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Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/22/2015 5:49:03 PM

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Not saying which way is actually correct, but makes one wonder.

1. Threat is real

2. Threat is a political ploy to try to force congress to fund illegals

What do you think?

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/22/2015 6:04:15 PM

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Not saying which way is actually correct, but makes one wonder.

1. Threat is real

2. Threat is a political ploy to try to force congress to fund illegals

What do you think?

Hadn't considered a political ploy, but I guess it is possible.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/22/2015 6:17:26 PM

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The mall of the americas is a much more likely target than say the local thrift store, and I am fairly sure that those that oppose us are looking for likely targets that can cause lots of damage.

The DHS, without funding, will start to degrade and some people will be without gainful employment and I am sure they don't want that. It is there fore within the possibility of overstating a threat might lead to the consequences that they want. As well, it would help the Dems get their "clean" bill that they are demanding in the Senate.

Makes me wonder.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/22/2015 6:18:49 PM

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And I was thinking of that infamous world's largest truck stop called "Mall of America". Are you talking the Capitol Mall or something else?

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/22/2015 7:46:13 PM

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And I was thinking of that infamous world's largest truck stop called "Mall of America". Are you talking the Capitol Mall or something else?

Bloomington, Minnesota (links below)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mall-america-heightens-security-al-shabab-threat/story?id=29137738
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mall-of-america-security-precautions-al-shabaab-threat/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/23/us/mall-of-america-terrorism-threat-jeh-c-johnson.html

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/22/2015 11:05:50 PM

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'fear.....Fear.....FEAR!" Always the background mantra playing at the subconsciously level on conservative news and media....

Lets be realistic, 4/19/95 and 9/11/01 were both studied for what they were. That people at local, state, and federal levels have thought on possible attacks of every kind. Where and how have been good questions. The local malls around where I live are routinely used by local an state police to practice all sorts of localized threads (one store) to the whole mall being taken. From conventional weapons to the heavy stuff (WMDs). That local, state, and federal groups practice this stuff, work together, and would have the support of the public in a time of need are all there.

Don't believe me? When the marathon bombing took place in Boston, MA; city and state offices asked residents to stay in doors unless they had to. I never saw downtown Boston and the financial district so deserted of people in my life. With help of the public, the evil-doers were hunted down.

That you guys are bring this up like its a new idea, is about 10-15 years late.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/22/2015 11:14:23 PM

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'fear.....Fear.....FEAR!" Always the background mantra playing at the subconsciously level on conservative news and media....

ABC, CBS, and The New York Times are "conservative" news media?

You need to have your medication checked, joether.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 12:01:10 AM

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'fear.....Fear.....FEAR!" Always the background mantra playing at the subconsciously level on conservative news and media....

ABC, CBS, and The New York Times are "conservative" news media?

You need to have your medication checked, joether.

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maybe he'd prefer

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/mall-america-shoppers-must-be-careful-amid-threats-johnson

we all know how conservative/right leaning they are.

in response to the OP

A) the threat was really made, and therefore is real
B) which doesn't stop either or both parties from using it as a political ploy or bargaining chip

PS. no one said it was a NEW IDEA, but it is what's known as a CURRENT EVENT. heaven forbid we speak of current events that don't fit into your picture of the world

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 12:04:56 AM

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FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) sells almost as much as sex and death when it comes to news stories.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 12:30:09 AM

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FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) sells almost as much as sex and death when it comes to news stories.

And something that might raise Presidential approval ratings (doesn't matter which President)

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 1:11:11 AM

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'fear.....Fear.....FEAR!" Always the background mantra playing at the subconsciously level on conservative news and media....

ABC, CBS, and The New York Times are "conservative" news media?

You need to have your medication checked, joether.

That's right, you focus on only one word in a book, and assume everything upon it.

The nature of the post was pointing out that while the news media is carrying a story, it is nothing new. That law enforcement and military forces have trained at many of these malls across the nation. Big and small. Dealing with 'a few tangos' up to and including 'The villain's from Die Hard'! That ISIS has targeted....something....in the USA. Oh NO's...

