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RE: Paid membership for Collarspace.com - 3/14/2015 4:56:07 AM

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Much revenue is already made through advertizers. The membership would decline and the advertizers go elsewhere if such a policy was adopted as paid membership. Those websites that charge membership often give a bad service and are contemtious of client members. Why pay to be booted off a website on some pretext by a person paid are volunteering too be a moderator when you can get it done for free?

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RE: Paid membership for Collarspace.com - 3/14/2015 6:43:52 AM

DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: HVF

There is already been a discussion ( http://www.collarchat.com/m_91092/tm.htm ) about to make this wonderfull website a paid website.

Hopefully the owner of this website would also reply.

I'm boring of all the people who write to me and they are no serious but mostly I think they are fakers.

Examples: After receiving a e-mail, there profile could be not found.
To this people I would say: GET A LIFE !

Another example: when I reply that I would meet them with a webcam and chat on Skype (magic word!) then they never reply.

Therefore I'm sure that are Here more fakers then serious people.

I got an idea to solve this problem.

If You wanted to write the first letter to someone that it cost $ 10, only for the first e-mail.
Then after the first e-mail, you can reply and have contact so much that you wanted without any payment with this member.

I would advice that we pay $ 30 in advance for 3 e-mails and that you can connect with 3 different members ( 10 $ each for the first e-mail )

This is my idea that solve the problem with fakers.

How do members and the owner about this idea?

Sincerely,

Mistress Constancia

Mistress Constancia, you have combined two steps into one here. You first assumed everyone else was bothered by the same thing you are, and then you proposed a solution while under that assumption.

Your problem is unique to women (and possibly gay men and couples) in that it consists of people who write and then do not follow up. We men almost always initiate.

When someone writes you and then the profile is gone, it likely means that some guy wrote 200 messages on his first day. He got no responses at all except the site telling him he's been spamming and to quit sending out messages. So he decided the site wasn't for him and quit. Whatever the back story, someone quit the site.

If someone refuses to Skype or webcam, it could be several reasons. They may not have them and don't want to install them. They may be married/taken. Or, very likely, they've been burned by being directed to a paid camgirl site before and think you're running another scam.

In other words, I don't think these men would be considered "fakes".

I'm not sure that these things bother others. My guess is that if you polled others about their issues with the other side, men's biggest concerns would be women that do not reply to an initial message. And women's biggest concerns would be men that spammed without reading profiles. men who claimed to be Doms or subs but simply wanted sex, and men who were cheating. In other words, other issues.

If you were to charge to send messages, you would be in a similar situation to alt.com when it transitioned from being a free site to having members pay when they wanted to accomplish anything. It used to be the only kink meetup site on the Internet, and it thrived. But it now is a laughingstock that is largely irrelevant.

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ORIGINAL: familyownedslave

Much revenue is already made through advertizers. The membership would decline and the advertizers go elsewhere if such a policy was adopted as paid membership. Those websites that charge membership often give a bad service and are contemtious of client members. Why pay to be booted off a website on some pretext by a person paid are volunteering too be a moderator when you can get it done for free?

Another good point. If a site is supported by advertisers, it will give away memberships so as to have the largest customer base possible. Changing from that to a paying-member policy is a huge gamble and somewhat traumatic - all the advertisers will leave when the inevitable membership drop hits, and the membership will drop drastically. If I joined a site when there were 20,000 women on it and then two months later after I pay, there are 200 of them, I'll be livid and not renew.

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RE: Paid membership for Collarspace.com - 3/15/2015 10:56:15 AM

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I would not pay for this site. Maybe if they made some VAST improvements in regards to how it is run, monitored and the like but now? No way.

I am here mainly for the forums, I however don't really care for the other side much at all.

As for $10.00 to e-mail someone? No, Just No.

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RE: Paid membership for Collarspace.com - 3/15/2015 12:10:12 PM

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Paid sites MIGHT sometimes work in metropolitan areas. In rural areas and mainly rural states it would be a total waste of money for a man to join a paid site. I've seen this to be true not only on kink sites, but "vanilla" sites as well. I just did a quick search for my state for the number of women in the age range of 18-66. Here is the results:

Dominant women: 6
Slave women: 5
Switch women: 4
Submissive women: 20 (and this included many women also listed in the "slave" and "switch" categories.)

Why would a man want to pay when there is a definite lack of women to contact? That's like going to a restaurant and having to pay just to see an empty menu! And (LOL) the idea of having to pay $10 just to send a letter to one of those people when what you get in return is the good ol' "Well, no response IS a response!" That's frustrating enough even when it is free to try to contact them!

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RE: Paid membership for Collarspace.com - 3/16/2015 1:52:31 PM

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The reality is the owner makes more money from ad revenues from a free site than if they went to a membership. The sheer volume of people is the money maker. Without the volume, the money for advertising dwindles greatly.

And have you ever joined a pay site? Just as many fakes there is there are here. Actually most generate fake profiles to attract members.

