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KenDckey -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/24/2015 7:57:27 AM)

Oh I understand national security very well. What I wonder is about redaction to protect someone that isn't a national security matter.




Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/24/2015 8:37:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Oh I understand national security very well. What I wonder is about redaction to protect someone that isn't a national security matter.

ask Bush, cheney rumsfeld, and their millions of emails, ask powell, ask jeb bush, ask all of them, including hillary.
Lets see Darrell issa and his dipshits to go thru that lot.
Lets bring them all up on charges.

every single one of them....




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/24/2015 8:50:45 AM)

to my earlier point:

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Gawker Media sued earlier this month seeking access to emails from Philippe Reines, a top aide to Mrs. Clinton. Gawker was stunned when the State Department earlier said it couldn’t find any Reines emails on a particular topic, even though another news outlet confirmed that Mr. Reines emailed on the subject.

“Based on the facts known thus far the developing story appears to be that the use of personal e-mails by Secretary Clinton and members of her senior staff may have been a deliberate attempt to shield communications from capture by governmental systems and the public’s eye, for reasons yet unknown,” Gawker’s attorneys told the federal court.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/23/obama-scrambles-to-limit-hillary-clinton-email-sca/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS#ixzz3VJoN2RKo





mnottertail -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/24/2015 8:52:36 AM)

Since she would be talking to other government officials they are archived and available, what? do you think she is emailing back and forth with James Woods and Sean Penn to get their views on the deal some real solid advice in the middle of the deal?




GotSteel -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/24/2015 9:00:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
I don't believe there is any smoking gun to be found.


Oh I suspect there is, perhaps even a good deal of gun smoking to be found or at least some Presidential dick pics.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/24/2015 9:11:06 AM)

Ah yes, Sun Myung Moons Washington Times, the font of truth.

Of course there is more past this, the interchange with Gawker and Reines. The article is way out of date, in fact as out of date as it is out of reality. A real innuendo packer whose inception was the DailyMail.

Do we have an email address? No? Ooopsie.




Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/24/2015 10:16:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Since she would be talking to other government officials they are archived and available, what? do you think she is emailing back and forth with James Woods and Sean Penn to get their views on the deal some real solid advice in the middle of the deal?

nope shes in bed with the tallyban and islamic state to sell uranium for pant suits.




slvemike4u -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/24/2015 11:37:58 AM)

One would think she as enough....pantsuits .




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/25/2015 4:26:57 PM)

more latest:

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Hillary! and the Rest of Clinton Inc. Hit with RICO Lawsuit Over Emails

It’s about time:

The conservative group Freedom Watch has filed a racketeering lawsuit against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that accuses her of failing to produce documents under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). The civil suit, filed Wednesday in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, argues that Clinton used her private emails to sell access to other officials in return for donations to the Clinton Foundation.

It alleges that, during her tenure, Clinton withheld documents requested under FOIA regarding State Department waivers given to businesses or individuals doing business with Iran, possibly undermining U.S.-imposed sanctions.

The complaint, which lists Bill and Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation as defendants, alleges the Clintons sold access to other U.S. government officials in return for donations to their organization, which they concealed, allegedly, by using a private computer server for her emails operated from their home in Chappaqua, New York.

Larry Klayman, the founder of Freedom Watch, launched dozens of lawsuits against former President Bill Clinton’s administration… In a statement, Klayman cast his lawsuit as “the first and only hard-hitting case to address the growing email scandal.”

Good for Larry Klayman. Use lawfare against them. Aside from brute force, it’s the only thing these miscreants understand.




Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/25/2015 4:35:22 PM)

Discredited Conspiracy Theorist Larry Klayman Is Behind Lawsuit Wildly Accusing Clinton Of Racketeering
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/03/25/discredited-conspiracy-theorist-larry-klayman-i/203042


Larry Klayman, a conspiracy theorist and WND columnist who has been at the margins of the conservative movement for decades, is behind a dubious lawsuit accusing Hillary Clinton of racketeering. Klayman is utterly lacking in credibility, having filed numerous far-fetched lawsuits targeting the Clintons over the years. He has also repeatedly suggested the Clintons "orchestrated the murders of several of their associates in the 1990s."

According to The Hill, Klayman has filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, accusing Hillary Clinton of using her private emails "to sell access to other officials in return for donations to the Clinton Foundation."

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit has already rejected a motion by Klayman to hold Clinton in contempt of court for not providing her emails in response "to a request seeking information on leaks about U.S. use of computer worms and viruses to set back Iran's nuclear program," according to Politico.

While The Hill notes that Klayman "launched dozens of lawsuits against former President Bill Clinton's administration," the paper leaves out the relevant context that he is a discredited conspiracy theorist.