If they target parks, stadiums, and convention halls, would that be surprising? They will target anything and everywhere they can to get a rise. A bit of panic. Go chat with those Israels. They live with bombings, sniper attacks, and the fear of invasion for years. Law enforcement and the military train to combat the enemy of the nation on all areas.

That's right, focus on only that which you feel is a slam towards me. Its often petty, foolish, and showing of your abilities....

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 1:57:30 AM

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'fear.....Fear.....FEAR!" Always the background mantra playing at the subconsciously level on conservative news and media....

Lets be realistic, 4/19/95 and 9/11/01 were both studied for what they were. That people at local, state, and federal levels have thought on possible attacks of every kind. Where and how have been good questions. The local malls around where I live are routinely used by local an state police to practice all sorts of localized threads (one store) to the whole mall being taken. From conventional weapons to the heavy stuff (WMDs). That local, state, and federal groups practice this stuff, work together, and would have the support of the public in a time of need are all there.

Don't believe me? When the marathon bombing took place in Boston, MA; city and state offices asked residents to stay in doors unless they had to. I never saw downtown Boston and the financial district so deserted of people in my life. With help of the public, the evil-doers were hunted down.

That you guys are bring this up like its a new idea, is about 10-15 years late.

excuse me? all the op did was pose a question as to whether or not the threat against the mall of America was real, or if it was a political tool used by the administration.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 2:03:48 AM

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'fear.....Fear.....FEAR!" Always the background mantra playing at the subconsciously level on conservative news and media....

ABC, CBS, and The New York Times are "conservative" news media?

You need to have your medication checked, joether.

That's right, you focus on only one word in a book, and assume everything upon it.

The nature of the post was pointing out that while the news media is carrying a story, it is nothing new. That law enforcement and military forces have trained at many of these malls across the nation. Big and small. Dealing with 'a few tangos' up to and including 'The villain's from Die Hard'! That ISIS has targeted....something....in the USA. Oh NO's...

If they target parks, stadiums, and convention halls, would that be surprising? They will target anything and everywhere they can to get a rise. A bit of panic. Go chat with those Israels. They live with bombings, sniper attacks, and the fear of invasion for years. Law enforcement and the military train to combat the enemy of the nation on all areas.

That's right, focus on only that which you feel is a slam towards me. Its often petty, foolish, and showing of your abilities....

um no, the nature of your post clearly had to do with "fear...Fear...FEAR" directly related to conservative news and media so its fair game to anyone who mentions and focuses on that.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 2:06:23 AM

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FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) sells almost as much as sex and death when it comes to news stories.

And something that might raise Presidential approval ratings (doesn't matter which President)

You know who are big supporters of Democrats? At least privately?

Gun Store Owners. Publicly they are what ever will get them the most money. Politics is business....

Every time some disaster, mass/school shooting, or terrorist arrest/destruction; gun stores seem to have heavy business.

That and when Democrats try passing gun laws....

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 2:12:23 AM

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'fear.....Fear.....FEAR!" Always the background mantra playing at the subconsciously level on conservative news and media....

ABC, CBS, and The New York Times are "conservative" news media?

You need to have your medication checked, joether.

That's right, you focus on only one word in a book, and assume everything upon it.

The nature of the post was pointing out that while the news media is carrying a story, it is nothing new. That law enforcement and military forces have trained at many of these malls across the nation. Big and small. Dealing with 'a few tangos' up to and including 'The villain's from Die Hard'! That ISIS has targeted....something....in the USA. Oh NO's...

If they target parks, stadiums, and convention halls, would that be surprising? They will target anything and everywhere they can to get a rise. A bit of panic. Go chat with those Israels. They live with bombings, sniper attacks, and the fear of invasion for years. Law enforcement and the military train to combat the enemy of the nation on all areas.

That's right, focus on only that which you feel is a slam towards me. Its often petty, foolish, and showing of your abilities....

um no, the nature of your post clearly had to do with "fear...Fear...FEAR" directly related to conservative news and media so its fair game to anyone who mentions and focuses on that.

