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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Just can't let my position stand as I declare it


I know you are trying to be funny here and meant no real harm,but the fact of the matter is that ,my actual position is consistently caricatured by you and your buddies.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality.


For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions:


I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest.

I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got.


Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality.


For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions:


I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest.

I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got.


Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality.


For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions:


I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest.

I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got.


Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

FR

When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

FR

When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.

And anyone with sense doesn't leave out any options.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality.


For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions:


I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest.

I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got.


Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Just can't let my position stand as I declare it


I know you are trying to be funny here and meant no real harm,but the fact of the matter is that ,my actual position is consistently caricatured by you and your buddies.

No worse than mine is caricatured by you and yours.

Your position needs no such caricaturing .....you are extreme without any one else taking you there

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality.


For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions:


I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest.

I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got.


Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ?

For instance if the 2nd didn't exist what would your solution be?

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Just can't let my position stand as I declare it


I know you are trying to be funny here and meant no real harm,but the fact of the matter is that ,my actual position is consistently caricatured by you and your buddies.

No worse than mine is caricatured by you and yours.

Your position needs no such caricaturing .....you are extreme without any one else taking you there

Coming from you, this is priceless

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality.


For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions:


I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest.

I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got.


Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ?

For instance if the 2nd didn't exist what would your solution be?

No,no,no....I gave three positions and asked to hear three of yours....till I get that I feel no need nor compulsion to restate my views.

But your hypothetical sucks,were there no second there probably wouldn't be so many guns in so many hands.....so there would be no need for me to have a"position"

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

FR

When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality.


For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions:


I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest.

I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got.


Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ?

For instance if the 2nd didn't exist what would your solution be?

No,no,no....I gave three positions and asked to hear three of yours....till I get that I feel no need nor compulsion to restate my views.

But your hypothetical sucks,were there no second there probably wouldn't be so many guns in so many hands.....so there would be no need for me to have a"position"

First
To say my positions are extreme means you are so far out in left feild you bump into the hot dog venders.
I have stated my positions.
A. Enforce the law on both the employers and the illegals. Path to citizenship, get into the end of the line and do it legal. If they want some kind of "fast track" make them join the military in a combat arms unit. infantry, armor, artillery.
Do not give them any advantage over people who have followed the rules, if you do you destroy the system, no one will have a reason to follow the rules.
B Back ground checks, make them tighter and include mental health info.
C We knew that government run health care was bad and at least avoided single payer. Every one of these is as much a compromise as any "compromise" you claim.
D I will reword my question if we could repeal the second what would you want to do?

Your positions were not compromises, they were all "I wanted more but this is all we could get"

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality.


For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions:


I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest.

I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got.


Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ?

For instance if the 2nd didn't exist what would your solution be?

No,no,no....I gave three positions and asked to hear three of yours....till I get that I feel no need nor compulsion to restate my views.

But your hypothetical sucks,were there no second there probably wouldn't be so many guns in so many hands.....so there would be no need for me to have a"position"

First
To say my positions are extreme means you are so far out in left feild you bump into the hot dog venders.
I have stated my positions.
A. Enforce the law on both the employers and the illegals. Path to citizenship, get into the end of the line and do it legal. If they want some kind of "fast track" make them join the military in a combat arms unit. infantry, armor, artillery.
Do not give them any advantage over people who have followed the rules, if you do you destroy the system, no one will have a reason to follow the rules.
B Back ground checks, make them tighter and include mental health info.
C We knew that government run health care was bad and at least avoided single payer. Every one of these is as much a compromise as any "compromise" you claim.
D I will reword my question if we could repeal the second what would you want to do?

Your positions were not compromises, they were all "I wanted more but this is all we could get"

Which ,by definition<is a compromise.

The fact that you do not understand the definition of "compromise" is enough evidence to convince me there is no further sense in replying to,or addressing any future posts you might make.

I'm sorry Bama,for all I know you are a nice guy,you just aren't all that bright.

So from my end I'm done,one can not have a foot race with a man with no legs.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Breaking my own,just stated rule.....if you feel it's an insult for me to point out that you failed to grasp the very meaning of a compromise.....than sue your fucking school system,not my fault you were improperly educated.


But ,pray tell,what did you feel compromised entailed ?

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ORIGINAL: Moderator3

I guess it is time for some changes around here. It is an ugly feeling when you have to take moderator action against adults, because so many will push as far as they can push and force staff to go to places they don't care to go to.

I don't want to hear I'm sorry in my email box. I want to see it out here where it matters.