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Mind fucking... - 4/12/2015 6:17:06 AM   
ExiledTyrant


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I really like captive play, interrogation, prisoner assaults, and all the other joyful joy joy feelings that accompany snatching someone out of their comfort zone and lands them in a scenario where the mind begins to believe that this scene is their reality.

Lately, because I am a bit of a trekie and after some fun with Bita and crumpets, I've been entertaining a Klingon capture scene. Yes, my sickness is only rivaled by my creativity and creativity is an asset when you're contemplating a mockup Klingon interrogation room and inviting a Klingon horde over to play with a hapless victim.

Years ago I had a nice discussion with John Warren about a Nazi capture scene and his victim had nearly slipped into the "reality" of the scene, which was sadistically intriguing to me. So, in my sick and twisted mind, I am quite curious to see who would be intrigued by such an intense scene, which side of the game would you play from, and where and how far you would be willing to take it... and at what point would the victim slip into the "reality" of the scene.

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/12/2015 6:45:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would be the one in uniform and my prisoner would be in deep shit. Truck batteries, cyclone fencing over the cross, jumper cables with a frayed end. . . they would be crying uncontrollably in heaving sobs and confessing to future crimes not yet committed and shout long live the fuhrer by the time I am through. The reality of how far I would go is seen in the fencing . . . it is a conductive ground point and you can spark it up real good without actually electrocuting your partner.

I am an audio engineer. I studied electronics and am experienced with high voltage multiphase electrical power for concert lighting and PAs. So for me, conductivity and path to ground is familiar territory. I have seen this exact fence, cross and battery set up before in a demo theater and always wanted to do it myself. It was awesome.

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/12/2015 6:50:14 AM   
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I would be the one in uniform and my prisoner would be in deep shit. Truck batteries, cyclone fencing over the cross, jumper cables with a frayed end. . . they would be crying uncontrollably in heaving sobs and confessing to future crimes not yet committed and shout long live the fuhrer by the time I am through. The reality of how far I would go is seen in the fencing . . . it is a conductive ground point and you can spark it up real good without actually electrocuting your partner.

I am an audio engineer. I studied electronics and am experienced with high voltage multiphase electrical power for concert lighting and PAs. So for me, conductivity and path to ground is familiar territory. I have seen this exact fence, cross and battery set up before in a demo theater and always wanted to do it myself. It was awesome.


Build it and they will cum.

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P.S. I'd love to see that in action.

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/12/2015 7:15:04 AM   
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I would be the one in uniform and my prisoner would be in deep shit. Truck batteries, cyclone fencing over the cross, jumper cables with a frayed end. . . they would be crying uncontrollably in heaving sobs and confessing to future crimes not yet committed and shout long live the fuhrer by the time I am through. The reality of how far I would go is seen in the fencing . . . it is a conductive ground point and you can spark it up real good without actually electrocuting your partner.

I am an audio engineer. I studied electronics and am experienced with high voltage multiphase electrical power for concert lighting and PAs. So for me, conductivity and path to ground is familiar territory. I have seen this exact fence, cross and battery set up before in a demo theater and always wanted to do it myself. It was awesome.


Build it and they will cum.

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P.S. I'd love to see that in action.

It was awesome. A gay couple did the demo/theater . . . if was at SELF or Beyond Leather, don't remember which. Hell, I don't remember what planet I was on at that time, I was so totally spaced while watching them.

The bottom's name was thor and he had a full sized master lock in his prince Albert piercing. The top had 6 truck batteries strapped together and pair of cables, one end clamped to the fence. The other a frayed bunch of copper wire for making BIG sparks on the fence. The interplay between them was hot as hell because thor was a little bit of a SAM, enough so the resistance play got pretty spicy.

The closer the Top moved to the area of fence where thor was touching it, the more electricity crawled over thor and his skin. It shocked him pretty good and produced a jumping shower of sparks that was awesome. so sparks are flying off the fence and thor is twitching and fighting so hard he even pulled a piece of fence loose. The top had to kept threatening to zap thor right on the Masterlock and one time, he did quickly brushed against it. Man, if looks could kill thor would have been deadly. Anyway, they were awesome, the theater was awesome and I do hope you get to see them one day.

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/12/2015 7:20:16 AM   
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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/12/2015 6:47:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was a rape scene many years ago. I was to go to the grocery store and then come to his place, pretending it was my own. My arms were full of grocery bags and I struggled to unlock the door, As I stepped inside he came in behind me from the hallway. He was wearing a mask and wielding a big ass knife. The surprise was real because I had thought he would be hiding inside. My gasp of fear was very real and I will never forget the sound of the apples rolling across the floor....

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/12/2015 10:03:49 PM   
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...I will never forget the sound of the apples rolling across the floor....

That's hot.

