they think this is one step closer to turning Kansas into something more like the wild west.


And far be it from them to notice that effect has been the opposite.
PS the wild west wasn't even the wild west as they are referring to it.
To many movies.

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ORIGINAL: Staleek

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And I'm glad you pointed out the one attack which resulted in one man dead which made international news, and yet your infallible memory seems to forget the hundreds of mass shootings your own country has each year which don't make the news because they're so common, reporting on them seems rather redundant.

The USA has between three and five mass shootings per year. The thing about mass shootings is that they are dramatic and horrifying, so can be used on 24 hour news networks to drum up a good old drama and rake in the ratings. Mass shootings aren't really the issue, it's the more mundane tens of thousands of people killed and injured by guns not involved in mass shootings that needs to be urgently addressed.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Critics said they think this is one step closer to turning Kansas into something more like the wild west.


And far be it from them to notice that effect has been the opposite.
PS the wild west wasn't even the wild west as they are referring to it.
To many movies.

It was less than a year ago that I left Kansas. I realize that it is "fly-over country" and therefor unimportant, but it was not lawless. They have roads, cell service, electricity, schools, hospitals, and so on. In fact, every county has a college.

It does have a lot of small towns.

By and large I would say that I never felt unsafe.

I also spent many years traveling A LOT. By and large I never felt unsafe.

It really had nothing to do with more or less laws, but the fact that by and large people are decent.

Now I am in the Pacific North West. Ya know what, by and large I have not felt unsafe. There are a lot of small towns, in fact I line on the outskirts of one, but they have electricity, cell service, schools, and so forth as well.

So I am unsure where this idea that the US is so scary comes from, cause ya know, it really is not.

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And I'm glad you pointed out the one attack which resulted in one man dead which made international news, and yet your infallible memory seems to forget the hundreds of mass shootings your own country has each year which don't make the news because they're so common, reporting on them seems rather redundant.

The USA has between three and five mass shootings per year. The thing about mass shootings is that they are dramatic and horrifying, so can be used on 24 hour news networks to drum up a good old drama and rake in the ratings. Mass shootings aren't really the issue, it's the more mundane tens of thousands of people killed and injured by guns not involved in mass shootings that needs to be urgently addressed.

In the last year of statistics there were 13,000 firearms murders, to many to be sure but far short of your claim. There are less than 1000 accidents, again to many but far less than the press would have you believe. The rest, a majority, are suicides, and if someone really wants to kill themselves they can jump out of a window, which would make the Brady bunch happier.

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So I am unsure where this idea that the US is so scary comes from, cause ya know, it really is not.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

"hundreds of mass shootings we have each year?"

what???

Even an anti gun nut like Bloomberg doesn't make a stupid claim like that.
Cut him some slack though, he isn't old enough to know better.

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ORIGINAL: Staleek

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And I'm glad you pointed out the one attack which resulted in one man dead which made international news, and yet your infallible memory seems to forget the hundreds of mass shootings your own country has each year which don't make the news because they're so common, reporting on them seems rather redundant.

The USA has between three and five mass shootings per year. The thing about mass shootings is that they are dramatic and horrifying, so can be used on 24 hour news networks to drum up a good old drama and rake in the ratings. Mass shootings aren't really the issue, it's the more mundane tens of thousands of people killed and injured by guns not involved in mass shootings that needs to be urgently addressed.

In the last year of statistics there were 13,000 firearms murders, to many to be sure but far short of your claim. There are less than 1000 accidents, again to many but far less than the press would have you believe. The rest, a majority, are suicides, and if someone really wants to kill themselves they can jump out of a window, which would make the Brady bunch happier.

For a start if you removed the "right" of people to own deadly firearms the suicide rate almost certainly would fall. 30,000 citizens a year lost to guns with many thousands more injured isn't something to ignore. I am not actually advocating any form of gun control, just an acknowledgement that this is an issue. I am not even advocating doing anything about it, perhaps the deaths and injuries from gun violence are worth it for the right to own these weapons? Just be intellectually honest about it.

