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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/25/2015 6:37:01 AM   
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Heres one so offended hes making it into a ballot initiative in cali
http://www.vox.com/2015/3/22/8270411/california-lgbt-executions



A California lawyer proposed a ballot initiative to legalize the execution of gay and lesbian people in the state.
The measure isn't expected to end up on the ballot, since it's clearly unconstitutional, but it's drawing attention to California's bizarre ballot initiative process.
California's attorney general is likely required by law to clear the initiative. But the state's Supreme Court is likely to step in and stop the measure, particularly if the proposal gets enough signatures to qualify for the ballot.

The measure would authorize the killing of gay and lesbian Californians


Orange County attorney Matt McLaughlin paid the $200 filing fee on February 26 to submit the Sodomite Suppression Act to voters on November 2016.

The proposal has no chance of becoming law, since it's unconstitutional and would most likely never get approval from California voters, but it's drawn national attention because its provisions are so abhorrent and extreme.

As the San Francisco Chronicle and Sacramento Bee reported, the proposal would require the execution of anyone who touches a person of the same sex for sexual gratification by "bullets to the head or by any other convenient method." It declares that it's "better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath." Private citizens would be allowed to step in to act as executioners if the state didn't within a year, meaning that the murder of gay and lesbian people would effectively be legalized.

The measure would also make it illegal, with the threat of a $1 million fine, up to 10 years in prison, and permanent expulsion from the state, to advocate for gay rights to an audience that includes minors. And it would require posting the measure's language prominently in public school classrooms.

The initiative specifies that its constitutionality could only be decided by a California Supreme Court that doesn't include LGBT justices and their supporters, but that portion would only be true if the measure passed.
The proposal very likely won't pass, but it's drawing attention to California's initiative process

Kamala Harris

California Attorney General Kamala Harris probably has to grant the initiative a title and summary. (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images News)

In California, ballot initiative sponsors pay a $200 filing fee for their measure, the attorney general gives it a title and summary, supporters collect more than 365,000 signatures, and, if all that's successful, California votes on it.

California Attorney General Kamala Harris, who's considering a Senate run in 2016, appears to have no options for blocking the measure. Legal experts told the San Francisco Chronicle and Sacramento Bee that the attorney general is required by law to provide a title and summary for proposed ballot measures once someone pays the $200 filing fee.

This setup, legal experts said, prevents elected attorneys general from interfering with citizen-proposed ballot initiatives that they disagree with politically. Instead, more politically impartial judges are able to decide the constitutionality of proposed measures.

The California Supreme Court could, and is, expected to step in to block the proposal if it gets too far in the process. The measure violates constitutional due process protections for people who commit private, consensual sexual activity, and it tries to unconstitutionally limit people's free-speech rights with multiple provisions that would try to stop certain forms of LGBT advocacy.



that not a school or a group complaining and whinging, sorry, it will backfire on him....just like creative dominats "link"
Hang on IM gonna go find the link to the poor chap who wants to use wolves to get rid off the homeless in his city, oh sorry....state



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rep-don-youngs-solution-to-the-homeless-problem-wolves/

Alaska Rep. Don Young has settled on a novel solution to the problem of homelessness: wolves.

Young, a long-serving Republican with a history of odd commentary, discussed the idea during an exchange on Thursday with Interior Secretary Sally Jewell, who was testifying before the House Natural Resources Committee about her department's budget.

Young has been pushing for the Interior Department to remove the gray wolf from the endangered species list, and during the hearing, he ridiculed a letter sent by 79 lawmakers to Jewell urging her to protect the gray wolf population.

"How many of you have got wolves in your district?" Young asked the other lawmakers on the panel. "None. Not one."

"They haven't got a damn wolf in their whole district," he added. "I'd like to introduce them in your district. If I introduced them in your district, you wouldn't have a homeless problem anymore."

It's not clear whether Young was suggesting the wolves could eat the homeless population -- perhaps he expects the homeless to make tents out of wolf hides.

Young has a reputation for off-color remarks. Last October, he told students at an Alaska high school that some suicides are due to a lack of support from friends and family. The remark, which came just days after a student at the school took his own life, was met with outrage from students and faculty, and Young was quickly forced to apologize.

And in 2013, Young reminisced in a radio interview about the "50 to 60 wetbacks" who picked tomatoes at his father's ranch when he was younger. He apologized for that remark as well, saying the term was "commonly used" during his childhood and that he "meant no disrespect."



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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/25/2015 8:10:16 AM   
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What happened to live and let live. Also the saying "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."


at first I was going to try something humorous like "liberals were allowed to reproduce" or "we let liberals stay in the country" but then this probably works better:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

despite all their hoopla about "tolerance" liberals don't come from a live and let live perspective. if they don't like something, they work through use of force to eliminate it for everyone.

(watch for instance the nasty names, insults and curses that will follow this post. I hope I am wrong, but I highly doubt I will be.)

