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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Buy fertilizer you napalm oil eaters and burn MF.

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ORIGINAL: joether

Every piece of technology has two uses: Something that improves humanity, and something that destroys it.

With 3D printing coming in to existence, all manner of things could be produced. Some of it, that helps ease the suffering on people's lives. I know of one medical patient whom got a plastic plating designed specifically for their head. In another example, one engineer created a low cost printer that makes artificial limbs for people in Africa whom are victims of anti-personnel mines.

But to print firearm parts, feels like a destructive use of the technology. Yes, its 'neat' and 'curious' to see such parts handle the sort of stresses firearms are subjected to over a long period of time. And I'm always for improvement in technology. But how does this technology really improve the lives of people? Firearms in America are already pathetically easy to obtain. This device and others like it serve the criminal world great, by creating weapons 'off the radar' from established manufactures. Just because we have the power and knowledge to do it.....should we do it?

Devices like this one will eventually be either heavily restricted or ban all together. Once the Firearm Industry starts to loose money on sales, they will push Congress to form such laws. That or some well known politician is killed with either some or all the parts created using a device like this one.

The gentlemen in the video have good intentions. Unfortunately it doesn't take to much imagination how these tools can be used for the wrong reasons and remain under the radar.

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

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ORIGINAL: joether

Every piece of technology has two uses: Something that improves humanity, and something that destroys it.

With 3D printing coming in to existence, all manner of things could be produced. Some of it, that helps ease the suffering on people's lives. I know of one medical patient whom got a plastic plating designed specifically for their head. In another example, one engineer created a low cost printer that makes artificial limbs for people in Africa whom are victims of anti-personnel mines.

But to print firearm parts, feels like a destructive use of the technology. Yes, its 'neat' and 'curious' to see such parts handle the sort of stresses firearms are subjected to over a long period of time. And I'm always for improvement in technology. But how does this technology really improve the lives of people? Firearms in America are already pathetically easy to obtain. This device and others like it serve the criminal world great, by creating weapons 'off the radar' from established manufactures. Just because we have the power and knowledge to do it.....should we do it?

Devices like this one will eventually be either heavily restricted or ban all together. Once the Firearm Industry starts to loose money on sales, they will push Congress to form such laws. That or some well known politician is killed with either some or all the parts created using a device like this one.

The gentlemen in the video have good intentions. Unfortunately it doesn't take to much imagination how these tools can be used for the wrong reasons and remain under the radar.

Sorry, but devices like this have been on the market as large industrial machines for at least 20 years. The home hobbyist version that one, and only one, company has advertised as capable of making firearms parts does not change the fact that CNC machining is a common and prevalent technology. Banning something because it MIGHT be used to make something dangerous is rather paranoid in the extreme. By that same logic we would be banning things like:
Gasoline because it can be used to make hyperbaric bombs
Pressure cookers because they can be part of an IED
Cellphones because they can be used as a remote bomb trigger.
Soap because it is an ingredient in making some plastic explosives
Plumbing tools because they can be used to make pipe bombs and firearms and silencers for firearms
Screwdrivers and crow bars because they can be used as a weapon or for breaking and entering crimes.
Low power radio/receiver devices because they might be used in a bomb carrying drone aircraft.
Diesel fuel and fertilizer as they can be used to make explosive devices.
Drain cleaner because it can be used to manufacture explosives.
Charcoal because it is an ingredient to make black powder explosives

Another point I see as shown in that published video is that no one is going under the radar but demonstrating a product they wish to sell in an extremely public venue. People who hunt, people who view firearms as a hobby, and people that collect firearms, don't do so "under the radar" but right out in public along with other people with the same interests.

The nonsensical paranoia that would have us believe that anyone with skill to use a firearm or owns a firearm is instantly transformed into a slavering maniac truly gets tiresome. Oh, the slavering maniacs do exist. But handing someone a firearm is not what makes one a homicidal antisocial murderer.

Excuse my rant a bit. The continual attacks on a law abiding segment of the population are irritating, to say the least. Attacking civil liberties out of fear has led to many abuses in the past. The anti-gun rants sound so much like the rants of yesteryear fringe groups wanting miscegenation laws and classification of homosexuality as a crime make me cringe. Less because of the subject of the rants but because the concept of legislating fear into repression of freedoms sounds so much like tyranny.

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

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ORIGINAL: joether

Every piece of technology has two uses: Something that improves humanity, and something that destroys it.

With 3D printing coming in to existence, all manner of things could be produced. Some of it, that helps ease the suffering on people's lives. I know of one medical patient whom got a plastic plating designed specifically for their head. In another example, one engineer created a low cost printer that makes artificial limbs for people in Africa whom are victims of anti-personnel mines.

But to print firearm parts, feels like a destructive use of the technology. Yes, its 'neat' and 'curious' to see such parts handle the sort of stresses firearms are subjected to over a long period of time. And I'm always for improvement in technology. But how does this technology really improve the lives of people? Firearms in America are already pathetically easy to obtain. This device and others like it serve the criminal world great, by creating weapons 'off the radar' from established manufactures. Just because we have the power and knowledge to do it.....should we do it?

Devices like this one will eventually be either heavily restricted or ban all together. Once the Firearm Industry starts to loose money on sales, they will push Congress to form such laws. That or some well known politician is killed with either some or all the parts created using a device like this one.