Klayman is the founder and head of Freedom Watch. He also previously led the conservative group Judicial Watch. In his capacity as a "legal crusader," the Washington Post described his "record in public interest cases" as "incalculably terrible."


And....some more


America’s Worst Lawyer, Larry Klayman, Suing Clintons Again, Totally Gonna Nail ‘Em Now!

At last, someone is brave enough to try, for the first hundredth time ever, to hold the Clintons accountable for being the Clintons. And surprise! It’s the conservative group Freedom Watch, the brainfart of Larry Klayman, Esquire JD — famous for such legal victories as having Barack Obama deported for faking his birth certificate and suing Rachel Maddow for defamation, a suit he did not actually win after all, but that’s just because the clearly biased judge was a Jew. And a lady. What a bitch.

But Klayman will never give up, nor will he ever surrender, in his lifelong pursuit to put Bill Clinton’s penis in jail, so he’s filed yet another surefire no-way-he-can-lose lawsuit:


The complaint, which lists Bill and Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation as defendants, alleges the Clintons sold access to other U.S. government officials in return for donations to their organization, which they concealed, allegedly, by using a private computer server for her emails operated from their home in Chappaqua, New York.

The lawsuit contains so many indisputable “facts,” we would not be surprised if the judge who reads it immediately stamps it “OBVIOUSLY GUILTY OF ALL CHARGES!” and awards Klayman a gold medal and a certificate of excellence in lawyering. Such as:

As Jennifer Rubin for The Washington Post reports: “The foundation of course provides luxury travel for Defendant Hillary Clinton and her spouse, a high-visibility platform and access to mega-donors. She is beholden in a meaningful sense to its donors.”

Everyone knows if the Washington Post’s wingnut blogger “reports” her opinions, that’s prima facie evidence that the Clintons did A Bad Thing. And, as the complaint makes clear, the Clintons have a long record of Bad Thing Doing, and then covering it up and refusing to give all their secrets to Freedom Watch. In case you’d forgotten:

This type of obstruction of justice is part and parcel to the Defendants’ way of operating, including Defendant Clintons’ sales of sleep-overs in the Lincoln Bedroom of The White House, the Clintons’ sale of Presidential pardons in return for campaign donations[.]

The lawsuit goes on for many many SOOO many pages, filled with all the standard complaints Freedom Watch has been whining about for, oh, what is it now? Two decades? Plus fresh new revelations about BENGHAZI! and how Hillary Clinton orchestrated that from her private email server, probably. And there are many paragraphs of strolling down memory lane about things Bill Clinton totally did and people he knew in the ’90s — shut up, Bruce Lindsey (who?) IS still relevant, ya know — plus lots of citations to various articles by the New York Times, which prove:

Defendants could be charged and convicted of multiple, related violations of law which form a pattern and which violations are each potentially punishable by more than one year in jail constituting spoliation of evidence to avoid a subpoena.

They could be convicted and sent to prison. Really, it could happen! Even if all of the allegations in Klayman’s lawsuit have already been explored and investigated a million times, mostly by Klayman, you never know when justice will finally catch up with the criminal enterprise known as The Clintons. As Klayman explained in a statement applauding himself for being the one and only brave American willing to look into this whole “growing email scandal” thing:

“What Hillary Clinton, her husband, and their foundation have done is nothing new. It is simply part of a criminal enterprise which dates back at least 10 years, all designed to enrich themselves personally at the expense of the American people and our nation. It’s time, however, that they finally be held legally accountable[.]”

Maybe Bill and Hillary and Chelsea and their foundation and all their friends and neighbors really are guilty of stealing government documents and doing secret deals with Iran and China and criminally plotting the destruction of America, for their own financial gain, from their private basement server, and also Whitewater and Travelgate and all your favorite Clinton “scandals” that never panned out, except for The World’s Most Infamous And Importantest Blowjob. It’s not totally unpossible. But on the other hand, if Freedom Watch is making the allegations (for the trillionth time), it is probably a safe bet that this latest lawsuit, like all the others, isn’t going to be their ultimate undoing. See ya in court, Mr. Klayman. Until a judge laughs her Jew ass off and tells you to fuck all the way off. Again.


Read more at http://wonkette.com/580750/americas-worst-lawyer-larry-klayman-suing-clintons-again-totally-gonna-nail-em-now#kxy04E4fh8EBPjWV.99

Just two who see it differently:)
just to keep it balanced....
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bounty44 -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/27/2015 6:36:31 PM)

well this comes as no surprise:

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Hillary Clinton wiped “clean” the private server housing emails from her tenure as secretary of state, the chairman of the House committee investigating the 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi said Friday

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/gowdy-clinton-wiped-her-server-clean-116472.html#ixzz3Vdiev024


and this is somewhat damning:

quote:

“While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department,” Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi, said in a statement.


and of course she won't (though I hope a court compels her):

quote:

In a letter provided to the committee, Kendall said Clinton would not be turning over the server to a third-party for review...


there's no way of knowing for sure, so this man is a fool:

quote:

Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the Benghazi panel, said Clinton’s response “confirms” that the former secretary of state has provided all documents related to the Benghazi attacks to the committee.


to be continued...




