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FW you obviously don't understand.
Despite how important their guns are Americans simply can not be bothered to submit to any intrusive examinations.....no matter that they are obviously needed(see death rate by firearms in USA) they are an infringement on the rights that some of our forefathers fought to defend .
That will not be tolerated,even if that means barricading themselves in their forts...er houses and fighting to the last breath.[8|]

You really don't get the concept of a right do you?

Add that to the fact that he completely ignored the information I provided in an earlier post about deaths due to distracted driving...by drunk driving. Of course, those are caused by cars, cell phones, and alcohol and we all know that cell phone owners and car owners are responsible owners.

Which of those other "things" were being operated as designed ?
People die,that is not the issue,the issue is the manner of death....and the possible path to reducing the frequency
All the rest that you brought to the table amount to red herrings and actually deserved to be ignored...which is what I will be doing from here on out.
I didn't want you to feel ignored.....so this once I responded.But bring more bullshit to the discussion and I will simply ignore it
I can't be bothered responding to every jackass proclamation made here,there are far too many idiots and I have far too little time [:)]
Next someone will show up and point out that children are drowning in pools....we've been there before,I'm not joining any ban the pools
campaign any time soon...[8|]

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I do,you don't get the concept that you are only a PART of a society....and that the other PARTS of that society have rights too.
The first and foremost right is the one to LIFE....which is exceedingly infringed upon by gun owners/holders who indiscriminately rob others of that first and foremost righ.


By the way anyone else notice that the idiot in Missoula (sp?) got himself a seventy year prison sentence...of course the German exchange student is still dead.
This was another "responsible" "law abiding" citizen at work,wasn't it ?


Still waiting for that example of my true goal of confiscation or whatever you imagine my thought to be [8|]
How long must I wait ?

You also only speak for a portion of society, a shortsighted portion at that.
Even if I only speak for a portion of society it is one that wants to protect RIGHTS, not turn them into PRIVILEGES.
Right to life, that is the point to the right of self defense, and you want to take that away.
And since you are trying to skip to another subject no he wasn't responsible, but you can't ignore the fact that if the German hadn't been in someone else's garage he wouldn't be dead either, but I suppose going through other peoples garage in the middle of the night is responsible.

My portion is growing skippy....and as someone pointed out earlier if you folks keep obstructing the change that is coming the end result just might wind up more draconian than it needs to be.
Here is the thing,as things stand people are going to keep dying from the indiscriminate use of firearms...and in appalling numbers (care to argue that certainty with me )sooner or later a tipping point is reached.
At that point good men, of strong conscious and principal,will be forced to act .
The tide is against your viewpoint ,hell you might as well be advocating for segregation or not allowing woman to vote...society moves on pal,and nothing you do will stop it.

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Must be nice to have such faith in government, what was wrong was in two cases the government lied, and just got the registration so they would be able to collect them.
In the other the mayor, who didn't care enough about his citizens to use school buses to evacuate them used looting as an excuse to grab guns of the people most likely to be victims.

But I repeat... if the people were legally allowed to have those guns - they would still have them wouldn't they?

Much as I hate our government and every politician lies (it's part of the territory), it would seem that at least ours don't deliberately obfuscate and act illegally to confiscate guns legally owned.

All I can say is, there must be more to those stories than was reported.
As you keep reminding everyone, the 2nd allows Americans the right to own and bear arms.
If they were legally owned, they'd still have them or there would have been a class action lawsuit filed PDQ.

No, there was no legal justification for taking them.
And my dear know nothing friend, they are in court, problem is there are too many cases against Nagel , the moron mayor of NO and the real cause of things getting screwed up in Katrina.
All you are saying is they took them because they had a good reason and they had a good reason because they took them.

So 'splain it to me WHY they took them... apparently illegally?
Surely they had the right to defend their property, even if that meant SYG and shooting those trying to take their guns??

Nope. something doesn't add up here.
Either they were corrupt officials - in which case they should be sacked and jailed.
Or, there were more reasons to removing the guns that hasn't been reported.

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incompetent American police

are you telling us that the cops who you back to the hilt pretty much every time there is a thread about a cop killing someone are incompetent?

I seem to recall you blaming the dead people nearly 100% of the time, saying it was there own actions that caused their death.