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/25/2015 8:57:43 AM   
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What happened to live and let live. Also the saying "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."


at first I was going to try something humorous like "liberals were allowed to reproduce" or "we let liberals stay in the country" but then this probably works better:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

despite all their hoopla about "tolerance" liberals don't come from a live and let live perspective. if they don't like something, they work through use of force to eliminate it for everyone.

(watch for instance the nasty names, insults and curses that will follow this post. I hope I am wrong, but I highly doubt I will be.)


Liberals tend to come from a perspective of remembering some of the hard-fought battles in the area of civil rights and other social reforms where they were up against some manifest opposition that might also be characterized as "a totalitarian screaming to get out." I'll agree that "political correctness" (or whatever someone wants to call it) might seem a bit irritating and disingenuous - and liberals can sometimes pick some strange battles. On the other hand, nobody ever died from "political correctness." To suggest that it's "totalitarian" may be overstating the matter.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/25/2015 9:06:32 AM   
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What happened to live and let live. Also the saying "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."


at first I was going to try something humorous like "liberals were allowed to reproduce" or "we let liberals stay in the country" but then this probably works better:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

despite all their hoopla about "tolerance" liberals don't come from a live and let live perspective. if they don't like something, they work through use of force to eliminate it for everyone.

(watch for instance the nasty names, insults and curses that will follow this post. I hope I am wrong, but I highly doubt I will be.)

You claim that you would prefer to avoid personal insults yet post meaningless cliches and provocations such as "inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out." That bit of cretinous gibberish makes as much sense as its corollary "inside every right winger is a fascist screaming to get out." Neither claim has any validity yet it is exactly the kind of stupid generalisation that drags a discussion straight down into the gutter.

If you want high standards, display them yourself in the first instance. That requires you to cease posting such passive-aggressive kindergarten level nonsense.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/25/2015 9:36:32 AM   
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oh god, we have had claims from him like liberals are like ISIS, liberals are like nazis, and now totalitarian, PPLLUUUUUSSSSSS
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"at first I was going to try something humorous like "liberals were allowed to reproduce" or "we let liberals stay in the country" but then this probably works better:

But doesnt seem to understand why people wont put up with his BS claims and respond in the same tone that he uses to throw his ignorance out.








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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/25/2015 11:56:28 AM   
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To suggest that it's "totalitarian" may be overstating the matter.


You're very, very much understating that point.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/25/2015 6:49:06 PM   
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Local students protest ‘sexist’ billboard

Some local students gathered in Newtonville on Tuesday to protest a billboard featuring a kitchen they claim to be sexist . . . Siena student Delaney Rivers said in an e-mail “[The billboard] implies that men are the primary financial supporters of women and that women are materialistic and portrayed as having no other value outside of the kitchen.

Here's the offensive billboard that has the students upset...



News10 contacted Teakwood for a response to the protest...

A vast majority of Teakwood’s clients are women. Frequently they are the decision makers about major expenditures . . . We applaud the students involved in the protest for their excitement about their cause. And we thank them for drawing attention to the gorgeous Teakwood kitchen on the billboard.

More at the link.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/25/2015 7:53:41 PM   
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~ FR ~

Local students protest ‘sexist’ billboard

Some local students gathered in Newtonville on Tuesday to protest a billboard featuring a kitchen they claim to be sexist . . . Siena student Delaney Rivers said in an e-mail “[The billboard] implies that men are the primary financial supporters of women and that women are materialistic (They're not ?) and portrayed as having no other value outside of the kitchen (Of course they have value, outside of the kitchen. I want them to fuck me, in every other room in the house!).

Here's the offensive billboard that has the students upset...



News10 contacted Teakwood for a response to the protest...

A vast majority of Teakwood’s clients are women. Frequently they are the decision makers about major expenditures . . . We applaud the students involved in the protest for their excitement about their cause. And we thank them for drawing attention to the gorgeous Teakwood kitchen on the billboard.

More at the link.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 4:51:48 AM   
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ive not been following the thread intimately, so this might have already been said, but even so, its probably worth repeating.

two things go on with the perpetually offended.

one is a sort of self-infantilizing. since we don't have a right to not be offended, its a self centered way of saying the world has to change in order to adapt to my inability to be a grown-up.

secondly, and this flows from the first, its an attempt to control and stifle speech.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 8:58:26 AM   
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my first thought about the ad is that it highlights men not caring all that much about kitchens...and I think, rightly, pointing out that more women than men do.

while at the same time, appealing to the notion that men enjoy caring for/providing for women...

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 9:06:11 AM   
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my first thought about the ad is that it highlights men not caring all that much about kitchens...and I think, rightly, pointing out that more women than men do.

while at the same time, appealing to the notion that men enjoy caring for/providing for women...

I don't know...no matter how right that may be, the fact that it is right and you're aware of it sounds vaguely sexist to me.

