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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 3:02:35 PM

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So did you read the original or the anniversary edition?

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 3:05:21 PM

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there is no real "Hillary derangement syndrome"

Unfortunately, denial is one of the symptoms.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 3:05:21 PM

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the language of the thought is nevertheless all-encompassing

Encompassing what? Or whom?

Anyone who's ever questioned religion? Any criticism of its adherents' conduct?

All of humankind?

Anyone you disagree with?

the answer to those questions is in the quote itself, it's "people who are religious."

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 3:11:54 PM

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the language of the thought is nevertheless all-encompassing

Encompassing what? Or whom?

Anyone who's ever questioned religion? Any criticism of its adherents' conduct?

All of humankind?

Anyone you disagree with?

the answer to those questions is in the quote itself, it's "people who are religious."

That's not quite what I meant.

You noted that "it was written in response to one unfortunate and stupid instance," but you also say it "gives some insight as to posts elsewhere." That suggests you see the quote as representing folks beyond the author. If so, I'm wondering who those people are.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 3:14:22 PM

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oh no...I was only referring to other posts made only by that same author, the originator of the quote.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 3:42:29 PM

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there is no real "Hillary derangement syndrome"

Unfortunately, denial is one of the symptoms.

ah good one...

I think you will find though that most people's (on the right that is) reaction (and opposition) to Hillary is relatively cool, collected and not without a great deal of solid reasoning.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 4:06:40 PM

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hahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahah
this thread proves otherwise, LOLOLOL

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 5:27:51 PM

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OK What I believe about Hillary's village statement is that she is trying to take responsibility for the actions of the children away from them and give it to anyone and everyone else and thus clearing them from any wrong doing. That includes parental responsibility. After all, it was the village that was responsible for raising the child.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 6:29:52 PM

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there is no real "Hillary derangement syndrome"

Unfortunately, denial is one of the symptoms.

ah good one...

I think you will find though that most people's (on the right that is) reaction (and opposition) to Hillary is relatively cool, collected and not without a great deal of solid reasoning.

It's early yet,they will become more unhinged as the polling numbers and Nate Cohen statistical paths to Electoral College victory start coming out .LOL

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 6:30:24 PM

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So did you read the original or the anniversary edition?

When it first came out. That was just the first Amazon link that came up.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 7:25:46 PM

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“Videos with scenes of common-sense baby care—how to burp an infant, what to do when soap gets in his eyes, how to make a baby with an earache comfortable—could be running continuously in doctors’ offices, clinics, hospitals, motor vehicle offices, or any place where people gather and have to wait.” Imagine if these sorts of ideas were fully implemented at the Department of Motor Vehicles, the passport office, and other places “where people gather and have to wait.”Giant flat screens at the airport pumping breast-feeding advice? The JumboTron at football games? At what point would the Brave New World seem to be heading down the pike? ~Jonah Goldberg

It's funny: Waiting rooms loom large in my life these days, and I'd totally find baby-care videos, which would at least convey useful information, a blessed relief from the usual fare of cud-chewing chatterboxes on cable news. Last time I saw the wound specialist, I sat for 30-45 minutes as CNN blathering heads discussed the Germanwings crash ad nauseam. In all that time, they imparted perhaps four or five actual facts.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 7:42:17 PM

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there is no real "Hillary derangement syndrome"

Unfortunately, denial is one of the symptoms.

ah good one...

I think you will find though that most people's (on the right that is) reaction (and opposition) to Hillary is relatively cool, collected and not without a great deal of solid reasoning.

It's early yet,they will become more unhinged as the polling numbers and Nate Cohen statistical paths to Electoral College victory start coming out .LOL

If that's true then perhaps they should get a hobby or two. While I do not expect her to win, if she does it won't be the end of the world.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 7:46:05 PM

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Don't spend any of your valuable time worrying about me.
It's painfully obvious you have more important matters to attend to.
I understand some lefty made a post on another thread....fetch Ubo fetch

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 7:53:03 PM

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I can see this will be a fun night. To think, I might be spanking a nice butt, but nooooooooo.