The gentlemen in the video have good intentions. Unfortunately it doesn't take to much imagination how these tools can be used for the wrong reasons and remain under the radar.

Sorry, but devices like this have been on the market as large industrial machines for at least 20 years. The home hobbyist version that one, and only one, company has advertised as capable of making firearms parts does not change the fact that CNC machining is a common and prevalent technology. Banning something because it MIGHT be used to make something dangerous is rather paranoid in the extreme. By that same logic we would be banning things like:
Gasoline because it can be used to make hyperbaric bombs
Pressure cookers because they can be part of an IED
Cellphones because they can be used as a remote bomb trigger.
Soap because it is an ingredient in making some plastic explosives
Plumbing tools because they can be used to make pipe bombs and firearms and silencers for firearms
Screwdrivers and crow bars because they can be used as a weapon or for breaking and entering crimes.
Low power radio/receiver devices because they might be used in a bomb carrying drone aircraft.
Diesel fuel and fertilizer as they can be used to make explosive devices.
Drain cleaner because it can be used to manufacture explosives.
Charcoal because it is an ingredient to make black powder explosives

Another point I see as shown in that published video is that no one is going under the radar but demonstrating a product they wish to sell in an extremely public venue. People who hunt, people who view firearms as a hobby, and people that collect firearms, don't do so "under the radar" but right out in public along with other people with the same interests.

The nonsensical paranoia that would have us believe that anyone with skill to use a firearm or owns a firearm is instantly transformed into a slavering maniac truly gets tiresome. Oh, the slavering maniacs do exist. But handing someone a firearm is not what makes one a homicidal antisocial murderer.

Excuse my rant a bit. The continual attacks on a law abiding segment of the population are irritating, to say the least. Attacking civil liberties out of fear has led to many abuses in the past. The anti-gun rants sound so much like the rants of yesteryear fringe groups wanting miscegenation laws and classification of homosexuality as a crime make me cringe. Less because of the subject of the rants but because the concept of legislating fear into repression of freedoms sounds so much like tyranny.

. . . Why should we test in making something that doesn't advance humanity?

If what you say is true, there is no point for this device.
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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Ok, no new tech unless it advances humanity... like that insidious device that was predicted to destroy civilization called the printing press.

If we are only allowed to experiment with things that will "advance humanity"; who decides?

I'm reminded of the Luddite movement that introduced the term "sabotage" into the vocabulary from their penchant for throwing shoes into mechanical weaving machines.

A programmable milling machine priced for the hobby market is still a nifty piece of tech with many uses. And, if we go down the regulatory path where we ban things that MIGHT be used to make something you are afraid of; you would not have things like this available to the public:

http://torchmate.com/how-to-choose?gclid=CjwKEAiAg_CnBRDc1N_wuoCiwyESJABpBuMXQw4pUz0efxUb9fmbbm6eY9BdW1wIPkYwh3Lm43IrgxoCYRzw_wcB

http://www.tormach.com/tormach_pcnc_mills.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAg_CnBRDc1N_wuoCiwyESJABpBuMX7WP7SJCZUkwoB3ZQesRevLNwZzz-0QfyIwVyACH__RoCYT_w_wcB

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ORIGINAL: Aylee


As far as I know, people with metal working stuff in their home shops can already make their own firearms. These printing machines just make it faster.

In fact, I may have all the stuff to do so except for the milling machine. And those can be rented, I believe.

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

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ORIGINAL: Aylee


As far as I know, people with metal working stuff in their home shops can already make their own firearms. These printing machines just make it faster.

In fact, I may have all the stuff to do so except for the milling machine. And those can be rented, I believe.

Spot on. You grok the reason I think banning a "gun making machine" is playing silly buggers.

Now, if you have really good hand-eye coordination and a steady hand; a die grinder makes a wonderful milling machine.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


It's not just technology that troubles progressive moonbats, it's science too. Anything that might risk exposing a reality at odds with their notions of "social justice" has to be suppressed, and first on the list is that cranky idea of freedom.

Let’s give up on academic freedom... No academic question is ever “free” from political realities. If our university community opposes racism, sexism, and heterosexism, why should we put up with research that counters our goals simply in the name of “academic freedom”?

Source: The Harvard Crimson

K.

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43
And Still you are blind and deaf to the reality. The devices are here, have been here and won't go away. NO tool using mind ever forgets or won't use an effective tool. Learning, like boiling an egg, isn't reversible. Only the few, damaged by ideology and faith, can be Amish.

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43
If there really was comprehension of the technologies and their true results, you'd see they are a serious realization to Progressive goals and desires, the democratization of production and supply. The localization of production and design is the necessary counterpart of localizing energy generation. An actual counter to the concentration of power, energy, wealth and production that has only accelerated since the start of the Industrial Revolution. Interconnectivity only has meaning if concepts and ideas can be realized by individuals or small groups and communities. Multi-nationals are by design repressive and expansive. Much like organ cancers.

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43
Any disruptive technology scares the panties off some. Only the true intelligences see where the opportunities lie. Everyone else follows once the trail blazers show a path. This has already become an irreversible flood of humans towards these technologies, Keep Up!

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


Its clear you do know what the fuck your [sic] babbling about.

Freud would be amused.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata
Its clear you do know what the fuck your [sic] babbling about.

Freud would be amused.