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RE: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! - 5/5/2015 7:10:05 PM   
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The most open administration ever

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RE: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! - 5/6/2015 2:02:37 AM   
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The most open administration ever


More open than that Republican one we had years before. I'm sure we'll find those nuclear weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in a few more years, right?

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RE: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! - 5/6/2015 3:04:21 PM   
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The most open administration ever


More open than that Republican one we had years before. I'm sure we'll find those nuclear weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in a few more years, right?

"Better than the last one" is all you've got for a defense Joether?

Oh well, at least it's not "they're all lying...she did no such thing (Lerner or Hillary...take your pick).

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RE: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! - 5/6/2015 3:27:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity
The most open administration ever


More open than that Republican one we had years before. I'm sure we'll find those nuclear weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in a few more years, right?

"Better than the last one" is all you've got for a defense Joether?

Oh well, at least it's not "they're all lying...she did no such thing (Lerner or Hillary...take your pick).


Yeah but he is continuing the lie about the nukes. He just cannot seem to help himself when it comes to lying.

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RE: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! - 5/6/2015 3:44:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
The most open administration ever


More open than that Republican one we had years before. I'm sure we'll find those nuclear weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in a few more years, right?


it helps to know certain things before you end up speaking the opposite of what the case is:

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A new study by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) has found that there were more court complaints asking federal judges to force the government to abide by the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) during the first term of the Obama Administration than there were in the last term of President Bush.

While this administration-to-administration increase — documented in court records for the entire FY 2005 to FY 2012 period — was relatively small at 6 percent, a comparison of the FOIA filings in the last two years of Mr. Bush’s second term and the last two years of Mr. Obama’s first term showed a far more pronounced jump of 28 percent — from 562 to 720


http://foiaproject.org/2012/12/20/increase-in-foia-lawsuits-during-obama-administration/

and the link to the screen shot below: http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawire/156227/obama-administrations-foia-record-worse-than-bushs/

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“When it comes to implementation of Obama’s wonderful transparency policy goals, especially FOIA policy in particular, there has been far more ‘talk the talk’ rather than ‘walk the walk,’ ” said Daniel Metcalfe, director of the Department of Justice’s office monitoring the government’s compliance with FOIA requests from 1981 to 2007.

Analysis done by the Scripps Howard Foundation reveals that President Obama’s administration granted a smaller percentage of open records requests in its first two years in office than George W. Bush’s administration granted in its final three years.



any other measure of transparency you want to try to support your chosen one with?

notice how the "granted" and "denied" numbers change direction from bush to Obama.




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RE: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! - 5/6/2015 4:17:46 PM   
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and more...

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In March 2010, the Associated Press found that, under Obama, 17 major agencies were 50 percent more likely to deny FOIA requests than under Bush.


and this gem:

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this president has prosecuted more whistleblowers under the Espionage Act than all prior administrations combined


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/03/barack_obama_promised_transparency_the_white_house_is_as_opaque_secretive.html

(which also talks about executive privilege and all the redactions concerning fast and furious.)

do we even need to mention "we have to pass the bill in order to find out whats in it?" debacle?




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RE: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! - 5/6/2015 6:20:58 PM   
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Regardless of what the report says, or when it's released, Benghazi and the email situation is going to be an election issue.

Hillary can't win without serious answers that will set the public's minds at ease. I don't think we saw that in the Congressional hearings.

I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that there is any public unease about these matters. I do know that there are a lot of unsubstantiated accusations floating around, emanating from Republican minds that are anything but at ease, but that's quite a different thing.

In the absence of any proof, my guess is that the public will pay the usual amount of attention it pays to such party political jockeying and mudslinging ie it will offer a great big yawn and insist on moving onto more substantial issues. If you wish to gain the public's attention produce the proof. It would be prudent to hold your silence until such time as you can produce proof of your suspicions and allegations.


Every decent poll shows Clinton with a ten to fifteen point lead among the top GOP picks. Against everyone else, its anywhere from 20-50 points (yeah Santorium doesnt have a prayer). Most people like Clinton for many different reasons. If it comes down to the pick between two evils, the population will still side with Clinton. Better her than some religious nutcase, gun fucknut, or someone that wants to undermine the nation financially.




Ah, Jees joether, your facts are really sucking here as well.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

Maybe a week ago you were correct. Today it's 2 to 5 points while having unfavorables over 50 percent.


Yes, we can find favorable/unfavorable rating for a US Citizen that is not even in elected office right now. But can't find a steady poll for Congress. How fucked up is that?

Likewise, Clinton seems focus on figuring out what are the issues and dialogue of US Citizens. Yet those seeking the GOP nomination seem to be a one trick pony "attack Clinton". We can look at President Obama an he is handling a number of issues at once; but that Republican controlled Congress can't seem to get anything useful out the door.

We we are going to have a 'favorable/unfavorable' chart for Mrs. Clinton, we do it for all the other conservatives running for the GOP nomination. That would be fair, right? Wonder how many of those candidates are seen by the general public as 'having a clue they are on planet Earth'?


Joe, still just igninignint.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html

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RE: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! - 5/6/2015 6:22:03 PM   
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Another one joe.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2016_generic_congressional_vote-5279.html


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