Lets be realistic, 4/19/95 and 9/11/01 were both studied for what they were. That people at local, state, and federal levels have thought on possible attacks of every kind. Where and how have been good questions. The local malls around where I live are routinely used by local an state police to practice all sorts of localized threads (one store) to the whole mall being taken. From conventional weapons to the heavy stuff (WMDs). That local, state, and federal groups practice this stuff, work together, and would have the support of the public in a time of need are all there.

Don't believe me? When the marathon bombing took place in Boston, MA; city and state offices asked residents to stay in doors unless they had to. I never saw downtown Boston and the financial district so deserted of people in my life. With help of the public, the evil-doers were hunted down.

That you guys are bring this up like its a new idea, is about 10-15 years late.

Do you see anything in....BOLD there? That would be the 'guts' of the post you both are ignoring. Because you dont have an argument for it. The first part (the part you both quote) is the....LEAD IN....to the rest of it. Or do you guys base an entire book upon just the introduction that would written by someone other than the author of the book?

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 2:33:24 AM

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'fear.....Fear.....FEAR!" Always the background mantra playing at the subconsciously level on conservative news and media....

Lets be realistic, 4/19/95 and 9/11/01 were both studied for what they were. That people at local, state, and federal levels have thought on possible attacks of every kind. Where and how have been good questions. The local malls around where I live are routinely used by local an state police to practice all sorts of localized threads (one store) to the whole mall being taken. From conventional weapons to the heavy stuff (WMDs). That local, state, and federal groups practice this stuff, work together, and would have the support of the public in a time of need are all there.

Don't believe me? When the marathon bombing took place in Boston, MA; city and state offices asked residents to stay in doors unless they had to. I never saw downtown Boston and the financial district so deserted of people in my life. With help of the public, the evil-doers were hunted down.

That you guys are bring this up like its a new idea, is about 10-15 years late.

excuse me? all the op did was pose a question as to whether or not the threat against the mall of America was real, or if it was a political tool used by the administration.

There have been threats against the United States of America for 239 years. Its faced man-made and 'Acts of God' disasters. It has overcome conflicts big and small. That you dont seem to understand this, implies your US Historical knowledge....SUCKS! There are threats to this nation every day and from many angles. That you dont seem to understand this, is your fault, not ours! How many death threats do you think this President gets in a day? Far higher than any other white President! Most of them, just because he is black!

That you think this is a "...political tool used by the administration." shows how sad your viewpoints have become of reality. Now if we are talking an administration that fed on fear, it was the G. W. Bush administration. That one profited off disaster, terror and war. And where were those conservatives in defending the nation from that shit? Voting for the guy doing that shit. All that administration had to do is whip you into a mindless frenzy of fear, and you'd do anything.

You want to accuse the administration of wrong doing? That they are secretly conspiring against America? As one man put it: Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence. Got that Extraordinary Evidence?

Of course you don't!

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 3:07:03 AM

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How many death threats do you think this President gets in a day? Far higher than any other white President! Most of them, just because he is black!

You're making shit up again, bozo. You don't know how many threats Obama or any other President has received.

Secret Service: Threat level against Obama no greater than under Bush, Clinton

U.S. Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan dismissed published reports that the level of death threats against President Obama are four times greater than typical threat levels against recent presidents — claiming the current volume of threats is comparable to that under George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 4:25:12 AM

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.....

You really do not stop and....THINK...about what your saying most of the time, Kirata.

If you think I couldn't destroy that post of yours; you are a true idiot. There are some subjects I will not venture forth on. This is one. President Obama is more threaten than other US Presidents. Its based on logic and reality.

I love my President and pray for him and this nation. An you will to, and go no further with this topic. I'm hoping your intelligent (and wise) enough to let this specific topic go. But I know you better than that.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 4:30:38 AM

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President Obama is more threaten than other US Presidents. Its based on logic and reality.

Ahh yes, I see, your wisdom is operating again.

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If you think I couldn't destroy that post of yours; you are a true idiot.

Well I dunno, you've never managed before.

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RE: Threat to the Mall of the Americas - 2/23/2015 4:35:47 AM

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an alternative view of what it is you are ranting about is that as it seemingly had nothing to do with the op, there was nothing in your first post worth responding to.

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