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Sub Drop - 3/14/2015 12:47:13 PM

IcarusBurning

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Curious about whats the worst that has happened, and what do you really wish a master / dominant knew about sub drop or how to react when you are going through one..?

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RE: Sub Drop - 3/15/2015 9:13:53 AM

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Worst? I've gotten sad and mopey and just kinda blah about life. This has really only happened after really intense scenes though and Master has always been good about taking care of me during and after. I haven't really expected anyone I've played with before to know exactly how to handle it because everyone needs different things.

The only thing I'd recommend across the board is getting the bottom to eat something sugary afterwards, it's what your body uses to make endorphins and will help you build them back up a bit faster.

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RE: Sub Drop - 3/15/2015 11:53:54 AM

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It's different for everything.
My guy can tell if I've gone down too far, is reassuring, redirecting, and will get me something carby to get me going again. It rarely happens with us anymore.

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RE: Sub Drop - 3/16/2015 2:26:56 PM

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Worst has been any time I've had to drive after play. That plunges me into later on weeping uncontrollably. To a point that if I have to drive somewhere after, I won't play. I'm not willing to be unable to focus while operating a 3,000 lb automobile, putting myself and everyone else on the road at risk.

What people should know is that the better shape you are going in, the better shape coming out.

If you haven't eaten properly, are dehydrated, already sleep deprived then expect a bad result. Basically if you wouldn't think of running a marathon because of not being in shape, don't play either.

We're talking about all kinds of body and brain chemicals here; blood sugar, endorphin, dopamine, serotonin and a ton of others I can neither spell nor accurately explain what they do. You're planning to exhaust all of them to well below normal levels. Expect that it will take a day or more for them to recover.

And then comes aftercare. Discuss it. Discuss what both parties need, because tops exhaust chemicals as well as bottoms. Discuss if you're okay providing the aftercare that the other person has learned they need. If you're not, don't play knowing you will deliberately be leaving them in poor condition which will take that much longer to rectify.

And keep some chocolate around. Because a handful of chocolate chips at the right time, when you're teetering on the edge of a drop can be enough to ward it off. And that's a lot better than plunging and having to slowly swim back to the surface.

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RE: Sub Drop - 3/16/2015 2:54:45 PM

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Aftercare is important to prevent this. I have never dommed someone and just sent them on their way, we gotta have ice cream first at the very least.

One sub in particular was pretty hilarious, we went to a strip club together and hung in the VIP area, nothing too taboo or crazy but I swear he thinks my domming experience is the most memorable thing of his life, he still checks up on me years later and he's still in a state of perpetual bachelorhood and obsessed with his kids (who are now in college, move on with your life). I don't get it though, it wasn't anything too wild and it was one of my most brief encounters.

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RE: Sub Drop - 3/16/2015 3:25:20 PM

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I don't get sub drop.

I do get orgasm drop really badly though, and it gets worst the longer the denial has gone on. Last episode, after a few weeks of denial, we broke it for my birthday and the next day it was like I had the world's worst case of PMT. I remember literally sobbing over my keyboard at home because I couldn't get a powerpoint presentation to do 'disappear on click' and the help guide was an infomercial type video, which I can't bear, and it didn't work anyway.

Anyhoo, we're over that now! But if anyone needs to know how to do 'disappear on click' in a random order on ppt, just let me know :-)

Another time, a Dom foolishly broke my 11 month denial run and I turned into the brat from hell. I shouted at him when he was trying to punish me and then called him a wimp and ordered him to get it over and done with, which he obediently did, and then afterwards I dumped him. When I look back now, it was sorta hilarious because he was such a raging uber-sadist control freak, I must have been in one hell of a bad mood to control him like I did.

It's really not a good idea to break my denial unless you have a padded room and a supply of junk food available! Personally, I blame the hormones.

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RE: Sub Drop - 3/16/2015 10:05:12 PM

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Never had it... im not really an after care type, im the I take care of me you take care of you type.... I can only think of one instance I was freaking out and that was because I tried depo and I spent a week crying in the corner until he got home, couldn't sleep, wanted to kill whoever touched me.... and the week before I took the shot I had been my normals self hopping around joking about how I cant get the pieces of me out of the paddle's wood grain. When im hurt or in a mood I just want to be left alone until I feel myself again. I tend to respond like a cornered animal, if im sick and people won't leave me alone.

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RE: Sub Drop - 4/22/2015 10:56:22 PM

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After orgasming I lose all interest in Femdom and begin to feel absolutely depressed about fetishes to the point where it encourages suicide. I really, really, REALLY, hate sub dropping, but such is life under the laws of chemistry and biology.

There you go.

