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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/11/2015 10:25:36 AM   
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You should change your name to Mod Meany


You aren't the first to suggest it. What's really scary is that it kind of fits me and I'm okay with that. Yikes!


Yikes !!! I'm intrigued, ya want my phone number ?

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/11/2015 12:19:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		So,anyway....I thought the guy was funny and made good points




Is that better Mod 3 ?

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/11/2015 4:34:11 PM   
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So,anyway....I thought the guy was funny and made good points




Is that better Mod 3 ?


Mike! you're alive! Someone said that.... oh never mind, I guess that someone won't be around to question or quiz for a while

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/11/2015 4:39:23 PM   
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So,anyway....I thought the guy was funny and made good points




Is that better Mod 3 ?


Mike! you're alive! Someone said that.... oh never mind, I guess that someone won't be around to question or quiz for a while


You cant read very well can you?

Just want to know are you mentally disabled, or just criminally stupid.

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/11/2015 4:53:24 PM   
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So,anyway....I thought the guy was funny and made good points




Is that better Mod 3 ?


Mike! you're alive! Someone said that.... oh never mind, I guess that someone won't be around to question or quiz for a while


You cant read very well can you?

Just want to know are you mentally disabled, or just criminally stupid.



Probably a little of both


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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/11/2015 6:36:07 PM   
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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/11/2015 6:37:21 PM   
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We take after you

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/11/2015 6:37:42 PM   
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So,anyway....I thought the guy was funny and made good points




Is that better Mod 3 ?


Mike! you're alive! Someone said that.... oh never mind, I guess that someone won't be around to question or quiz for a while

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Water off a ducks ass.
They have no mind,so I pay them no mind

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 4:44:40 AM   
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So,anyway....I thought the guy was funny and made good points


They are good points when the gun folks on here don't have any decent rebuttals. Not even one...

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 4:54:18 AM   
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You beg for it

Then cry foul when you get it

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 6:50:46 AM   
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You beg for it

Then cry foul when you get it

This is too fucking funny......Mister "they're making it about me again" telling someone else that they beg for it.
Asshole,what I beg for you can't give me......and I damm sure don't want.
The fucking irony of it all

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 10:00:35 AM   
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So,anyway....I thought the guy was funny and made good points


They are good points when the gun folks on here don't have any decent rebuttals. Not even one...



I guess you don't read much of anything others write and just keep throwing out your walls of nonsensical text. I believe Igor addressed many of the points your comic made and I addressed a couple. Once again, it only takes an element of truth to make a joke. He could have just as easily made jokes about the idiotic notion that the police are somehow part of the militia. Why don't ya send us another wall of text on that one.

You even make things up, desperately trying to make a point like 'no rifled barrels around at the time of the Revolution'. Give it a rest.


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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 10:06:40 AM   
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So,anyway....I thought the guy was funny and made good points


They are good points when the gun folks on here don't have any decent rebuttals. Not even one...

And as I said yo you earlier, he makes no point different from the ones you make so why go to trouble of rebutting his points? Igor did so and you say nothing. Your points...and the "comedian's"... get refuted and you keep coming back.

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 10:09:38 AM   
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So,anyway....I thought the guy was funny and made good points


They are good points when the gun folks on here don't have any decent rebuttals. Not even one...



I guess you don't read much of anything others write and just keep throwing out your walls of nonsensical text. I believe Igor addressed many of the points your comic made and I addressed a couple. Once again, it only takes an element of truth to make a joke. He could have just as easily made jokes about the idiotic notion that the police are somehow part of the militia. Why don't ya send us another wall of text on that one.

You even make things up, desperately trying to make a point like 'no rifled barrels around at the time of the Revolution'. Give it a rest.


Only a person who knows nothing about firearms would claim "no rifled barrels around the time of the Revolution". The Kentucky long rifle was well established, English skirmishers carried rifles and an English officer named Ferguson (killed at Kings Mountain) had invented a repeating rifle.

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 10:29:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		rifled barrels were first invented in the 1500s in germany.

Kentucky longrifles were not rifled, they obtained their accuracy from the length of the barrel.

Rifled barrels didnt come into use in the US until the 1840s.

The Cookson and Kalthoff repeaters were invented around the late 1600s.

The Belton flintlock repeater was offered the continental congress but never taken up.

And the first repeater in the US was most likely the Henry lever. Unless of course we count revolvers. Then it would probably be the LeMat. (still civil war abouts).


repeaters are not riflings.

Only a person who knows nothing about firearms would say what you did.



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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 12:58:48 PM   
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rifled barrels were first invented in the 1500s in germany.

Kentucky longrifles were not rifled, they obtained their accuracy from the length of the barrel.

Rifled barrels didnt come into use in the US until the 1840s.

The Cookson and Kalthoff repeaters were invented around the late 1600s.

The Belton flintlock repeater was offered the continental congress but never taken up.

And the first repeater in the US was most likely the Henry lever. Unless of course we count revolvers. Then it would probably be the LeMat. (still civil war abouts).


repeaters are not riflings.

Only a person who knows nothing about firearms would say what you did.




Wow, I used to trust your knowledge when it came to guns but now, with supposedly 7 safeties on a 1911 and now this. The long barrel was for adding muzzle velocity and accuracy was enhanced with the rifling (common knowledge). They were produced by German and Swiss immigrant gunsmiths in Pennsylvania from 1730 - 1840. The rifles themselves were instermental in winning key battles during the revolution including picking off the British by the Minutemen as they marched in formation. They caused the British to give wider latitude to American troops who may have been armed with these rifles. Washington even dressed up some of his regulars in buckskins to fool them at times for just that reason.

http://www.tngenweb.org/campbell/hist-bogan/KentuckyLongRifle.html



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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 1:10:43 PM   
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And the first repeater in the US was most likely the Henry lever. Unless of course we count revolvers. Then it would probably be the LeMat. (still civil war abouts).


Actually, if you count revolvers it would be the Colt Paterson. The Lemat was a newfangled .44 caliber thing with a 20 gauge barrel produced for and used exclusively by the Confederates. Jeb Stuart had one.

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 1:14:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, I never trusted your knowledge. There are seven safeties on a 1911.

And far more accuracy came from the tight fitting lightweight ball and patch than the crude rifling. There were 1400 long rifles out of the what ? Some 50K troops? They were much slower loading, and the guerrilla tactics were more effective than the large massed infantry.

They were ok in the right kind of couple of battles but they did not a great deal to win the war.



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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 1:22:54 PM   
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Wow, I never trusted your knowledge. There are seven safeties on a 1911.




Yeah well, you can call a dog a cow if ya want but it's still a dog.

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RE: Good Points on Firearms - 2/12/2015 1:26:37 PM   
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My how the worm turns....lol

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