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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 5:59:24 AM   
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I enjoy how the conservatives and libertarians are trying to push this issue. Because they all know.....NONE.....of the possible Republican or Tea Party 2016 candidates have a prayer in a race against Hillary Clinton. Rather than a straight up, honest, and open race; these people want everything underhand and evil. Then bitch later why the race was so dirty and ugly. When its pointed out they they played a major role in things, they flatly deny it. Even if you show the writtings and video of their words and actions.

Hillary is a tough gal. As a US President she will not take shit from anyone. She'll be the one that shows the world that Putin has a secret sissy fetish.

Benghazi didn't work for them, so now they are even more desperate to find....something.....ANYTHING....to pin on here. If your selection of people for the GOP or TP tickets is so utterly, fucking bad; why not look for other people? That would be the logical course of action. Oh forgot, logic is not a virtue of the GOP/TP....

Wrong again, what a surprise. I hope she makes it to the primary because I think she would be the easiest to beat. But you are right about the election being ugly. Between the right reusing all the old sarah jokes on hillary and the left crying because they are being mean to her it's going to be a free for all.


Hillary Clinton is the next US President. She has the credentials. She has more experience. She has served in the White House. An she's been a first lady before. An it seems in poll after poll, for someone whom hasn't announced yet, that she is beating down everyone else on the GOP/TP line.

You can claim I'm wrong. But there are facts, and then there is your fantasy world.

Sarah Palin is a 'has been' con artist. That you have been fooled by her is not a surprise. She couldn't hack a full term of a backwards state. Hillary was a Secretary of State for her stay in the White House. Comparing Sarah Palin to Hillary Clinton is like comparing a molecule of caffeine to the cup of coffee most people will drink this morning.

In case your wondering, the average cup of coffee has 4,188 10^20 molecules.

Would Americans settle for one molecule of caffeine, or a cup of coffee?


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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 6:01:20 AM   
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I do believe that Hillary is digging a political grave of her own making. I think this has her so tainted, not only by reps, but by Dems that she may not survive.



As long as she waits until after the primary to crash and burn....


I understand your desire to see her be the candidate and get beat...and id love to be able to cast a vote against her, as well as for my favorite candidate and see that happen too, but I think the risk is too great---the country is too full of Hillary-bots who will vote for her even if she kills puppies and eats kittens for breakfast.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 6:04:03 AM   
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I do believe that Hillary is digging a political grave of her own making. I think this has her so tainted, not only by reps, but by Dems that she may not survive.


I hope that is indeed the case---poll numbers of her popularity amongst democrats have gone done quite a bit, but its the independents who will make the difference.

one big problem right now too is, the democrats don't seem to have any other candidate who is viable, so theres a sort of necessary "defend Hillary at all costs" sentiment.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 6:07:33 AM   
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Rather than a straight up, honest, and open race; these people want everything underhand and evil.

You mean something like this?

"Harry Reid PROUD of his lies about Mitt Romney: "he didn't win, did he?"
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/31/politics/harry-reid-dana-bash-interview/

Yep...only those on the right are evil and underhanded, aren't they, joether?

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 6:13:31 AM   
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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 6:21:25 AM   
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I think you'll find that the lefties and lefty media outlets are kind of piling on Hillary so that in six months, when things really heat up and they throw their support on top of Hillary (One can only hope), they can appear (at least, when they look in the mirror) like they've been "fair and balanced".



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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 6:25:59 AM   
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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 8:05:15 AM   
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On the other hand, nothing coming out of the rightwing could be elected dogcatcher, and nothing likely will.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 4:10:10 PM   
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a good point...one wonders then why she didn't try to run with that explanation---although since she did end up using multiple devices, I guess it does render that argument null.[/quote]

Well, that explanation came out a while ago (roughly 3 weeks), HERE.


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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 6:33:14 PM   
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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 6:59:11 PM   
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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 7:01:31 PM   
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Sarah Palin is a 'has been' con artist. That you have been fooled by her is not a surprise. She couldn't hack a full term of a backwards state. Hillary was a Secretary of State for her stay in the White House. Comparing Sarah Palin to Hillary Clinton is like comparing a molecule of caffeine to the cup of coffee most people will drink this morning.

In case your wondering, the average cup of coffee has 4,188 10^20 molecules.

Would Americans settle for one molecule of caffeine, or a cup of coffee?




Never been all that fond of Sarah but once again not surprised to see you lie and claim I am. Don't you ever get tired of being called on your constant bullshit?

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 7:02:43 PM   
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I do believe that Hillary is digging a political grave of her own making. I think this has her so tainted, not only by reps, but by Dems that she may not survive.



