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Is it better to create & maintain a single switch or tw... - 5/6/2015 8:39:29 AM   
Anchises


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To those of you who switch, do you find it better overall to maintain a single switch profile, or do you find it best to manage a duality, one as a switch, while the other as a submissive?

The advantage of one profile, of course, is that's it's easier to maintain and respond.
But, it's hard to make a truthful single profile, since, it seems, the two personalities don't exist at the same time.
It's either one, or the other - depending on mood and circumstance.

So, it's not like you're a switch all the time - you're actually either one or the other - so how do you write a profile that is both effectively?

Plus, from the other side, it seems there are those looking for submissives who aren't looking for switches.
Likewise, those searching for dominants may not be entering switch in their search engine.

Then there are the pure logistics of a male seeking a female.
A rough test search shows vastly more women searching for either dominants or submissives, than those searching for switches.

So, logistically, it seems being one or the other is better statistically, for finding a potential partner. But, I contrast writing a submissive-only profile versus a switch profile for sheer truthfulness reasons.

How do you manage the dilemma?
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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 12:01:47 PM   
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I disagree with your basic premises.

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ORIGINAL: Anchises
So, it's not like you're a switch all the time - you're actually either one or the other - so how do you write a profile that is both effectively?


I am a switch. All of the time.

I am dominant in my relationships, and I switch at activities. That never changes.

YOU may be one or the other, off or on. I am not.

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Plus, from the other side, it seems there are those looking for submissives who aren't looking for switches.
Likewise, those searching for dominants may not be entering switch in their search engine.


Because some people don't want switches. Why would you then try to hide it? Or would you mention it in your profile, even though you listed as one or the other?

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So, logistically, it seems being one or the other is better statistically, for finding a potential partner. But, I contrast writing a submissive-only profile versus a switch profile for sheer truthfulness reasons.


Agreed.

quote:

How do you manage the dilemma?


I am very clear about who I am and what I am looking for. I write a lot, so people get a feel for who I am, and I never hide or shade the truth.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 1:42:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
I am dominant in my relationships, and I switch at activities. That never changes.

That's an interesting way of putting it.
When I think about it, I'm the same.
I call that a switch, since the only time it matters, for me, is when sexuality is directly involved.
Otherwise, in daily life and in interpersonal relationships, I'm not a switch at all.
I'm really ambi-sextuous, I guess.
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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
Because some people don't want switches. Why would you then try to hide it?
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That's why I'm asking.
It's not something to hide, but it complicates a profile.
In essence, a truthful profile would, by necessity, require two wholly different profiles in one.
That's hard to write, and, I dare say, even harder for someone else to comprehend.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 6:10:06 PM   
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The trouble with keeping up separate profiles is you run the danger of messaging another switch with both of them. Or you message someone on one profile and her friend on the other. Women talk to each other, and if you're using similar language in your introductions or the same pictures on both it's a dead giveaway. And once that happens, you don't look like a switch just trying to play the numbers. You look like yet another dudebro trying to get his rocks off any way possible.

I recommend keeping one profile, making your switch tendencies known, and going from there.

So you won't get the people who aren't looking for switches. That's because these people aren't interested in switches. Making two profiles hides your switch tendencies and you're being dishonest with your partner from the start. If she's not interested in a switch, she has a right to be, and you should respect that preference.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 6:13:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Anchises
That's why I'm asking.
It's not something to hide, but it complicates a profile.
In essence, a truthful profile would, by necessity, require two wholly different profiles in one.
That's hard to write, and, I dare say, even harder for someone else to comprehend.


*shrugs*

Many people say I'm complicated. That's why I make my profile as complete as I can, and write as the impulse strikes me. People often say they get a very good feel from me from my profile.


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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 6:14:46 PM   
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I don't find anything complicated about switches, any more than I find anything complicated about bisexuals.
(But I may be biased.)

It sounds like you're too worried about making yourself look better to people who aren't potentially interested in what you have to offer. Stop that. They're not your target audience.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 6:21:35 PM   
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Okay, here's tha thang... there are two types of switches in the world, the kind that should be put to death in the most horrific way imaginable and the other kind...

You have to figure out which kind you are and for that I have the PB&J test...

A) Peanut butter first.
B) Jelly first.

Think of it like a saw movie, answer wrong and we'll come find you.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 6:28:09 PM   
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I used to be a switch and, when I was, I had one profile. I felt it was more honest and I explained who and what I was and what I was looking for, as well as what I had to offer, in that profile. I think, you cross referenced each profile to the other, it'd be fine to have two but I'd think that, regardless of which you choose(one or two), honesty should be key. If someone isn't into switches, wouldn't it be better for them to know upfront? It would save you - and them - a lot of unnecessary hassles.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 9:21:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

I don't find anything complicated about switches, any more than I find anything complicated about bisexuals.
(But I may be biased.)