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RE: Sub Drop - 4/23/2015 3:21:44 AM

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quote:

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After orgasming I lose all interest in Femdom and begin to feel absolutely depressed about fetishes to the point where it encourages suicide. I really, really, REALLY, hate sub dropping, but such is life under the laws of chemistry and biology.

There you go.

Hmmm. This is a pretty serious swing. Have you considered researching moods and possible natural supplements, or talking to a professional about it?

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RE: Sub Drop - 4/23/2015 12:27:06 PM

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The worst that has happened to me is running a fever. I prefer to not be fussed over. There isn't much he could do when I've had sub drop except to get me the Tylenol.

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RE: Sub Drop - 4/23/2015 12:58:02 PM

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This was more of an issue when playing with someone I loved very much and he suddenly was snowed under at work. Really we should have eased off the play a little.
But we instead fell into the trap of trying to 'make up for' the time we were missing out on by playing harder than ever on the rare occasions we could meet up at all. But then of course work would come calling so we were having wonderful intense playtimes of many hours, pushing limits, trying new things, really exploring all of our darkest fantasies... followed by a quick cuddle, sleep then him rushing off back to work the next morning.
It was like running up a debt.
Eventually the lack of proper aftercare floored me.
And I felt like I was abandoned, used, absolutely devastated that he didn't want me any more... it was like the world had just ended.
Not clever.
Whatever effort you put into the play, you need to put into the care after it.
I have learned my lesson!

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RE: Sub Drop - 4/24/2015 9:00:05 AM

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I used to get it fierce, almost depression like. While I still do it is not as bad. It never seemed to matter about level of aftercare or anything like that. One thing I would recommend to anyone who has major drop after orgasm, request to not. I've never felt like an orgasm changed my enjoyment after one way or another.

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RE: Sub Drop - 4/28/2015 10:04:31 AM

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I don't usually get it , I have a few times i ger shaky and sad Master has learned to have some chocholate and water close at had , me i need to be touched and cuddled and Master is great with the aftercare. I would be a lot wore off without the aftercare.

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RE: Sub Drop - 4/28/2015 12:15:05 PM

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The worst is when sub drop is ignored.

Obviously.

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RE: Sub Drop - 4/28/2015 4:08:01 PM

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Sub drop is not fun. Aftercare is too important for me. I wouldn't even want to do any kink, unless aftercare comes after.

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RE: Sub Drop - 4/28/2015 5:12:01 PM

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Eh, crying through a weekend and generally feeling worthless for the duration. There is no advice that I'd be willing to give because everyone wants to handle it differently. Immediately after a scene I don't wanna be touched so anyone suggesting cuddles may be losing some digits. Mostly what I look for to avoid drop when I have it is I wanna know the other person enjoyed what we did and appreciates me, I want to know that I did alright and that we're okay. Just simple displays of caring.

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RE: Sub Drop - 6/5/2015 9:17:41 PM

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I was in the middle of it when he told me it was time for me to go home. He refused to allow me any more time to come out of it. It took me an hour to go 30 miles. Stopping to cry, scream and cry some more. I later found out he had another coming over and didn't want to deal with me being in sub drop. He now swears she was just a friend and needed to talk but she got to spend the night? Hence why we aren't together anymore.

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RE: Sub Drop - 6/6/2015 3:42:08 PM

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I'm lucky, Daddy's aftercare is exceptional, I don't get subdrop as such, he sort of eases me out of subspace slowly and gently, no matter how deep I have gone. Coming out can take a long time for me, with trembling, whimpering and an almost lack of ability to uncurl, but he just wraps me in a blanket and seems to know intrinsically what I need. the closest I get to subdrop is more like separation anxiety when its a day or 3 that we can't see each other, but thats really just me missing him cos I'm crazy in love, lol.

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RE: Sub Drop - 6/8/2015 6:55:57 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IcarusBurning

Curious about whats the worst that has happened, and what do you really wish a master / dominant knew about sub drop or how to react when you are going through one..?

Dominants "get it"...not sure why but, they do.

Don't need to explain it to them.

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RE: Sub Drop - 7/7/2015 9:25:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CagedBoyfriend

After orgasming I lose all interest in Femdom and begin to feel absolutely depressed about fetishes to the point where it encourages suicide. I really, really, REALLY, hate sub dropping, but such is life under the laws of chemistry and biology.

There you go.

I go through something similar when I have an endorphin drop - massively depressed, withdrawn, and sometimes suicidal. The drop just hits on a trigger and I'm like that for a week or so after playing. I saw a therapist and I'm getting evened out with medication so I can still enjoy the play that I do without all of the feelings of 'blahhh' afterwards.

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