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/12/2015 10:51:25 PM   
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It was a rape scene ... he came in behind me... wielding a big ass knife... My gasp of fear was very real and I will never forget the sound of the apples rolling across the floor....

Love it, that is damn sexy!


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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 4:05:23 AM   
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It was a rape scene many years ago. I was to go to the grocery store and then come to his place, pretending it was my own. My arms were full of grocery bags and I struggled to unlock the door, As I stepped inside he came in behind me from the hallway. He was wearing a mask and wielding a big ass knife. The surprise was real because I had thought he would be hiding inside. My gasp of fear was very real and I will never forget the sound of the apples rolling across the floor....


Nice! Thank you catize xoxoxo

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 4:09:58 AM   
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I would be the one in uniform and my prisoner would be in deep shit. Truck batteries, cyclone fencing over the cross, jumper cables with a frayed end. . . they would be crying uncontrollably in heaving sobs and confessing to future crimes not yet committed and shout long live the fuhrer by the time I am through. The reality of how far I would go is seen in the fencing . . . it is a conductive ground point and you can spark it up real good without actually electrocuting your partner.

I am an audio engineer. I studied electronics and am experienced with high voltage multiphase electrical power for concert lighting and PAs. So for me, conductivity and path to ground is familiar territory. I have seen this exact fence, cross and battery set up before in a demo theater and always wanted to do it myself. It was awesome.


Build it and they will cum.

Jus sayin

P.S. I'd love to see that in action.

It was awesome. A gay couple did the demo/theater . . . if was at SELF or Beyond Leather, don't remember which. Hell, I don't remember what planet I was on at that time, I was so totally spaced while watching them.

The bottom's name was thor and he had a full sized master lock in his prince Albert piercing. The top had 6 truck batteries strapped together and pair of cables, one end clamped to the fence. The other a frayed bunch of copper wire for making BIG sparks on the fence. The interplay between them was hot as hell because thor was a little bit of a SAM, enough so the resistance play got pretty spicy.

The closer the Top moved to the area of fence where thor was touching it, the more electricity crawled over thor and his skin. It shocked him pretty good and produced a jumping shower of sparks that was awesome. so sparks are flying off the fence and thor is twitching and fighting so hard he even pulled a piece of fence loose. The top had to kept threatening to zap thor right on the Masterlock and one time, he did quickly brushed against it. Man, if looks could kill thor would have been deadly. Anyway, they were awesome, the theater was awesome and I do hope you get to see them one day.


SO hot:) growls

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 4:32:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		The hottest and most realistic performance I've ever seen and the one that pulled the audiences mind into thinking this was real was a take down and capture scene.

The music suddenly dulled and instead we heard terrified screams and a girl running through the halls with a picture of real fear on her face. I know electricfairy well; she's not only young but a dainty English rose with masses of long thick curly hair. She was in a white summer dress which of course stood out in a BDSM club. The man chased her down, grabbed a thick wedge of her hair and dragged her back in the direction she'd just run from. When he got to the scaffold he held her down and started to bind her but she fought for all she was worth. She became this little tigress, determined not to submit but he was bigger, stronger and faster than her. Realizing he was getting the better of her she started to beg. Tears rolled down her face as she pleaded for mercy and tried to cling onto anything she could grab, including him but he had little mercy and without further ado she was gagged, tied up firmly and pulled up the scaffold.

By now the entire room had stopped. People had got up from the play equipment and stopped what they were doing and rushed over to see what was going on. People in the audience were whispering, "is this consensual?"..."should someone go and get a DM?" (for me a good performance has to convince the mind that its real). I know this couple well; they are known for their incredible scenes and performances but even I was sucked in like a magnet. I dare not even tell you about the final part of the scene as I know people will condemn it but I will say, two people fainted and the room started screaming. For me, it was the best scene I've ever seen and to date, there's been nothing close to it.

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 4:42:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is awesome, Maria. Kind puts a new twist on non consent. Many people, me included, take issue with people that flaunt their kink on nilla's, but when you're at a play party and suck everyone into a scenario like you describe, my inner meanie gets all excited about the non consent of the spectators. It'd be like a cat barking if you think about it... here you are at a play party and your brain is in overdrive trying to decide if this is consent, non consent, and if you are consenting... what to do, what to do?!?!?

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 5:56:48 AM   
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That is awesome, Maria. Kind puts a new twist on non consent. Many people, me included, take issue with people that flaunt their kink on nilla's, but when you're at a play party and suck everyone into a scenario like you describe, my inner meanie gets all excited about the non consent of the spectators. It'd be like a cat barking if you think about it... here you are at a play party and your brain is in overdrive trying to decide if this is consent, non consent, and if you are consenting... what to do, what to do?!?!?


That was a particularly dark club and you're really not going to go to a club like that if edge play upsets you.