It sounds like you're too worried about making yourself look better to people who aren't potentially interested in what you have to offer. Stop that. They're not your target audience.

Not only that, but for any man on line approaching a woman, you don't ever want to appear as if you are trying to be deceptive. If we sense you're hiding something, that you're married and just looking to fool around, more women than not will immediately become suspicious of you. Giving more justification for us to doubt your sincerity will get you deep-sixed in a heartbeat.

Now, if you (plural) actually are a married cheater or a playa, and/or you actually are playing the field and hedging your bets trying to get A woman, ANY woman interested in you for an NSA rendezvous, then play your little wannabe Dom-switch-sub games to alert us to the shallowness of your intentions.


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

. . . You look like yet another dudebro trying to get his rocks off any way possible.

I recommend keeping one profile, making your switch tendencies known, and going from there.

So you won't get the people who aren't looking for switches. That's because these people aren't interested in switches. Making two profiles hides your switch tendencies and you're being dishonest with your partner from the start. If she's not interested in a switch, she has a right to be, and you should respect that preference.

When I had a Domme profile, it bothered me when men approached me with both profiles, or when a switch who came up on my viewing list suddenly became a sub with his intro message, touting the subbliness of his "x" no. of years experiences. I could often connect the dots, and if I had to inquire about both profiles before someone disclosed this in advance, then that was already a strike against him.

I will admit there was a time when I wouldn't have considered a switch for all the tea in China. This was because at least 40% of them were bisexual and/or poly, and that wasn't what I wanted; the rest were suspect. Why? They wanted "forced" bi or were primarily interested in getting pegged and being some Dominant woman's bitch (their terminology at first, not mine). In other words, they weren't much different than the male Doms who occasionally contacted me because they wanted to get Topped and had no intention of forming an enduring relationship of any kind -- other than that of BDSM bottom play partner on the side.

Then I made friends with a few switches who weren't like that, and I discovered that there are many different kinds of switches. I also made friends with a few male Doms who weren't sadistic and learned they did not enjoy acting the part of a service Top, but didn't want to get lumped into the male switch category. So while I don't want a male Dom, I came to see that some of them have switch tendencies and aren't seeking a one-sided D/s, or tried it out and found out that this wasn't what they actually wanted. (Then there are those who think that calling themselves a Dom will get them instant nookie and bj's on demand, but that's beside the point.)

I wholeheartedly identify with tj444 in a post she made recently (except I can't recall on which thread, and to paraphrase) that she's Dominant in her intimate relationships but not hard core into BDSM, so she calls herself a switch. I couldn't find what I was looking for as a Domme, and both times I found compatible subs (who weren't hiding shit from me that would make us an unsuitable match) were on vanilla dating sites. Like tj, I don't actually switch my D/s orientation to being submissive or have any desire to be dominated -- hell no. It has taken well over a year of soul-searching for me to finally come to terms with giving myself the latitude to just. be. me. Personally, I haven't completed transitioned away from noting in much older profile(s) that I seek a long-term FLR and only just took out my D/s references on a couple of other dating sites, because I still do want my man to have submissive characteristics.

The problem I've run into with having a switch profile here is that my Interests list can be misconstrued, and having to clear that up causes communications to become overly sexual in content. That's one big drawback which is nearly unavoidable.
Dunno if that helps you any, OP.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 9:55:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Anchises

But, it's hard to make a truthful single profile, since, it seems, the two personalities don't exist at the same time.
It's either one, or the other - depending on mood and circumstance.

So, it's not like you're a switch all the time - you're actually either one or the other - so how do you write a profile that is both effectively?

Like that^.
You're well on the way to creating a decent summary of yourself with what you've written here already.

quote:

Plus, from the other side, it seems there are those looking for submissives who aren't looking for switches.
Likewise, those searching for dominants may not be entering switch in their search engine.

I would advise you be open about yourself, if a person isn't looking for a switch they may feel lied to later when they find out you're not as advertised.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/6/2015 9:58:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Anchises

To those of you who switch, do you find it better overall to maintain a single switch profile, or do you find it best to manage a duality, one as a switch, while the other as a submissive?

The advantage of one profile, of course, is that's it's easier to maintain and respond.
But, it's hard to make a truthful single profile, since, it seems, the two personalities don't exist at the same time.
It's either one, or the other - depending on mood and circumstance.

So, it's not like you're a switch all the time - you're actually either one or the other - so how do you write a profile that is both effectively?

Plus, from the other side, it seems there are those looking for submissives who aren't looking for switches.
Likewise, those searching for dominants may not be entering switch in their search engine.

Then there are the pure logistics of a male seeking a female.
A rough test search shows vastly more women searching for either dominants or submissives, than those searching for switches.

