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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/9/2015 6:21:20 PM

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Unless I remember wrong the last election was split evenly between the hawk and dove parties... which says to me as many Israeli people support his views...a little more, than oppose them... THEN. We will see if things have changed. But what ever the result it will not be one person at fault... it will be the whole nation... Just as we here in the US were responsible for Bush and his actions and Obama and his.

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/10/2015 5:16:40 PM

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Unless I remember wrong the last election was split evenly between the hawk and dove parties... which says to me as many Israeli people support his views...a little more, than oppose them... THEN. We will see if things have changed. But what ever the result it will not be one person at fault... it will be the whole nation... Just as we here in the US were responsible for Bush and his actions and Obama and his.

Butch

here you go again......... The point will always be in the history books that Netenyahu only got just under a quarter of the votes.

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/10/2015 5:40:42 PM

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He got no votes... his party and the other hawk party got the majority... that is all that counts.

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's RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/11/2015 2:30:04 AM

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The only alternative to a mutually beneficial agreement with Iran is war, and the only beneficiary of that war, whatever the result will be Bibi's Israeli pro-war hawks.

The question posed by Bibi's warmongering is whether the American people are up for another episode of their soldiers dying for Israel, with all costs to be borne the long suffering American taxpayer, who will enjoy none of the benefits.

Does it need to be pointed out that none of those beneficiaries will be engaged in the actual fighting and dying? Are the American people going to allow themselves to be duped by Bibi again, to their enormous cost in blood and treasure?

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RE: 's RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/11/2015 4:10:55 AM

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I think so yes Tweak, looking back on the last couple of weeks, the GOPS handling of the situation of the actual invite bypassing Obama(which curiously didnt make a thread here!!!!, the result of the visit and now the open letter to the iranians, makes me wonder if they can get any more ridiculous, which of course they can.
duped....indeed

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/11/2015 5:43:23 PM

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He got no votes... his party and the other hawk party got the majority... that is all that counts.

You seem to be perpetually stupid.

His party only got 23% of the votes....... That is not "the majority of the voters2 which was your dumbarse claim

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/11/2015 5:47:22 PM

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Ladies......... The stupidity of the arrogance shown by the Republicans in Congress will come back to haunt them. Firstly they cant legally overturn any deal made between The Government and Iran. Secondly, the action they took will cost them the support of China and Russia at the UN, making a new set of sanctions on Iran highly unlikely.

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/11/2015 6:28:18 PM

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I can see politesub that you have no idea how the Prime Minister is chosen...The coalition of hawk parties , parties are voted on not PM's, gave the coalition 68 of the 120 seats... a majority my friend. This is how it works , especially when there are so many different parties... 12 as of now... Coalitions are the norm not the exception... So the Israeli people were behind the hawks... it is their majority choices.

Now it may change of course but the people of Israel are responsible for his leadership up until the next election.

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RE: 's RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/12/2015 5:03:14 AM

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I think so yes Tweak, looking back on the last couple of weeks, the GOPS handling of the situation of the actual invite bypassing Obama(which curiously didnt make a thread here!!!!, the result of the visit and now the open letter to the iranians, makes me wonder if they can get any more ridiculous, which of course they can.
duped....indeed It is nothing more than Bibi's poodle.

Yes. Whatever dubious domestic political gains the GOP feels may accrue because of its actions, there seems to be little realisation of precisely what is at stake here*. Those stakes are war or peace. If a mutually satisfactory agreement can be reached, then the issue will be resolved diplomatically and peacefully, which is I hope, realised by all that it is the most favourable option.

A failure to reach a diplomatic agreement, or even worse, if the GOP succeeds in sabotaging a negotiated agreement means that the only option left on the table is war. The GOP's failure to acknowledge this simple inevitable fact suggests that it is trying to hoodwink Americans. The GOP's position means that it is effectively advocating for a new war against Iran - that is to say that the GOP is advocating for war.
* OTOH if, despite appearances, the GOP actually does realise what the stakes are, then it is being totally irresponsible in declining to alert Americans to the true nature of its warmongering. Utterly dreadful.

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RE: 's RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/12/2015 5:20:09 AM

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The stench of stupid is mighty powerful lately Tweak
Everyone hates the "moooozalems" but they hate Obama more.
I watched the c span link of rubio questioning kerry
man he couldnt have come off more of a brat whose balls are about to drop if he had actually been 11 going on 12.
He looked like he wanted to throw a tantrum right there and then.
Oh and now they are claiming "it was just a "cheeky" letter...fucking morons
I bet bibi is loving this....

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RE: 's RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/12/2015 6:26:55 AM

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hey Tweak, check this out:)
I know this is gonna fall on deaf ears as being partisan, but considering what bullshit we have recently been having link wise, Im gonna post it, to see how many can argue the actual points being made.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/foreign-policy-illiteracy-marks-gop-on-iran-412052035715?cid=sm_fb_maddow

*getting my crickets fed*

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RE: 's RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/12/2015 8:30:02 AM

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Thanks for the link Lucy.

