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Climate deniers exist elsewhere...
Well in all fairness, one of them is reality:
Arctic summers ice-free 'by 2013'
Scientists in the US have presented one of the most dramatic forecasts yet for the disappearance of Arctic sea ice. Their latest modelling studies indicate northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers within just 5-6 years... ~BBC Science
Its one thing to be skeptical of the evidence. But that implies you agree with much of how science is understood and developed. That you agree the scientific method helps generate good information and determine when someone is lying for political and/or religious viewpoints. Scientific skeptics do not automatically deny a study could be true and factual. But instead, test the original experiment(s) to see if they get the same, close to, or different results. Which is different from 'The Deniers' whom have a political and/or religious bent to the subject matter. Your a denier, not a skeptic. You deny the information for political reasons and nothing more.
Your information is pretty old and out dated. Yet, the information is pretty true from a certain perspective. Back in the 1980's the extent of the Arctic Ice was about 20,000 cu km. Now its low (after summer) was around 5,400 cu km and high of 8,000 cu km.
But that doesnt give the full picture. Arctic ice only is a two dimensional concept. That's length by width. The depth is very small. During melting periods, this ice disappears. When cooling takes place, some of that ice is reformed. The evidence shows a downward reduction is ice forming year after year. In essence, the area that has ice is shrinking. The 2007 report your tying to make fun of, actually isn't to far off of a prediction based on the evidence they had at the time. This is the evidence that shows your just a denier rather than a skeptic.
The full picture is something called 'Multi-Year Ice'. This adds a third dimension to the Artic Ice: volume. The volume of the ice has also been in decline year after year. In order to melt this multi-year ice so quickly (or in simpler terms, thick ice), would require much more heat than the normal cycle.
Could you explain to me and the rest us, why the extent and volume of ice in the Arctic is diminishing so rapidly?
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