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RE: Paid membership for Collarspace.com - 3/16/2015 2:02:08 PM

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Honestly I fare better on other sites as far as finding subs. I am mostly here for the forums for the time being. Most boys on the other side think Lifestyle Domme means FREE DOMME, lol. They have no idea we actually want a full on commitment to our kink vs scratching their kink itch for an hour and going separate ways. But this site is very blended as we already know, people are all over the spectrum and I think this site would be good for the Fin Dommes in particular, for every one sub who complains is another 20 who expect some cam to cam time. I am faring pretty well on vanilla sites alternatively. Vanilla boys are not hard to please and easy to get, that's for sure. I am also connecting pretty well with kinksters on nilla sites. I have already shared a "so two Dominants walk into a bar..." joke with someone on one of them.

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RE: Paid membership for Collarspace.com - 3/16/2015 2:53:43 PM

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Mistress Constancia, there is no doubt in my mind that many paid sites are littered with dummy profiles (as Nitewing0001 noted), in addition to inactive profiles. That's why any statistics of male:female ratios or any other kind of categorizations are not reliable data, or may only be indicative of trends in targeting new members (with both paid and free sites).

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Honestly I fare better on other sites as far as finding subs.

Most boys on the other side think Lifestyle Domme means FREE DOMME, lol.

I've been faring about the same. Slightly better on vanilla sites. Definitely better in terms of dating or meeting up beforehand, and often the vanilla men are more honest about their intentions (which isn't saying much).

Not only does lifestyle Domme mean free Topping to a lot of male submissives, but imo it's worse as a switch for those who expect no-strings-attached free Topping along with a buffet of kinky sex -- by subs, switches and Doms alike.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

They have no idea we actually want a full on commitment to our kink vs scratching their kink itch for an hour and going separate ways. But this site is very blended as we already know, people are all over the spectrum and I think this site would be good for the Fin Dommes in particular, for every one sub who complains is another 20 who expect some cam to cam time.

Not so much here, but I have run into countless Doms who have been service Tops to their submissive or pseudo-submissive partner, and might be considered more of a Dom-leaning switch. Both here and there, I get approached by many Doms who are burnt out by the neediness of their own do-me subs; and this is not often because they already knew that I'm a switch, but thought I was a Domme.

I'd say it's pretty evenly distributed among all kinds of men on the prowl, hoping to get (free) cam time, phone sex, or both.

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RE: Paid membership for Collarspace.com - 3/16/2015 3:08:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: dreamlady

Mistress Constancia, there is no doubt in my mind that many paid sites are littered with dummy profiles (as Nitewing0001 noted), in addition to inactive profiles. That's why any statistics of male:female ratios or any other kind of categorizations are not reliable data, or may only be indicative of trends in targeting new members (with both paid and free sites).

Agreed though typically in my case they're east to spot.

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I've been faring about the same. Slightly better on vanilla sites. Definitely better in terms of dating or meeting up beforehand, and often the vanilla men are more honest about their intentions (which isn't saying much).

Not only does lifestyle Domme mean free Topping to a lot of male submissives, but imo it's worse as a switch for those who expect no-strings-attached free Topping along with a buffet of kinky sex -- by subs, switches and Doms alike.

LOL this makes so much sense. I like some of the nilla sites, I friendzone anyone who's local and we get to do fun outdoorsy things in the interim. Better than having cam time with some random naked guy in Belgium, LOL. Sort of just waiting for that "ah-hah" moment but yea, many people get disillusioned quickly by the sites. My issue has always been geography, they're always so far, so busy or what have you.

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Not so much here, but I have run into countless Doms who have been service Tops to their submissive or pseudo-submissive partner, and might be considered more of a Dom-leaning switch. Both here and there, I get approached by many Doms who are burnt out by the neediness of their own do-me subs; and this is not often because they already knew that I'm a switch, but thought I was a Domme.

I'd say it's pretty evenly distributed among all kinds of men on the prowl, hoping to get (free) cam time, phone sex, or both.

DreamLady

This makes total and absolute sense. I think fundamentally many people are more into the kink, maybe moreso than the actual power exchange on both sides ergo the popularity of funishment vs edgier play. It makes sense to play in the "safe zone" if that's the zone of comfort. However I do get contacted by men not even in this country and I'm kind of wondering if they expect me to be satisfied domming remotely with no end to collar.If you don't want collar fine, pay to play then. *shrug* Simplifies everyone's lives and it's not a ton of cash, nothing to write home about anyway.
ETA, you know what's funny? I can also tell men from women right away even if a man tries to pose as a woman. It's so blaringly obvious for me and I call them out on it every time. This guy once said "so?" And this other "sub female" (man) accused me of being fake. It's when I started watermarking my pictures.

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RE: Paid membership for Collarspace.com - 3/16/2015 5:55:43 PM

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I belong to several paid dating sites and the response rate is about the same as the free ones. The women I've chatted with on the paid sites all complain how men just want sex, are pervs, irresponsible, etc.

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