Rachel M makes a lot of sense, but I fear she makes too much sense for the "foreign policy illiterates' on the Right to listen and absorb. I really hope I am incorrect in this assessment but somehow I doubt it. The level of ignorance about the ME generally exhibited by various members of Congress, and by right wing posters here over the years is frightening.

One would think that the common interest in destroying IS could be parlayed into a more promising detente on a lot of issues where there has been bad blood in the past. That's what a mature foreign policy that seeks to make friends throughout the world would do. That's what a sensible diplomacy would try to achieve. But it seems that the GOP is more interested in strutting around like peacocks drunk on their own delusions of power, doing Bibi's bidding for him like the craven nincompoops they are.

If I was American I would be ashamed and angry. However it seems that the fools have indulged in some overreach - a telltale sign of drunk on power - and that there is a strong backlash from the American people. Go for it Americans let the idiots know what you think of them.

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RE: 's RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/12/2015 9:20:52 AM

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Listen to Rachel? MSNBC???? omg no, rachel is tooooo liberal, a lesbian AND smart...everything "they arent"
how could she be anything but biased..:)
She is making far to much sense for any of the 46 idiots to even comprehend. Let alone their base.
The dumbshittery by the GOP right now
here are some of the links from the story
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-nation/2015/03/12/With-Iran-letter-Tom-Cotton-emerges-as-leading-GOP-national-security-hawk/stories/201503120148
http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/10/republicans-blasted-over-nuclear-letter-to-iran/24719145/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/10/open-letter-to-iran-shows-gop-senators-hate-obama-more-than-they-love-america.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/03/11/for-tom-cotton-letter-to-iran-is-anything-but-a-fiasco/?hpid=z2

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/12/2015 5:38:26 PM

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I can see politesub that you have no idea how the Prime Minister is chosen...The coalition of hawk parties , parties are voted on not PM's, gave the coalition 68 of the 120 seats... a majority my friend. This is how it works , especially when there are so many different parties... 12 as of now... Coalitions are the norm not the exception... So the Israeli people were behind the hawks... it is their majority choices.

Now it may change of course but the people of Israel are responsible for his leadership up until the next election.

Butch

Your stupidity still continues. Your claim was Bibi got more votes, he didnt end of story.

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/12/2015 8:53:21 PM

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He got no votes... can you not get that through your head... Israeli citizens do not vote for individuals.. they vote for parties... then the parties make coalitions then there is a specific procedure to pick a PM according to the coalition parties...not the people.

But yes politesub...end of story... all it takes is a little research...do it.

Butch

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/13/2015 4:50:55 PM

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He got no votes... can you not get that through your head... Israeli citizens do not vote for individuals.. they vote for parties... then the parties make coalitions then there is a specific procedure to pick a PM according to the coalition parties...not the people.

But yes politesub...end of story... all it takes is a little research...do it.

Butch

He.....IE His party, the one he is leader of got 23% of the votes........ Pendantic cherry picking doent alter your point or make it right.

You wouldnt know research if it bit you on the arse Butch.

Anyhow its all a moot point, election polls predict he will be out of office by midweek. Thankfully Herzog and Livni look sure to get in.

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RE: 's RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/13/2015 5:28:53 PM

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hey Tweak, check this out:)
I know this is gonna fall on deaf ears as being partisan, but considering what bullshit we have recently been having link wise, Im gonna post it, to see how many can argue the actual points being made.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/foreign-policy-illiteracy-marks-gop-on-iran-412052035715?cid=sm_fb_maddow

*getting my crickets fed*

I doubt many of the Republicans on here will watch that all the way through. How soon they forget Bushes words "You are either with us or against us"

The significance of Sunnis, in Tikrit of all places, home town of Saddam Hussein, welcoming Shia troops staggering.

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/14/2015 7:37:18 AM

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He got no votes... can you not get that through your head... Israeli citizens do not vote for individuals.. they vote for parties... then the parties make coalitions then there is a specific procedure to pick a PM according to the coalition parties...not the people.

But yes politesub...end of story... all it takes is a little research...do it.

Butch

He.....IE His party, the one he is leader of got 23% of the votes........ Pendantic cherry picking doent alter your point or make it right.

You wouldnt know research if it bit you on the arse Butch.

Anyhow its all a moot point, election polls predict he will be out of office by midweek. Thankfully Herzog and Livni look sure to get in.

I would not presume Butch, to tutor a Limey on the workings of Parliaments, they invented the bloody things. I would also consider such far flung notions as the Balfour declaration, and so on. I imagine there is not a hairs breadth difference in the working of English Parliament and the Israeli Knesset. Except perhaps, what is for lunch.

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/14/2015 9:48:51 AM

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Ron this is just one of those silly arguments to past the time that really have nothing to do with the thread... we just both like to be right... you know how that goes. And... we all know how stubborn politesub is and how I am not....

Butch

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RE: * What is Bibi's game? - 3/14/2015 12:42:22 PM

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Source: Senate panel probing possible Obama administration ties to anti-Netanyahu effort

All you leftist types, have some bleach handy to wash out your eyes 'cause it isnt a link to any of your Democrat party propaganda organs

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