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JVoV -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 8:45:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gauge


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I'd be more concerned about travelling to the Middle East than sending a gift.



Thank you. You beat me to it.

This is totally a red flag and I would really have a good think as to why you cannot find someone from your own country. Not saying not to go, but you need to proceed very, very carefully, because you will be in another country, knowing exactly no one, and if you cannot see how risky that is, I don't know what else to say.


I was thinking more of how hard it is to walk in the sand in heels, but what you said makes sense too.



shiftyw -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 8:46:43 PM)

OP- can I ask if you can not afford gender reassignment surgery? and that is why you are taking this route?

I TOTALLY hear how obnoxious and none of my business that is- and you don't have to answer. I think you have to be really careful of people taking advantage of you and luring you in with promises of that- when someone is so emotionally tied to something they can not afford themselves- it is a situation in which people can easily take advantage of someone- it isn't fair- in fact its down right shitty- but don't let your desire for whatever surgery this is negate your common sense and if you have a strange feeling- its best to follow that instinct.

Also in the Middle East? No customs I've heard of talk about gift giving and certainly nothing that large. I also think you need to proceed with strong caution given how much you would pay to fly there, and how dangerous it would be to meet a stranger in a place where you don't know anyone. I think there are some really dangerous things that could happen.



MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 9:05:18 PM)

Quick Reply: Generally, it seems to me, that submissive males offer tribute (gifts) to Dommes. Female submissives offer themselves as the tribute and the dom will often buy pretty things for her.

This is by no means universal, but very common.



JVoV -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 9:10:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

Quick Reply: Generally, it seems to me, that submissive males offer tribute (gifts) to Dommes. Female submissives offer themselves as the tribute and the dom will often buy pretty things for her.

This is by no means universal, but very common.



And in the LGBT community, all bets are off.



DaddySatyr -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 9:21:38 PM)


I thought Malcolm was going to get there ...

Why can't a dominant be demanding tribute? Is it only "okay" if a Domme does it?



Michael



shiftyw -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 9:23:50 PM)

i don't think that is a helpful tangent here DS, perhaps start another thread.

If you'd read the rest of the thread you'd see- this is not about that.



Lucylastic -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 9:24:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: Gauge


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I'd be more concerned about travelling to the Middle East than sending a gift.



Thank you. You beat me to it.

This is totally a red flag and I would really have a good think as to why you cannot find someone from your own country. Not saying not to go, but you need to proceed very, very carefully, because you will be in another country, knowing exactly no one, and if you cannot see how risky that is, I don't know what else to say.


I was thinking more of how hard it is to walk in the sand in heels, but what you said makes sense too.

You just made me smirk, thankyou!



MissToYouRedux -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 9:26:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Why can't a dominant be demanding tribute? Is it only "okay" if a Domme does it?

Michael[/color]


Anyone can demand anything. Actually getting whatever's demanded is something else entirely.



DaddySatyr -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 9:54:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MissToYouRedux

Anyone can demand anything. Actually getting whatever's demanded is something else entirely.



Point well taken and, if it weren't protected as a "kink", around here, I would recommend that NO ONE give tribute to ANYONE, but that isn't the case.

I was just suggesting that perhaps this particular dominant had decided that he wanted in on some of the potential gravy that the females seem to enjoy. He can expect anything he likes, as you rightly pointed out; getting what he expects is another matter, altogether.



Michael



Oldmis2 -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 9:56:57 PM)

If he can pay for plastic surgery, why would he need gifts from you? Anyone and everyone can purchase electronics if they have the means. Sounds like bs to me.



MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 9:58:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

Quick Reply: Generally, it seems to me, that submissive males offer tribute (gifts) to Dommes. Female submissives offer themselves as the tribute and the dom will often buy pretty things for her.

This is by no means universal, but very common.



And in the LGBT community, all bets are off.



You are right. I said "generally" but I didn't include LGBT and the OP is the T part of that.



Gauge -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 10:48:20 PM)

This is a fast reply.

The fact that the OP is transgendered makes things much, much worse with traveling to the Middle East. They take a dim view of that sort of thing.



tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/22/2015 11:20:01 PM)

Okay OP, so you're pre-op transgendered, this o so wonderful guy wants you to fly 1/2 around the world, where you will have the surgery, I'm guessing in a Middle Eastern Country? And this doesn't ring any alarm bells in your head? No red flags? Please excuse my pessimism, this is not one day surgery, you usually have to go through a battery of psychological testing, also a long drawn out process.

Not having any more info on you, I don't know if you've even started the process. If it's to be done there, have you researched any hospitals or medical facilities that perform the surgery and the psychological aspect? What are the sanitary conditions like? Will you receive the proper care? How is this being paid for? In advance by the guy? Or on a payment plan where you may be left holding the bag?

Where will you recuperate? Will you have the necessary medical treatment there? What guarantees do you have that he won't like all this time it takes and puts you out? Then what? Modern Middle Eastern, TO ME, does not compute well with someone mid-transition.

I'm not trying to bring you down, it's just the reality of the world. You have to think of yourself first, of your health & safety & well-being. Set aside the fantasies & the rainbow unicorn poop, think with your head not your heart.

Good luck.



MasterEmbrace -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/28/2015 1:31:38 PM)

This site, and that other site has many scammers - this site does have a dont let the pants be scammed off you section, the other site curiously does not.

No it is what we calling a scamming kunt - occasionally whence I am bored I will entertain them through many a mail and talking of my company MuffinCorp ( i am not kidding) and tell them I have sent the goods, bar of gold wired it many times and I have ten wives and I would like another so I may beat senseless with the kitchen sink and that I have dispatched my carrier pidgoen post haste with a sock full of gold ,posthaste I am not kidding

My price is one muffin, i kid thee not, if they cannot afford it I buy two muffins * I admit sometimes they come in packs of 4 and i scoff three

so you talk to people who think you need plastic surgery - I see *sighs* can you send me some gold please a wheel barrows worths *smiles*



Moderator3 -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/28/2015 1:44:00 PM)

You nearly made a few people's day by choking a mod.

Ouch!

Yet, I live on. [sm=trident.gif]



Awareness -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/28/2015 1:59:22 PM)

The Middle East is dangerous enough for women. For trans women it's exceptionally dangerous. We're talking about a set of societies where if someone discovers you're trans, they may literally try to kill you.

I don't just think you're being catfished, I think you're being lured by homophobic nutcases (yes, there's probably more than one) who want to kill what they see as a gay American.



DesFIP -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/28/2015 6:51:21 PM)

Doubtful it's anything more than some dude wanting expensive electronics. Because if the op did any research she'd be able to discover that gender reassignment surgery is never done in a hospital in the country in question.



tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/28/2015 7:09:12 PM)

See, I asked if the OP had done any research at all about all this. Apparently not. Putting your safety first should be THE priority. Not escaping halfway across the globe on a fantasy that may result in serious harm, not by medical practices but by unscrupulous men who want to hurt, or worse, any female or person not of their "at birth" gender, for wont of better wording.



DesFIP -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/29/2015 1:21:03 PM)

But I don't believe there's any risk except to her wallet. Since none of these guys are going to be there when she gets off the plane.

And since she won't do any research, I don't believe she actually plans to go. She's just hoping to scam someone out of tens of thousands.



tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Masters asking for gifts (3/29/2015 1:55:02 PM)

I think right now we're being taken for fools. Someone, somewhere is sitting back laughing at us. Too many inconsistencies, too much bullcaca.



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