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slvemike4u -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:32:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but he didnt use a bat, he used a gun, he killed three people.
it made the forums
Mike made a comment on the outlier coming in trying to change the topic, it got no interest, Mike was the only one to mention it, well until this page.
It was a tit for tat post. As so many are.
Is this guy a terrorist? or a lone wolf filled with anger and guns? mentally disturbed most certainly but yes he more than deserves the term terrorist for his actions

The guy who shot two people in copenhagen was a "terrorist" straight away, no question of wether he was in a disturbance with neighbours, or lovers, or family, or mentally ill .... nope hes muslim, no more questions needed.
I believe that the only good terrorist is a dead terrorist, christian, jewish, catholic, muslim, or atheist. they are better off dead. Including this chapel hill killer pig.



You dont know what terrorists are then. 'Terrorists' arent motivated by parking disputes. The terror attacks in Denmark (for example) were meant to literally terrorize the community at large to keep them from exercising their free speech rights

In some Muslim communities Islamic leaders have been known to terrorize those who disobey Islamic law by severing fingers, toes, hands and / or feet of transgressors, or through severe deadly canings etc. Islamists use such terror tactics to keep people in line - in some places to force women to keep fully covered, or even to keep them indoors unless they have a male escort for a couple of examples

9/11 was a terror attack

What you are trying to call terror was just a parking dispute, and such disputes involving an insane person can and do occur in every culture. For you to claim that this specifically brings shame on America is ridiculous for that reason

Sanity's right(did I just type that!!!!!!)
This was not a terrorist.Killing people over a parking spot is,for the most part,as American as apple pie.
It's the birthright of any and all red blooded American gun owners right to snap at a flimsy provocation .
This is the gun culture of my country taken to it's logical conclusion.
So now you(in the generic) sense "own this" sanity....what are you going to do about it ?




THB,does this sound like someone no longer interested in the subject at hand ?




Lucylastic -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:34:01 AM)

LOL yeah right....the only terrorists are muslim...
yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

oh so what is the background story on the terrorist in copenhagen?
do you know his name?? no, you only "know" he was muslim.
That may be enough for you.
People in copenhagen and outside the US know the chapel hill man is a murdering american pig, who killed three muslims, the parking spot is a "cover up" to deflect from the abundance of american killers.
This chapel hill murderer hasnt caused terror amongst people in NC???? its a shame he wasnt killed in his terror attack
all the above is said tongue in cheek, because you simply cannot think outside the box.












slvemike4u -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:34:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: Sanity
...For you to claim that this specifically brings shame on America is ridiculous for that reason

Where did you get that from??
Coz I didn't see that in her post. [8|]

It does, and damm well should, bring shame on America.....and if you dont see that you should be.....ashamed of yourself




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:35:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Where did you get that from??
Coz I didn't see that in her post. [8|]


That post combined with such others as this:

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


we have had those discussions ad nauseam, try sticking the topic at hand which is muslim victims, by an american ugly murdering pig



http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4780845

But where does she say it brings shame on America???




Lucylastic -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:35:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: Sanity
...For you to claim that this specifically brings shame on America is ridiculous for that reason

Where did you get that from??
Coz I didn't see that in her post. [8|]

apparently all my posts have secret ink:)




slvemike4u -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:36:25 AM)

Lucy,were you able to decipher,and get a chance to view that link I sent you ?




Sanity -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:41:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Where did you get that from??
Coz I didn't see that in her post. [8|]


That post combined with such others as this:

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


we have had those discussions ad nauseam, try sticking the topic at hand which is muslim victims, by an american ugly murdering pig



http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4780845

But where does she say it brings shame on America???


Why did she use the pejorative ugly American... If she didnt mean anything by it




kdsub -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:44:19 AM)

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I don't think there has been, and I never expected, any reaction other than condemnation of this murder. To me and many others the fact that the victims were Muslim was not relevant, unless that is the reason they were killed. Then only as a motive. Senseless killing is senseless killing regardless of the victim, the killer, or the motive.


Bama I just cannot understand why people are making such a big deal out of these killings and blaming them on anti-Muslim bigotry when we all KNOW this is just a poor INSANE individual and has nothing to do with terrorism... you know like the recent Aussie incident....[8|]

Butch




slvemike4u -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:46:06 AM)

Fuck it Sanity,I came right out and said it......so explain to me how this doesn't ,and shouldn't by rights,bring shame ,and remorse by the way,to America ?


Are you not ashamed that three young people could get shot dead over a fucking parking space in your country ?



