LookieNoNookie
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Lookie, you said that women known to be sub are considered sexy. But that's not what you want to be thought of at work. Sub women are viewed as easy. They aren't viewed as powerful people who can close a deal or be trusted with control of a project.
Nobody should be viewed on the job through the lens of their sexuality. Everybody loses.
As far as you being unable to date because being seen holding her chair for her would make you be seen as a wimp? I call bs. Unless you're a NFL player or a boxer. that's not the case.
No argument but....a man announcing themselves (or known for...at least in 2015...our time will come in time....as LGBTQ has now over decades and decades of perseverance...but for a male sub, it's still a real issue) either for being a sub OR a Dom, are often construed as weak/laughable and at worst, preying on women.
One only has to look here....at CM/CS posts...."hi, I'm a dominant female and I'd...."...she's devoured from every corner by sub males, the world over. How many times have I read on posts..."I can't even answer my emails" from women....men....we're lucky to even be acknowledged....and yet, a woman can put up a profile {tomorrow morning}..."I hate Jews, black people, Mexicans and I think Hitler was a totally awesome guy" and you'd be flooded with "you're exactly what I'm looking for".
Guys, we can add every flowery reference and....we'll be lucky to be accosted by Mod 3 (Whom I'm informed is one sexy lil thang)....(That was blatant sucking up but.....da's wut we as men's dooo's).
Reverse it and, unless you have 12 years behind you (and 30 references)....a male expressing himself as a Dom is at best questionable (and this is discernible purely from female responses herein).
Male sub profiles...."I wish for...but I'd be willing to...if you would consider me....I'd....."
Female sub posts....."I'm a sub, a nurturing....but if you think that I'll....and don't ever ask me to...."
Yet over those two same profiles, men will be presumed as "playing/pandering"....."I've heard that song before"....women, (of course, are) telling the truth.
Both are unfairly false.
I'm confident all of that and more is due to women being preyed upon....I get it and anyone that doesn't is stooopit. Chics are pursued....sometimes dangerously so.
Work (and...outside of this and similar venues) wasn't the main point but, even if it were and, the two could be separated (which they cannot for this argument be, for either sex)....a woman is perceived as sexually more desirable under either scenario....a man....(far) less so.
(And by the way....whether I was a sub or a Dom...I would always hold out a woman's chair and I would always open her door....da's wut my Momma taught me and....even if she hadn't....the fairer sex deserves at least that....they're God's gift and every man knows that....there is no equality in the sexes...and I do date....but my predilections aren't something that comes out on a first {or 4th} date unless I start out with someone who shares at least....(our....here) understanding.
Dating, as a sub male, therefore, is VASTLY more complex than under any sexual orientation for a woman. Note, I never said it was easy for either...just....more than obviously....easier for a woman under any guise.
< Message edited by LookieNoNookie -- 3/15/2015 7:17:14 PM >
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