Secondly, this is madness. The USA in general and Fox News and the Republicans in particular have been shitting their pants over Ebola for the past 8 months. In over a year this epidemic has killed a total of 8641 people, almost all of them in Africa (only 1 in the USA). And yet this epidemic has been used as an excuse to put people under house arrest, quarantine people, ban travel from countries, and point fingers at Barack Obama for some reason. Yet over three times more people a year die, American citizens on American soil, through guns, yet any suggestion of bringing in extra laws to deal with it are met with derision and hostility.

Why?

This is woefully inconsistent and irrational behaviour. The gun debate is very obviously not about saving human life. The fact is that gun ownership has gone from being a political discussion about the safety of people in society into a tribal conflict for right-wing opinion makers to claim victimization about because "FREEDOM!"

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And I'm glad you pointed out the one attack which resulted in one man dead which made international news, and yet your infallible memory seems to forget the hundreds of mass shootings your own country has each year which don't make the news because they're so common, reporting on them seems rather redundant.

The USA has between three and five mass shootings per year. The thing about mass shootings is that they are dramatic and horrifying, so can be used on 24 hour news networks to drum up a good old drama and rake in the ratings. Mass shootings aren't really the issue, it's the more mundane tens of thousands of people killed and injured by guns not involved in mass shootings that needs to be urgently addressed.

In the last year of statistics there were 13,000 firearms murders, to many to be sure but far short of your claim. There are less than 1000 accidents, again to many but far less than the press would have you believe. The rest, a majority, are suicides, and if someone really wants to kill themselves they can jump out of a window, which would make the Brady bunch happier.

For a start if you removed the "right" of people to own deadly firearms the suicide rate almost certainly would fall. 30,000 citizens a year lost to guns with many thousands more injured isn't something to ignore. I am not actually advocating any form of gun control, just an acknowledgement that this is an issue. I am not even advocating doing anything about it, perhaps the deaths and injuries from gun violence are worth it for the right to own these weapons? Just be intellectually honest about it.

Secondly, this is madness. The USA in general and Fox News and the Republicans in particular have been shitting their pants over Ebola for the past 8 months. In over a year this epidemic has killed a total of 8641 people, almost all of them in Africa (only 1 in the USA). And yet this epidemic has been used as an excuse to put people under house arrest, quarantine people, ban travel from countries, and point fingers at Barack Obama for some reason. Yet over three times more people a year die, American citizens on American soil, through guns, yet any suggestion of bringing in extra laws to deal with it are met with derision and hostility.

Why?

This is woefully inconsistent and irrational behaviour. The gun debate is very obviously not about saving human life. The fact is that gun ownership has gone from being a political discussion about the safety of people in society into a tribal conflict for right-wing opinion makers to claim victimization about because "FREEDOM!"

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Did you honestly just say that people commit suicide because of guns? Holy shit.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

A Our murder rate is dropping faster than anyone elses.
B Right "oh I don't have a gun so I guess I didn't really want to kill myself". Japan has a much higher suicide rate than we do without gun.
C Again that's right, an ebola epidemic could kill millions, which is what people were concerned about, but don't worry about that when we can take someones rights away from them.

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So I am unsure where this idea that the US is so scary comes from, cause ya know, it really is not.

I think it might be because, to the rest of the world, Americans look as though they enjoy killing each other, Aylee.

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ORIGINAL: Staleek

You've cited Japan as a rebuttal, which is a very different culture to the West and suicide is thought of differently there (traditions of Seppuku, Kamikaze, etc). That's hardly a rebuttal.

And you've cited other Western countries as your example, but the United States has a very different culture in which firearms are thought of differently. If this is how you're going to play, get a pretty assistant and a rabbit.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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So I am unsure where this idea that the US is so scary comes from, cause ya know, it really is not.

I think it might be because, to the rest of the world, Americans look as though they enjoy killing each other, Aylee.

They get their education from Hollywood

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Tell me...which of the following best describes the U.S.?

an·ar·chy
\ˈa-nər-kē, -ˌnär-\
noun
: a situation of confusion and wild behavior in which the people in a country, group, organization, etc., are not controlled by rules or laws
Full Definition
1 a :absence of government
b :a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority
c :a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
2 a :absence or denial of any authority or established order
b :absence of order :disorder <not manicured plots but a wild anarchy of nature — Israel Shenker>
http://i.word.com/idictionary/anarchy

Reallllly curious as to what your answer is.