I know I am deeply troubled by such senseless violence .




slvemike4u -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:47:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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I don't think there has been, and I never expected, any reaction other than condemnation of this murder. To me and many others the fact that the victims were Muslim was not relevant, unless that is the reason they were killed. Then only as a motive. Senseless killing is senseless killing regardless of the victim, the killer, or the motive.


Bama I just cannot understand why people are making such a big deal out of these killings and blaming them on anti-Muslim bigotry when we all KNOW this is just a poor INSANE individual and has nothing to do with terrorism... you know like the recent Aussie incident....[8|]

Butch

Butch I think people are making such a big deal out of it cause,........well three people are dead for no good reason.

In my book that's a big deal.




Lucylastic -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:51:03 AM)

Mike, not until now:) gonna try it hon







BamaD -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:52:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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I don't think there has been, and I never expected, any reaction other than condemnation of this murder. To me and many others the fact that the victims were Muslim was not relevant, unless that is the reason they were killed. Then only as a motive. Senseless killing is senseless killing regardless of the victim, the killer, or the motive.


Bama I just cannot understand why people are making such a big deal out of these killings and blaming them on anti-Muslim bigotry when we all KNOW this is just a poor INSANE individual and has nothing to do with terrorism... you know like the recent Aussie incident....[8|]

Butch

I don't believe this one is an anti-Muslim hate crime because he had apparently previously pulled a gun on a non-Muslim over a parking space.
It has been said that he hated everyone.
If he had been turned in and arrested for the previous act this could have been avoided.
He did not espouse violence against any group prior to the attack as the person in Australia did.
This does not make his crime any less heinous.




slvemike4u -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:52:13 AM)

Thanks sweetie,I hope you agree it was worth viewing [:D]




Sanity -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:54:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Fuck it Sanity,I came right out and said it......so explain to me how this doesn't ,and shouldn't by rights,bring shame ,and remorse by the way,to America ?


Are you not ashamed that three young people could get shot dead over a fucking parking space in your country ?



I know I am deeply troubled by such senseless violence .


There are over 300 million people here in the USA. With that many people, all kinds of crazy shit is going to happen, but you cannot use every incident to shame me or make a new law to keep us all perfectly safe from every possible situation




kdsub -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 8:56:01 AM)

I believe it started over a parking space... then it turned into a anti-Muslim terror killings... there is no difference between this incident and any other terrorist incident... BUT... people can't have it both ways as some like to here... these incidents together are either terrorism or they are not. One incident was planned and the other not but they are both terrorism... or they are just both insane. Condemning one without condemning the other is the true meaning of bigotry. AND right now we have a few real bigots here.

Butch




slvemike4u -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 9:00:49 AM)

True again sanity(you're biorhythms must be off the charts today)and yet the capriciousness of the decision to shoot,the easy accessibility to weapons(he had a few more in his house) the fact that prior to this he was just another responsible gun owner must give you a moment of pause,perhaps a split second wherein you reflect of the insanity of the gun culture in this country.

How do you separate the culture that spawned this armed idiot from the resulting tragedy ?


None of that resonates with you ?


Just kidding I know none of those thoughts ever permeates into your skull [8|]




Lucylastic -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 9:00:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Where did you get that from??
Coz I didn't see that in her post. [8|]


That post combined with such others as this:

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


we have had those discussions ad nauseam, try sticking the topic at hand which is muslim victims, by an american ugly murdering pig



http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4780845

But where does she say it brings shame on America???

Thats just an attempt to show his feelings and thoughts are hurt because Im stamping on them apparently.
no biggie.
Chapel Hill Killer ....facts ....he is an american, he is a murdering pig, he is a killer,
So I'm automatically "shaming americans"....in his head...
But it has little to do with the reality that everyone else lives in.
Im sure there will be a couple of people who will attack my post, but they dont have a clue what was said, just what they think I mean.
their issue not mine.
just another [sm=lame.gif] attack
And not worth ruining a sunday for.





Sanity -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 9:04:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I believe it started over a parking space... then it turned into a anti-Muslim terror killings... there is no difference between this incident and any other terrorist incident... BUT... people can't have it both ways as some like to here... these incidents together are either terrorism or they are not.

Butch


Terrorism as we know it is planned out, supported by a community of like-minded individuals, based on holy scripture, and blessed by the prophet

This was some crazed wacko acting alone in the heat of the moment

Sort of like the difference between premeditated murder and murder committed in the heat of the moment, murder 1 and murder 2




slvemike4u -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 9:07:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

I believe it started over a parking space... then it turned into a anti-Muslim terror killings... there is no difference between this incident and any other terrorist incident... BUT... people can't have it both ways as some like to here... these incidents together are either terrorism or they are not.

