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Latest IRS Scandal - 4/22/2015 5:52:35 PM   
KenDckey


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Status: offline 		So why is the IRS cutting customer service and enforcement?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/irs-diverted-millions-from-taxpayer-assistance-to-pay-for-employee-bonuses/article/2563430?utm_content=buffer2bdb6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/22/2015 10:13:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Um...because their budget was slashed? Maybe?

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/22/2015 11:26:15 PM   
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So why is the IRS cutting customer service and enforcement?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/irs-diverted-millions-from-taxpayer-assistance-to-pay-for-employee-bonuses/article/2563430?utm_content=buffer2bdb6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer


Recall all those conservatives who were butt hurt last year because they thought they were singled out for audits by some conspiracy by the Obama administration? They had to switch resources from 'helping Americans with tax filings' to 'dealing with stupid asshole conservatives that live in a fantasy world'.

I like the subtle attack on giving IRS employees bonuses and what unions might be doing. Folks in the IRS take...ALOT....of shit, for doing a thankless task. Its a job, it pays well. Most of them do not get involved in the politics of it. They are there to make sure the rules are followed, and each person is taxed what they owe (or refunded). An incentive for employees to do well, even under pressure, is often rewarded with a bonus in private sectors; why not public? Likewise if those people wish to be in a union, that's their right under the 1st amendment. Do you have a problem with US Citizens exercising their 1st amendment rights with the government?

I also find amusing the author is bashing one 'Quinn Emanuel'. A legal company hired by the IRS to handle issues with Microsoft. Stating that these people would be violating the law. Perhaps the author should get an education on the legal system before looking like a moron. Lawyers can not speak about anything regarding their client, told in confidence unless allowed by their client. Its one of those 'basic concepts' one learns in K-12. That if the client states they are guilty of killing someone, the lawyer can not state that....unless....the client allows them to do such a thing. In public or a court room! Also, a Non-Disclosure Form would be used to further prevent the company from using information obtain in their dealings with the IRS for private gain (or to give to someone else in the political world).


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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 6:49:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking

Um...because their budget was slashed? Maybe?



Um... Maybe if you had read the HEADLINE at least, before you posted? Maybe?

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IRS diverted millions from taxpayer assistance to pay for employee bonuses


$60 million for employee bonuses, after the other scandals hit the news. They also used $20 million for union activities, at a time they are slashing taxpayer assistance

More headlines from Google:

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IRS 'deliberately' cut customer service, made tax season extra painful
Washington Times-1 hour ago
IRS Commissioner John Koskinen denied that his agency had singled out taxpayers' customer service for special reductions. (Associated ...
Report: IRS Deliberately Cut Its Own Customer Service Budget
The Weekly Standard (blog)-Apr 22, 2015
House report: Cash-strapped IRS prioritized bonuses, union activity ...
In-Depth-Fox News-20 hours ago
House Republicans say IRS should blame itself for rough tax season
Blog-Washington Post (blog)-Apr 22, 2015
Hello? Hello? 8 million calls to IRS went unanswered as money cut ...
In-Depth-Minneapolis Star Tribune-21 hours ago
GOP Report: IRS Budget Move Plagued Tax-Filing Season
Blog-Wall Street Journal (blog)-19 hours ago

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 9:35:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can't use the Washington TImes or really the Washington Examiner as a source. Please try to use adult, journalistic sources.

http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378525613/irs-budget-cuts-may-make-for-an-unpleasant-tax-filing-season

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/01/13/irs-fewer-audits-budget-cuts/21708815/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/irs-budget-cuts-will-compound-taxpayer-frustration/2015/01/19/d58ad862-9dcc-11e4-bcfb-059ec7a93ddc_story.html

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 9:40:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, Sun Myung Moons organization is rightwing rabid propaganda. There was indeed less customer service for two reasons, cuts in funding, making less reps and less time, and all the dealings with proving on the tax form that you have insurance, taking up more time than before.

