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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Joether (biggest partisan from the left on the board...speaking of another's' views as partisan): You have this huge partisan view from the conservative ideology. Did you ever consider that your political philosophy is wrong, and not the science?
The science is not settled joether and science is not proven by consensus.
I'm a 'big partisan' because I'm hitting you and the other conservatives with something you dont like...
No sweetie, you are partisan because you paint everyone on the right as evil and refuse to see the bad on your own side. Kinda like racists see only evil in folks of a different color and ignore it when it happens to their own or the religious bigots only see the evil in other religions.
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FACTS
I have the ability to consider many things. Including whether a viewpoint of mine is wrong. Can you say the same? 'No', you cant. You know, I know it, and everyone else knows it.
Present an argument. Back it up with evidence. Make it sound like....YOU....created the argument. And didn't just 'copy/paste' the viewpoint from somewhere, or a talking points memo from ALEC! Look at how I present an argument. Did I copy/paste someone else's viewpoint ans pass if off as my own like a few conservatives on here?
*coughKirata*cough*
No, I'll give a source to show where the information is originating from. So you can look at it, and determine for yourself if things are true and correct. The problem you have CD is unique: Your just lazy on the facts. That is how I can destroy your arguments so often. Put some study into your argument, we can debate the concept, rather than me picking apart the 'how' you got your information.
I have no problem with someone disproving something I think, believe, or feel is correct. But I'm not going to take your word for it. I need...evidence....facts....stuff that I can study for a bit of time. To be 'off topic' for a moment, there is a few things I've learned over the years on gun control from the more conservative members (i.e. BamaD). That when they have made good arguments with good evidence, rather than the psychotic bullshit from the NRA; I have updated my views accordingly. I can tell the difference between the genuine argument and supporting information verse the cut/paste job.
Many conservatives for example, hate how President Obama talks. I disagree with the man at times. The difference between the conservatives and myself is not because I'm liberal. Its because I understand his argument and the supporting information that comes along with it. That he explains his thought process so I can understand "Ok, I can see the chain of events here".
I give these long-winded replies, in the hopes you can understand my argument and the supporting information. You can disagree afterward. But my hope is that you say "Ok, I understand what he is saying, and why he is saying this. Its a decent argument....BUT....I have this view here". And proceed to give it with supporting information. Now...THAT'S....a discussion forming.
I'm a partisan because I love liberty, freedom, and my country. That I'm a partisan because I give a shit about other people; many of them I dont know! That I do good Samaritan stuff....makes me a partisan in this country. I'm a partisan because I rather have facts and evidence instead of silly and stupid bullshit. Or maybe....just maybe, I'm an American that lives in a liberal republic called 'The United States of America'.
The idea that you threw all of those opinions under the heading "facts" explains a lot about the way you post.
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