Now suddenly, when it suits you, cops are incompetent. That puts a funny old spin on a lot of your old posts doesn't it?

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incompetent American police

are you telling us that the cops who you back to the hilt pretty much every time there is a thread about a cop killing someone are incompetent?

I seem to recall you blaming the dead people nearly 100% of the time, saying it was there own actions that caused their death.

Now suddenly, when it suits you, cops are incompetent. That puts a funny old spin on a lot of your old posts doesn't it?

There's a funny spin alright.....lol
Maybe there's something in the gun oil these folks use to fond...er clean their weapons.

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I don't know,with cars I'm guessing: car accidents ?
with cell phones: i'm thinking you reach the wrong number [8|]
With guns: people die,as has been shown to happen far to often.



What else you got,cause this candy assed shit isn't worthy of being on an adult,unimpaired(mentally speaking) forum.[;)]

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incompetent American police

are you telling us that the cops who you back to the hilt pretty much every time there is a thread about a cop killing someone are incompetent?

I seem to recall you blaming the dead people nearly 100% of the time, saying it was there own actions that caused their death.

Now suddenly, when it suits you, cops are incompetent. That puts a funny old spin on a lot of your old posts doesn't it?

Your sarcasm detector is on the fritz again he keeps telling me how much better British cops are than American cops, pay attention.

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this candy assed shit isn't worthy of being on an adult,unimpaired(mentally speaking) forum.[;)]

You seem to think that's a witty and amusing comment, but there may be users who would not appreciate being told that they are unworthy of participating in these empyrean forums because of their impairment.

And in all fairness, yanno, the Mods have let you stay.

K.

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incompetent American police

are you telling us that the cops who you back to the hilt pretty much every time there is a thread about a cop killing someone are incompetent?

I seem to recall you blaming the dead people nearly 100% of the time, saying it was there own actions that caused their death.

Now suddenly, when it suits you, cops are incompetent. That puts a funny old spin on a lot of your old posts doesn't it?

Your sarcasm detector is on the fritz again he keeps telling me how much better British cops are than American cops, pay attention.

What? you called American police incompetent, so I called you on it and asked a couple of questions. It's got nothing to do with British cops or "him" whoever "he" is.

Or are you just dodging the question?

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Bama,I'm done responding to you.
Let's just invoke the mercy rule and I'll leave you alone.
But work with me here,don't direct anymore lame post's my way....and I'll do the same with my postings [:)]

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I don't know,with cars I'm guessing: car accidents ?
with cell phones: i'm thinking you reach the wrong number [8|]
With guns: people die,as has been shown to happen far to often.



What else you got,cause this candy assed shit isn't worthy of being on an adult,unimpaired(mentally speaking) forum.[;)]

people die with cars, more than with guns.
Your argument (erroneous) that guns are designed to kill and cars aren't so we should worry more about guns is seriously flawed.
If something not designed to kill does so more often than something that is you most assuredly need to do something about something that ignores it's purpose and goes out and kills anyway.

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No sidestepping or dodging involved.

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Bama,I'm done responding to you.
Let's just invoke the mercy rule and I'll leave you alone.
But work with me here,don't direct anymore lame post's my way....and I'll do the same with my postings [:)]

I don't send you lame postings. But tell you what I'll put you on hide so I am not tempted, how about you work with me and do the same.

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I don't know,with cars I'm guessing: car accidents ?
with cell phones: i'm thinking you reach the wrong number [8|]
With guns: people die,as has been shown to happen far to often.



What else you got,cause this candy assed shit isn't worthy of being on an adult,unimpaired(mentally speaking) forum.[;)]

people die with cars, more than with guns.
Your argument (erroneous) that guns are designed to kill and cars aren't so we should worry more about guns is seriously flawed.
If something not designed to kill does so more often than something that is you most assuredly need to do something about something that ignores it's purpose and goes out and kills anyway.

I have just found out that there were 113 ladder related deaths last year, which is pretty bad. However 99.99999% of the time a ladder was used, nobody died.

The latest stats I could find said that over people drive over 2.5 trillion miles a year in the US. Now I have no idea how many individual journeys that is but I would guess that 99.something% of those journeys ended without someone dying.

Maybe that's because neither ladders, or cars are designed to kill, unlike, say, guns.

The car/gun comparison is completely pointless and stupid.