Then again, I can still be sadistic. All good.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 8:23:43 PM

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 8:36:45 PM

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The "it takes a village" subplot has set me to thinking about my own childhood.

From a "traditional family" perspective, I was hugely blessed: loving, devout mother and father, still married after 52 years; three squabbling siblings who've matured into awesome adults; smart, funny grandparents who helped gave a shy, nerdy kid some confidence; fascinating aunts and uncles who listened and offered wise counsel when I couldn't connect with the folks; and 18 cousins, some of whom are among my dearest friends today.

With all that, who'd need a village, right? Well actually, I did. My life was hugely enriched by all sorts and conditions of fellow villagers:

-- the priests at church,
-- teachers,
-- Scout leaders,
-- volunteer coaches for the swim team,
-- neighbors who gave me odd jobs that helped me pay my way to Boy Scout camp,
-- school bus drivers who saw us safely there and back again,
-- employees in our family business who helped me see life from new and different perspectives,
-- friends' parents who gave us safe places to be kids and drove us to practice and swim meets,
-- volunteer firefighters who helped keep us safe and trained me in CPR,
-- parental volunteers who ran bake sales and rummage sales and clothing drives and blood drives to help meet needs in the community,
-- local merchants who bought ads in school yearbooks, underwrote Christmas decorations on our version of Main Street, and sponsored Little League teams,
-- neighbors who quietly appeared with casseroles and snow shovels in times of need,
-- folks who bought Girls Scout cookies, Sally Foster gift wrap, cartons of fruit, and God knows what else to support community activities,
-- neighboring families who welcomed us into their homes and lives and celebrations, exposing us to other traditions and ways of looking at life, and
-- the many folks I'm forgetting.

I'm glad I grew up in a family.

And, hell yes, I'm glad I grew up in a village too.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 8:44:44 PM

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I could have used a village,my family was a disaster...there are many times I console myself that what happened to me couldn't happen today.
I know,deep down ,I'm wrong....and somewhere,some kid is being raised under appalling conditions ...but the idea of people actually paying attention and looking for the signs warms my heart and gives me a little peace.
So yeah,sometimes it does take a village,why is that such a bad thing ?
Why does the right detest that so deeply and strongly ?

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 9:45:14 PM

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Anyone awake during the last few centuries with any multi-cultural experience has to have noticed the Western experiment with the 'nuclear family' as a child raising institution has been an abject failure. Yes, MOST involved professionals clearly agree the number of amazingly incompetent 'parents' in the US is a huge problem needing immediate addressing. Ask ANY teacher?

Things are clearly getting worse in our schools, but you can't blame that on the nuclear family. If anything, the evidence is precisely the contrary. Because the fact of the matter is that fewer kids today live in a nuclear family.

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Most pre-industrial human cultures and all animal species with social organizations use extended families and Communities to socialize recruits to the society, a far more effective method for both the community and the individuals.

I'm not sure that imitating "animal species with social organizations" is best way for modern humans to organize their societies. But primitive and pre-industrial cultures are characterized by far less individual freedom than we enjoy today, a return to which seems to be the essence of your notion of a "more effective method" of organizing society.

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Frenzied ideologues see conspiracy and attacks on 'individual freedoms' where practicing educators see the complex influences necessary to build intact, resilient and healthy personalities.

Yeah, bingo. But if you could defend your claim, it wouldn't be necessary to preemptively dismiss arguments favoring individual freedoms with an ad hominem about "frenzied ideologues" lacking "intact, resilient and healthy personalities."

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/3/2015 9:59:50 PM

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The dichotomy is specious. Everybody grows up in both a family and a village.

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RE: Hillary's E-Mails - 4/4/2015 7:38:59 AM

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The dichotomy is specious. Everybody grows up in both a family and a village.

K.

I agree. But not everyone else seems to:

"I am here to tell you it does not take a village to raise a child. It takes a family to raise a child." (Bob Dole, 8.15.96)

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