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/31/2015 8:05:12 AM)

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As House Republican leaders weigh whether to try to force former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to hand over her personal email server, experts say the messages she deleted from it — or at least portions of them — can almost certainly be recovered...

The subpoena, which deadlined Friday, requested only documents. But after Clinton refused to hand over the server, top House Republicans are coalescing around a plan to talk to her first before they consider subpoenaing it, according to someone familiar with the conversations.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/hillary-clinton-emails-deleted-not-gone-116526.html#ixzz3VyYNIVBV


quote:

But if there are things that Clinton wants to keep from congressional investigators, she had better hope that her deletion crew bleached every corner of the digital world. Because if even a pixel of something Clinton should have handed over is unearthed in her domain or in a musty folder in someone else’s email system, Clinton would be a political goner. Her bold move to destroy emails even after being asked for them by the government would leave her in major-league trouble in the middle of her second presidential run. And Clinton has placed herself in the digital shark cage. If there’s anything amiss, she’d better hope that her IT guys are the very best on the business.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/30/one-email-from-oblivion-hillarys-big-bet-on-secret-server/




slvemike4u -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/31/2015 10:46:39 AM)

16 funny pages....laugh my ass off at the conspiracy fools.




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/31/2015 1:02:17 PM)

i don't recall anyone here, nor anything ive read, being anywhere close to what could accurately be described as "conspiracy."

Hillary Clinton was required by law to make all her work communications accessible to the government. she didn't do that. further, as ive said before, documents that probably should exist are missing---that is, there are gaps in pertinent communication. she has repeatedly lied about things.

lastly, what possible reason could Hillary Clinton have for doing everything she's done except for to avoid government oversight and public scrutiny?

"laugh my ass off at conspiracy fools" doesn't address anything relevant.




slvemike4u -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/31/2015 1:34:59 PM)

I was referring to Larry Klayman,who as far as I know was the only "conspiracy fool" mentioned previous to my post.
But I will say bounty you are coming real close,real fuckingcloise.
My opinion,I'm entitled to it [:D]




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (3/31/2015 1:36:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

i don't recall anyone here, nor anything ive read, being anywhere close to what could accurately be described as "conspiracy."

Hillary Clinton was required by law to make all her work communications accessible to the government. she didn't do that. further, as ive said before, documents that probably should exist are missing---that is, there are gaps in pertinent communication. she has repeatedly lied about things.

lastly, what possible reason could Hillary Clinton have for doing everything she's done except for to avoid government oversight and public scrutiny?

"laugh my ass off at conspiracy fools" doesn't address anything relevant.



the conspiracy would start at she didnt do that and would continue at repeatedly lied about things.




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (4/1/2015 3:45:05 AM)

"Looking back, it would have been probably, you know, smarter to have used two devices," Clinton said. Her office that day released a statement saying she "wanted the simplicity of using one device."

yet (never mind that devices can have multiple accounts on them):

"Hillary Rodham Clinton e-mailed her staff on an iPad as well as a BlackBerry while secretary of state, despite her explanation she exclusively used a personal e-mail address on a homebrew server so that she could carry a single device, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press."

so that, "explanation" doesn't hold water anymore, if it ever did...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/31/hilary-clinton-email/70708314/




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (4/1/2015 4:05:40 AM)

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thishereboi -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (4/1/2015 4:20:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

i don't recall anyone here, nor anything ive read, being anywhere close to what could accurately be described as "conspiracy."

Hillary Clinton was required by law to make all her work communications accessible to the government. she didn't do that. further, as ive said before, documents that probably should exist are missing---that is, there are gaps in pertinent communication. she has repeatedly lied about things.

lastly, what possible reason could Hillary Clinton have for doing everything she's done except for to avoid government oversight and public scrutiny?

"laugh my ass off at conspiracy fools" doesn't address anything relevant.



the conspiracy would start at she didnt do that and would continue at repeatedly lied about things.


Well according to mikey it was referring to Larry Klayman but I can understand if you don't buy that one. After all he first referenced 16 pages which just happens to be the page this post is on and also states "the conspiracy fools" which implies more than the one he is now claiming. But he is on the same side of the fence so perhaps you should just ignore the inconsistencies and back his ass up.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary's E-Mails (4/1/2015 6:29:42 AM)

Why would I do that? I am capable of independant thought, and not given to slobbering asswipe either gushingly or passive-agressively from rightwing Fascist shiteaters devoid of actual facts.


You might try giving that little felching habit a skip every so often.




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