Misogynist.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 10:37:18 AM   
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Judith Shulevitz, writes in the New York Times, on the increasing infantilization of college students:

Safe spaces are an expression of the conviction, increasingly prevalent among college students, that their schools should keep them from being “bombarded” by discomfiting or distressing viewpoints. Think of the safe space as the live-action version of the better-known trigger warning, a notice put on top of a syllabus or an assigned reading to alert students to the presence of potentially disturbing material. . . .

the notion that ticklish conversations must be scrubbed clean of controversy has a way of leaking out and spreading. Once you designate some spaces as safe, you imply that the rest are unsafe. It follows that they should be made safer. . . .

while keeping college-level discussions “safe” may feel good to the hypersensitive, it’s bad for them and for everyone else. People ought to go to college to sharpen their wits and broaden their field of vision. Shield them from unfamiliar ideas, and they’ll never learn the discipline of seeing the world as other people see it. They’ll be unprepared for the social and intellectual headwinds that will hit them as soon as they step off the campuses whose climates they have so carefully controlled. What will they do when they hear opinions they’ve learned to shrink from? If they want to change the world, how will they learn to persuade people to join them?

Or, put another way, how will they grow up?

Three comments:

1) It’s not entirely clear how prevalent this phenomenon is. The demand for insulating students from potentially upsetting ideas does, for the moment, appears to come from a vocal minority and does not appear to have widespread support. Yet isn’t that always how these sorts of things start? And isn’t it well established that a vocal and highly motivated minority interest group can have an outsized influence on institutional policies?

2) Efforts to insulate students from challenging and even potentially offensive ideas cuts them off from the world and compromises much of the value of a traditional “liberal” education. It’s like some want to turn universities into the secular equivalents of Ave Maria Town.

3) One of the benefits of having been right-of-center in college was that my political and philosophical views were constantly challenged. There was no “safe space” — and I was better for it. I often felt that I received a better education than many of my peers precisely because I was not able to hold unchallenged assumptions or adopt unquestioned premises.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/22/infants-in-college/


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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 10:51:02 AM   
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So basically the perpetually offended are those who believe that people in various higher education intitutions have too much time defending what they see as iimportant to them.
wont follow what went before, want to do somehing to change a wrong they perceive.
How offensive.
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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 10:57:32 AM   
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So basically the perpetually offended are those who believe that people in various higher education intitutions have too much time defending what they see as iimportant to them.
wont follow what went before, want to do somehing to change a wrong they perceive.
How offensive.
poor things
damn kids get off my lawn

Yep, that's it Lucy. Go back to sleep now.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 11:00:06 AM   
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my first thought about the ad is that it highlights men not caring all that much about kitchens...and I think, rightly, pointing out that more women than men do.

while at the same time, appealing to the notion that men enjoy caring for/providing for women...

A line that I didn't quote from Teakwood's response reads:

This billboard – and the entire “Your wife wants me” campaign is good-natured, tongue in cheek fun meant to appeal to women who have a sense of humor, a sense of history and healthy self-esteem.

K.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 11:04:36 AM   
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ive not been following the thread intimately, so this might have already been said, but even so, its probably worth repeating.

two things go on with the perpetually offended.

one is a sort of self-infantilizing. since we don't have a right to not be offended, its a self centered way of saying the world has to change in order to adapt to my inability to be a grown-up.

secondly, and this flows from the first, its an attempt to control and stifle speech.


My first thoughts when reading that were about McCarthy and the HUAC. Hmm.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 11:14:15 AM   
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quote:

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So basically the perpetually offended are those who believe that people in various higher education intitutions have too much time defending what they see as iimportant to them.
wont follow what went before, want to do somehing to change a wrong they perceive.
How offensive.
poor things
damn kids get off my lawn

Yep, that's it Lucy. Go back to sleep now.

K.



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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 11:23:29 AM   
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Judith Shulevitz, writes in the New York Times, on the increasing infantilization of college students:

Safe spaces are an expression of the conviction, increasingly prevalent among college students, that their schools should keep them from being “bombarded” by discomfiting or distressing viewpoints. Think of the safe space as the live-action version of the better-known trigger warning, a notice put on top of a syllabus or an assigned reading to alert students to the presence of potentially disturbing material. . . .


Wrong. Safe spaces were introduced as a measure to provide those being bullied threatened and/or harassed in public places a safe place where they could be free from such anti-social behaviour.

If you are uncomfortable with the idea of safe spaces, the best way to get rid of them is to get rid of the behaviours that create the need for them in the first place. Your post makes it appear that you are railing against the effect and ignoring the cause, which is getting things precisely the wrong way around.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 11:56:49 AM   
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Wrong. Safe spaces were introduced as a measure to provide those being bullied threatened and/or harassed in public places a safe place where they could be free from such anti-social behaviour.

Try and catch up before you make yourself look any sillier with your social justice propaganda.

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If you are uncomfortable with the idea of safe spaces, the best way to get rid of them is to get rid of the behaviours that create the need for them in the first place.

Like academic freedom and an open exchange of ideas . . . yeah, we should get right on that.

Let’s give up on academic freedom in favor of justice

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 3/26/2015 12:05:37 PM   
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and the proof just keeps on mounting.


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