Butch


Terrorism as we know it is planned out, supported by a community of like-minded individuals, based on holy scripture, and blessed by the prophet

This was some crazed wacko acting alone in the heat of the moment

Sort of like the difference between premeditated murder and murder committed in the heat of the moment, murder 1 and murder 2

Someone alert Homeland Security,Sanity just decreed that there is no such thing as "the lone wolf" terrorist.
Security services the world over can now relax ,the threat that has been keeping them up at night is not real...so says sanity




CreativeDominant -> RE: Three Muslims shot (2/15/2015 9:19:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

True again sanity(you're biorhythms must be off the charts today)and yet the capriciousness of the decision to shoot,the easy accessibility to weapons(he had a few more in his house) the fact that prior to this he was just another responsible gun owner must give you a moment of pause,perhaps a split second wherein you reflect of the insanity of the gun culture in this country.

How do you separate the culture that spawned this armed idiot from the resulting tragedy ?


None of that resonates with you ?


Just kidding I know none of those thoughts ever permeates into your skull [8|]
Your snide comment about Hicks being just another responsible gun owner sent me searching. Tell me, in what area of the following, do you find a responsible person? In the fact that he voted for the Democratic ticket? In the fact that he is an anti-theist?

"Craig Stephen Hicks was studying to become a paralegal at Durham Technical Community College at the time of the shooting.[26][27][18] Neighbors describe Hicks as threatening. He complained about the noise of one resident playing a card game and playing music when she pulled into the lot.[17] Hicks wrote on Facebook about reporting a couple having sex in a car in the parking lot to the police. In 2013, Hicks reported a dispute between a tow truck driver and a car's owner to police, and walked to the parking lot with a gun.[28][17]

Hicks had moved to Chapel Hill in 2005 from Bethalto, Illinois.[29] He has been divorced twice.[17] His first marriage, which lasted just five months, ended in 2005 when Hicks left his first wife and their two-month-old daughter before divorce proceedings could be completed. Martha Landson, his former mother-in-law from his first marriage, said "He was an unhappy, angry person. The first time I met him, there was something in his eyes." Landson said the family had stayed quiet on her daughter's brief marriage to Hicks to protect their now 10-year-old daughter, who has no idea her father has been jailed in connection to the shooting. Though Hicks had been allowed to visit his daughter on alternate Saturdays, he had not done so in the preceding decade, according to Landson. Court documents have shown Hicks' first wife had financially supported the couple during their marriage, and that Hicks has been perpetually unemployed. At the time of the shootings, he had no income or cash at hand. His assets were listed as his 2000 Nissan Sentra (worth $2,000), and his Finley Forest condo (worth $105,000).[29]

A friend of Yusor stated that Hicks was "holding a rifle" while complaining about extra cars in the neighborhood and noise from their game of Risk.[17] Another resident and a friend of Barakat and Yusor Abu-Salha told the Associated Press that "Hicks complained about once a month that the two men were parking in a visitor's space as well as their assigned spot. 'He would come over to the door. Knock on the door and then have a gun on his hip saying 'you guys need to not park here.' [...] Both Hicks and his neighbors complained to the property managers" who warned them to call the police if they were harassed again."[30][31]

Hicks had a publicly viewable Facebook page where he had uploaded an image of his .38 caliber revolver[32] and set his profile image to one stating "Atheists for Equality".[33] On his Facebook page, he described himself as an anti-theist, and posted numerous images which condemned all religions and religious violence. Hicks was critical of Christian opponents of the Park51 project, stating, "Seems an overwhelming majority of Christians in this country feel that the Muslims are using the Ground Zero mosque plans to 'mark their conquest [...] bunch of hypocrites, everywhere I've been in this country there are churches marking the Christian conquest of this country from the Native Americans."[34][35] CNN religion editor Daniel Burke interprets Hicks' response to conspiracy theories about President Barack Obama's religion as "It's OK if we have a Muslim president."[35] Hicks had set a banner image on his page to one stating, "I don't deny you your right to believe whatever you'd like; but I have the right to point out it's ignorant and dangerous for as long as your baseless superstitions keep killing people."[36] In another Facebook post, Hicks stated, "I give your religion as much respect as your religion gives me [...] there's nothing complicated about it, and I have every right to insult a religion that goes out of its way to insult, to judge and to condemn me as an inadequate human being -- which your religion does with self-righteous gusto."[37]

Hicks is a gun rights advocate with a concealed weapons permit[30] who had 13 firearms in his house.[34] Hicks complained about Christians and Muslims on his facebook page.[30] Hicks wrote, "Some call me a gun toting liberal, others call me an open-minded conservative."[30] Hicks voted in two recent elections, as a Democrat and once on a nonpartisan ballot"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Chapel_Hill_shooting




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