I absolutely agree with you regarding the none consent with a BDSM audience. Fucking with the audiences brain is all part and parcel of putting a good performance together and just like you, I get sadistic pleasure from seeing the nervous looks on peoples faces.

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 8:45:46 AM   
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Ingredients:
Kayro Syrup
Red Kool-Aid
Condom
antique Nazi officer's dagger
well known sadist
devout bloodsport masochist
the play area at Hellfire West

Mix syrup and red Kool-Aid to make fake blood.
Fill condom with blood and tie it off
Fill masochist's snatch with loaded condom
Go on stage/play area at club, do cutting and bleeding knife play (not scratching)
Finish scene with her spread eagle to the audience
Watch faces in audience as they see you insert knife deep into her pussy (breaking condom)
Imagine what they saw, a knife handle protruding from her pussy and then she starts bleeding all over the place as she plays along screaming
A little while later I pulled the condom out and she stood up to show the audience she was ok.



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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 9:03:17 AM   
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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 10:26:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm writing all this stuff down because I love new performance ideas I didn't know you could make fake blood like that.

I once did a performance where I used a medical grade oscillating saw on a guys chest. I had put fake blood along the edge of the blade and although the blade immediately stops when it touches the skin, it still makes that awful screeching noise and the deep streak of blood made it appear I'd cut him open. He clearly looked badly wounded and as his head dropped towards the floor, he bit down on a blood capsule he'd been hiding between his teeth and let it ooze out of the side of his mouth.

The worrying thing is, people love these performances. These guys really do want blood

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 12:11:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: catize

It was a rape scene many years ago. I was to go to the grocery store and then come to his place, pretending it was my own. My arms were full of grocery bags and I struggled to unlock the door, As I stepped inside he came in behind me from the hallway. He was wearing a mask and wielding a big ass knife. The surprise was real because I had thought he would be hiding inside. My gasp of fear was very real and I will never forget the sound of the apples rolling across the floor....


"I will never forget the sound of the apples rolling across the floor...."
....I'm with Aries....that was definitely HOT.



I had something similar.....and now that I look back it was riskier than I realized and I can't help but think to myself that I must have been crazy....but it was awesome.

I knew this guy that I had been chatting with on CM (and eventually talking on the phone) for over 2 years. We talked ALL the time but it took us over 2 years before we finally met. He knew about my fantasy and we did plan to do it...but....At that point I had still not met him, and although we agreed to do it on a particular weekend he knew I would be home, we didn't agree on a particular day or time of day. So there was a BIG surprise element.

I was coming back into my apartment from doing some laundry and he came up behind me and covered my mouth, pushed me into my apartment, was whispering into my ear...threatening me not to scream.....pulled a handkerchief from his pocket and blindfolded me. Then he took another scarf and tied my wrists and pushed me back into my sofa.

While I knew it was him in the back of my mind because I did recognize his voice...he was talking in a very low soft whisper in my ear all the time so he did sound a little different.

He had a knife and he cut off my t-shirt and shorts...then spent about an hour with his hands all over me

That was the first time I had ever been blindfolded....and ever since then I LOVE LOVE LOVE blindfolds.

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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/13/2015 4:52:45 PM   
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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/14/2015 2:02:29 AM   
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While I knew it was him in the back of my mind because I did recognize his voice...he was talking in a very low soft whisper in my ear all the time so he did sound a little different.



You knew it was him but did you question your safety? The reason I ask is, I love planning stuff like this so that the submissive will question their safety, even though they ultimately trust me.

We read so much on here about 'trust' and whilst I appreciate how important that is, a 'head fuck' in my world is partly about fucking that trust up, even if only for a very short space in time.


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RE: Mind fucking... - 4/14/2015 5:19:04 AM   
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While I knew it was him in the back of my mind because I did recognize his voice...he was talking in a very low soft whisper in my ear all the time so he did sound a little different.



You knew it was him but did you question your safety? The reason I ask is, I love planning stuff like this so that the submissive will question their safety, even though they ultimately trust me.

We read so much on here about 'trust' and whilst I appreciate how important that is, a 'head fuck' in my world is partly about fucking that trust up, even if only for a very short space in time.



In my sick and twisted mind, that trust would have to be the baseline. I couldn't ever enter into a mind fuck scene where the trust wasn't implicit. It is the safety net for me. I am all about blurring the reality of trust, giving the illusion of doubt, but once the illusion became the reality and he/she was caught in the sudden awareness that "trust" was broken or could be broken, red would come too soon.

Perhaps it should be another topic... I dunno... bringing someone to the precipice of madness, which is where the mind fuck is going... the realm of "oh fuck... this cannot be happening", I need trust to be the haven that his/her mind always retreats to for reassurance. IMO the mind fuck is to place the victim into a surreality of horrific possibility, and the mind falling back to the reassurance of trust, no matter how blurred, keeps the scene going.

Thoughts?

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