As long as she waits until after the primary to crash and burn....


I understand your desire to see her be the candidate and get beat...and id love to be able to cast a vote against her, as well as for my favorite candidate and see that happen too, but I think the risk is too great---the country is too full of Hillary-bots who will vote for her even if she kills puppies and eats kittens for breakfast.



You might have a point. I might be putting to much faith in people. I just can't imagine being that desperate.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/2/2015 7:38:58 PM   
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Folks who choose to vote for Hillary are to be christened Hillary-bots .....lol,fucking pathetic

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 4:47:15 AM   
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From joether (referring to those on the right)
Rather than a straight up, honest, and open race; these people want everything underhand and evil.

You mean something like this?

"Harry Reid PROUD of his lies about Mitt Romney: "he didn't win, did he?"
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/31/politics/harry-reid-dana-bash-interview/

Yep...only those on the right are evil and underhanded, aren't they, joether?


George W. Bush's lies cost this nation 3,2000+ dead US Soldiers, with ten times that amount with long term or permanent injures. His lies created a deficit, increased the US Debt, and undermine the country's social standing throughout the world. You want to talk about what sort of damage liars do?

From your source:

"Bash also asks about whether he regrets accusing Mitt Romney, with no evidence, of not paying his taxes. Without hesitation, "I don't regret that at all." When Bash followed up about some calling it "McCarthyite", he gave a shrug with a little smirk"

An how many people on the right have accused President Obama of not being an America? Of being a Muslim? Of trying to take away our guns? Drive the nation's economy into a shithole?

You want to get a parting political attack on Mr. Reid? Go for it. Its your 1st amendment right. Course, if you dont do the same to the people you support or vote into office, your just a hypnotical punk.

Sounds like Mr. Reid stated something in the heat of the moment, with tempers flared on all sides. Should he have made the accusation? Probably not. But if we required everyone to back up their arguments with actual solid evidence; we would never hear anything out of 99.9999% of conservatives and libertarians. FOX 'news' would be completely blank and silent 24/7/365. Conservative talk radio hosts would be out of a job within a week. Every single denier of science would never get a word in edge wise to any conversation.

...now that I think of it. Maybe we should require actual solid evidence when accusing someone of something.

Would mean not one person from the GOP/TP could state anything in their election campaign to the public for the GOP nomination. Or in the general election itself!

Hillary was already winning hands down before; now all she has to do is announce her bid and take the rest of the year off!

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 5:00:07 AM   
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Sarah Palin is a 'has been' con artist. That you have been fooled by her is not a surprise. She couldn't hack a full term of a backwards state. Hillary was a Secretary of State for her stay in the White House. Comparing Sarah Palin to Hillary Clinton is like comparing a molecule of caffeine to the cup of coffee most people will drink this morning.

In case your wondering, the average cup of coffee has 4,188 10^20 molecules.

Would Americans settle for one molecule of caffeine, or a cup of coffee?

Never been all that fond of Sarah but once again not surprised to see you lie and claim I am. Don't you ever get tired of being called on your constant bullshit?


You have yet to establish you have not been fooled by her. So I have not lied, but merely stated the evidence once more.

You guys all try in vain attempts to call out what you think is bullshit. Your problem is having trouble twisting reality to your political viewpoints. That you often lack evidence from solid and credible sources. And often name call, to show you have nothing to counter; rather than be an understanding gentleman and admit defeat.

I still stick to the notion that this whole attack on Hillary with the email is just a Repbulican/Tea Party ploy. I've stated the reasons why (which no one countered). An that the whole thing is politically motivated, NOT, criminally motivated (again, no one is challenging that notion either).

You going to keep playing games and slinging insults, boi; or your you going to arrive at a half decent argument sometime before the end of the current millennium? Please tell me when that exact date and time is; so I can ignore all your bullshit pettiness and crap between now and then....




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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 5:29:49 AM   
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She couldn't hack a full term of a backwards state.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 5:33:23 AM   
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You have yet to establish you have not been fooled by her. So I have not lied, but merely stated the evidence once more.


Actually, it's your claim to establish that boi was fooled by Palin.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 7:49:02 AM   
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So the name has already been agreed on.
Folks who choose to vote for Hillary are to be christened Hillary-bots .....lol,fucking pathetic


if you can put your partisan hackles away for a moment you will see that I made the distinction of "people who will vote for her no matter what she does".

ever see the videos where Obama voters agree with and support positions directly being put forth by his opponents?

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 7:51:09 AM   
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