joether
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Yo Moderators, ifs its 'OK' for the conservatives to attack and insult, its open season for everyone else. Start holding them strictly accountable. That way, the rest of us, that do not misbehave are rewarded for our efforts.
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Get back to me when you have the results of that survey.
Oh, I'm sorry, were you on Mars, underground, with a blanket over your head for last half dozen months? Here on planet Earth, and more specifically the United States of America, we got to witness what happens when police have a lack of 'good will' with the community they operate in. Since there were many people demanding better things from their local law enforcement. Had the police force been more in-tune to the needs and wants of the community, could things have been adverted or at least, minimized?
That you cant understand this, shows the limits of your educational level....
That isn't "misbehaving?" LMFAO!!!
It is. Just because you the guilty party said it isn't, dont make it so. That would be like allowing murders to say "I killed that person in cold blood, but its not murder; I just felt like doing it."
Yeah, 'no', that attitude is misbehaving and insulting. That your incapable of understanding the concept is your problem, not everyone else's!
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You can stop any time you want, Joether. We all know you're just a partisan dumbass. You don't have to keep proving it every time you write a post.
Is that you best shot, DS? Calling me a 'partisan-dumbass'? Come on DS, grow the fuck up! Either be an adult or go hangout on Stormfront!
If the shoe fits, Joether, you may as well wear it.
I've never spent any appreciable amount of time on Stormfront (I can't say, for sure, if I've ever been on their site or not, either). Your posts are condescending and derogatory towards those who don't agree with you.
I think you need to "grow up," Joether.
"If the shoe fits"? Really DS? And in a few lines later, tell me to group up? You need to learn what it means to behave like an adult first, before you start telling others how to do that.
You know why my posts are the way they are to you?
Its because you have allowed yourself to be dumb down. By what forces, how, when, where, I could not say. That I make posts that you disagree on, and demand others agree with you....or else. I make posts and leave it to the reader to decide whether they agree or not.
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The LEO in the article has participated in the protection of the people he disagrees with.
You didnt really...READ...to understand the problem. This sentence of yours....CLEARLY....shows that. So let me inform you of the facts you missed:
1 ) The officer had been with the parade in the past as part of a security detail. Making sure the people went from point 'A' to point 'B' safely.
2 ) Had not....DIRECTLY....participated in the parade.
Before you slam someone, try to get the fucking facts straight!
Perhaps you need to read, and understand what I wrote. You even supported what I said in your #1. Participating "in the protection" of parade goes does not mean he participated in the parade.
Interestingly enough, he didn't want to participate in the parade itself, but tried to swap assignments to run traffic control and to close streets for pedestrians, during the parade. When that was denied, he even told his supervisor that he would be ready for practice and to participate in the parade. He didn't get the chance.
You might want to start taking your own advice.
What I stated, and what you stated are two very different things. You state he provided protection with people he disagrees with. I stated he provided protection, but did not state he disagreed with them or not.
That the guy has participated in previous parades without a problem and....NOW...he has a problem with it? What changed? That is a fair question for management to ask an employee. Based on the actions of the meeting between him and management, it seems they found his viewpoints...unsettling...for a police officer.
When he realized the writing on the wall, I'm sure he tried to do anything and everything to repair the damage; but that was to late. Yes, he didn't get a chance. But one could argue he had all the chances in the world. An he made a series of bad decisions in a straight line.
I'm guessing there is a police officers union. And the union guys will help this person 'back into' the police force. But this persons actions will be a black stain upon his record for as long as he's there.
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Being in a parade isn't doing anything to protect those people, really.
I like you to go tell that to the men and women of the Boston Police force that were there the bombs exploded at the finish line for the Boston Marathon a few years ago. Or the people on the streets. I think they will tell you to take your head and 'shove it where the sun don't shine!' Since both groups had people running in the race that day.
Police in a parade or with a parade are actively protecting people. Just because their gun isn't drawn as they move from cover to cover, down the street....DOESN'T.....mean they are not protecting people. I've been in hundreds of parades, organized a few of them. The police are always professional even when everyone else is being festive. I've no doubt they had a few plain cloths cops in the crowds keeping people safe.
Do you actually get out of your house and go to parades?
LMFAO!!! The Boston Marathon isn't a parade. Did the police have to run the Boston Marathon to protect the people? I didn't think so.
Those LEO's that are participating in the parade are there to entertain for the parade-watchers. Those LEO's that aren't participating in the parade are there to serve and protect.
Should always look up the definition of words, DS. A Parade can mean: a continual passing by, as of people, objects, or events.
Likewise your 'tirade' here is just evading and dodging what I stated. You know I'm correct and don't have the common decency to admit it.
When you become a police officer in this day and age, DS, you check your prejudices at the door. In fact, you dont get your prejudices until....AFTER...you leave the police force. That means when your off-duty, your, STILL, bound by the same effects and conditions had you been 'on the clock'. Its tough to be a police officer.
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Call Alex Trebek and see if you can buy a clue instead of a vowel.
What a lame attempt at humor, DS. When you buy a vowel, you *are* buying more of a clue to solve the problem. That you didn't know that concept, spells of a need to get a clue.....
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If he tried to swap assignments to one of a LEO being on patrol during the parade, shows that he sees a big difference between being in a parade and protecting the citizens during that parade. That's also why I wondered what assignment he was trying to get.
He tried swapping assignments and failed. That is were he bucks up and does his duty. To be a professional means to handle the ugly with the bad. That there are jobs one does not like to do for a variety of reasons. But they do them to show they are a few steps above the hourly workers. That I suspect he couldn't keep his religious views in check (i.e. be professional), cost him quite a bit in credibility to his superiors.
There have been many instances in which the KKK have demanded to have a rally in a public venue. I'm sure there were plenty of officers that didnt like having to escort them to and from safely. But that is the nature of the job, DS. To be a professional police officer.
And, according to the article, he told his supervisor that he would be ready for practice and to participate in the parade, that is, "buck up and do his duty." But, he was suspended before he could do that.
Unfortunately, you are...STILL...not understanding the chain of events very well. Yes, 'after' the meeting when shit was already coming down the pipeline, he said he would 'buck up and do his duty'. Unfortunately, it was well and to late to do just that. He fucked up before management. The time for him to say "I'll buck up and do my duty" would have been the first few moments of the meeting with management. He didn't do that.
I'm a pretty forgiving person, so I hold no ill will towards this officer. If he has a problem with gay people, maybe he might wish to consider a different line of work or actual therapy. Sooner or later, he'll be in a situation involving gay people. That prejudice, no matter how fine, could cause him to make the wrong decision. A decision that pisses off the public. An if that public found the management had knowing allowing this officer to operate, given those prejudices, THEIR ASSES would be grounded up as well.
After a certain moment of time, there was no 'good outcome' for this police officer. He made bad decisions and paid a price for them. In many ways its really disappointing. But none of that is my call.
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