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 10:15:02 AM   
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You can't use the Washington TImes or really the Washington Examiner as a source. Please try to use adult, journalistic sources.

http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378525613/irs-budget-cuts-may-make-for-an-unpleasant-tax-filing-season

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/01/13/irs-fewer-audits-budget-cuts/21708815/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/irs-budget-cuts-will-compound-taxpayer-frustration/2015/01/19/d58ad862-9dcc-11e4-bcfb-059ec7a93ddc_story.html


"Use our far left sources instead'

Fuck that stupidity, they dont report on anything unfavorable to the administration or their crony underling fascist bastards

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 10:19:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		why is it unfavorable to the administration that the cuts are coming from the rabid right wing that are bent on bankrupting this country and giving it to China?

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 10:38:37 AM   
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According to an article in today's Chicago Tribune, the IRS budget has been cut by $1.2 billion dollars since 2010.

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 11:25:38 AM   
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According to an article in today's Chicago Tribune, the IRS budget has been cut by $1.2 billion dollars since 2010.


They were wasting vast sums of money partying in Vegas and making irrelevant videos, illegally targeting conservative groups for harassment, and giving large bonuses to those who took the lead going after conservatives, that kind of thing. So for revenge they diverted money that should be used for taxpayer assistance to more large bonuses for their pompous asses, and even to pay for union activity

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 11:57:04 AM   
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Yeah, Sun Myung Moons organization is rightwing rabid propaganda. There was indeed less customer service for two reasons, cuts in funding, making less reps and less time, and all the dealings with proving on the tax form that you have insurance, taking up more time than before.


The Washington Examiner is exponentially better than your "addictnginfo.com"

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 12:10:28 PM   
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Perhaps, if they spent less time investigating groups with "Patriot" in the name, they'd have had more time to do their fucking jobs.



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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 7:08:53 PM   
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Perhaps, if they spent less time investigating groups with "Patriot" in the name, they'd have had more time to do their fucking jobs.



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That probably sums up the issue {sarcasm}

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 8:02:09 PM   
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why is it unfavorable to the administration that the cuts are coming from the rabid right wing that are bent on bankrupting this country and giving it to China?


I thought Clinton was giving the country to China? Republicans usually try to give it to the Saudis.

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/23/2015 9:06:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wait a minute. If there have been budget cuts and they are unable to do their job as well and as comprehensively as before...why do they get ANY bonuses at all ?

Another aspect of how the private sector in particular and the people at large...hate the fed govt.

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/24/2015 2:16:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		The BUREAUCRACY is performing worse for the cuts. The INDIVIDUALS are getting bonuses for doing Better jobs within the existing limitations. Or so it normally works when retention of skills is essential to a group's function.

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/24/2015 6:13:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		If there were budget cuts, can someone please explain 2 things

a. Why are the taxpayers paying bonus money to it's workers?

b. Why are the tax cuts not coming from these funds?

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/24/2015 6:33:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

If there were budget cuts, can someone please explain 2 things

a. Why are the taxpayers paying bonus money to it's workers?

b. Why are the tax cuts not coming from these funds?
Repeat after me, Ken...cannot cut the bonus funds...or the funds for Vegas parties...or the funds to destroy emails...or the funds to investigate conservative groups...OR to help unions...ONLY funds to do their legitimate jobs

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/24/2015 12:17:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

If there were budget cuts, can someone please explain 2 things

a. Why are the taxpayers paying bonus money to it's workers?

b. Why are the tax cuts not coming from these funds?
Repeat after me, Ken...cannot cut the bonus funds...or the funds for Vegas parties...or the funds to destroy emails...or the funds to investigate conservative groups...OR to help unions...ONLY funds to do their legitimate jobs


ahhhhhhhhhhhhh That explains it

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RE: Latest IRS Scandal - 4/24/2015 10:41:08 PM   
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Perhaps, if they spent less time investigating groups with "Patriot" in the name, they'd have had more time to do their fucking jobs.


Unfortunately, they have to examine any issue that is out of order, irrelevant of the name. If fifty right-wing organizations have 'heritage', 'patriot', 'american', or '2nd amendment'.....

....They'll get investigated if it looks like their records are incorrect. There were plenty of liberal groups that got investigated; funny how conservatives and libertarians leave that bit of FACT out of their 'arguments'.....


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