So, logistically, it seems being one or the other is better statistically, for finding a potential partner. But, I contrast writing a submissive-only profile versus a switch profile for sheer truthfulness reasons.

How do you manage the dilemma?



I have 27 profiles.

1 is a sub male.

1 is a cuckold, seeking.

1 is a drone, taking images for construction companies.

1 is a turtle.

1 is a 1967 Cadillac, but can't find leaded fuel.

There are others.


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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/7/2015 8:36:15 AM   
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I'm a switch, and I'm a switch all of the time. there is nothing complicated about it at all. I don't domme with one person in one scenario, but then sub for another person in a different scenario. It's like saying that I like pain one moment, but then don't the next. I just am, and I want it all, and all within any moment. a person either has me, or they don't. if they don't then they are missing out on a lot of me. there is no need for a separate profile if I decide to seek someone. I'm all, and everything rolled in to one. if someone doesn't want that then they move on by.

I like people that keep it simple with one profile, and I block guys on the other side that have multiple profiles that are not clearly defined.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/7/2015 6:31:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant
A) Peanut butter first.
B) Jelly first.


Most of the time I put the peanut button on first, and, then, with the same butter knife (yes, I know), I lavishly spread on the jelly on top of the peanut butter, and then slam the gooey mess shut with a clean slice of bread.

However, sometimes I pop the peanut butter onto one slice, and put mountains of jelly on the other slice using two different butter knives, which is mostly when I'm having multiple sandwiches. Again, I pop them together, and eat the gooey mess but now the knives are ready for a second sandwich.

I had never before thought about which goes first in the latter case, and, truth be told, I think it's random which slice of bread gets the jelly first versus which slice of bread gets the peanut butter.

However, in the case of jelly on top of the peanut butter in the former case, it's always peanut butter first.

Did I pass, or fail?

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/16/2015 10:24:43 PM   
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I'm a switch, I'm not sometimes a sub and sometimes a domme. It wouldn't make sense for me to make two profiles for two different personas. I don't have personas. I'm jsut me, whatever I happen to be doing.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/19/2015 7:44:51 PM   
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From my experience only: Most couples and even singles can easily switch for moments or days as desired.
When you prefer to be who you really are, be that person with all your heart. Only then can others depend
on the honesty and safety of a switch on your part. Timing, Direction and Knowing is critical regardless of posture.

So basically it's up to you and your partner/s.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/25/2015 2:27:12 PM   
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I am one of those subs that has NO interest in switches and actively "discriminates" (treat same as male subs..go straight to bulk mail, want to be buds fine but never consider for more). Yeah, yeah...many people will hate me and vehemently disagree, but I figure "male switch (no opinion on female switches) is code for "sub that occasionally likes to get his way"

HEAR ME OUT!!!! I do judge more harshly the online men then those I meet in person at an event! And this is my PERSONAL OPINION ONLY and WHY I will never consider a male switch as a Dom.

I fear getting involved with someone that suddenly starts ordering ME to DOMINATE him and to me, that is the equivalent to dating a guy who suddenly wants to see me with another woman...So far into my "no way, no how" area that I have to decide between breaking up with someone I really, really like (cause I would just laugh and walk out and never look back if I wasn't really into him ) and being forced to do something that is so against myself that I would hate myself and resent him.

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/25/2015 3:19:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Anchises


quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant
A) Peanut butter first.
B) Jelly first.


Most of the time I put the peanut button on first, and, then, with the same butter knife (yes, I know), I lavishly spread on the jelly on top of the peanut butter, and then slam the gooey mess shut with a clean slice of bread.

However, sometimes I pop the peanut butter onto one slice, and put mountains of jelly on the other slice using two different butter knives, which is mostly when I'm having multiple sandwiches. Again, I pop them together, and eat the gooey mess but now the knives are ready for a second sandwich.

I had never before thought about which goes first in the latter case, and, truth be told, I think it's random which slice of bread gets the jelly first versus which slice of bread gets the peanut butter.

However, in the case of jelly on top of the peanut butter in the former case, it's always peanut butter first.

Did I pass, or fail?


We all can guess the answer :)


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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/25/2015 3:37:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


quote:

ORIGINAL: Anchises


quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant
A) Peanut butter first.
B) Jelly first.


Most of the time I put the peanut button on first, and, then, with the same butter knife (yes, I know), I lavishly spread on the jelly on top of the peanut butter, and then slam the gooey mess shut with a clean slice of bread.

However, sometimes I pop the peanut butter onto one slice, and put mountains of jelly on the other slice using two different butter knives, which is mostly when I'm having multiple sandwiches. Again, I pop them together, and eat the gooey mess but now the knives are ready for a second sandwich.

I had never before thought about which goes first in the latter case, and, truth be told, I think it's random which slice of bread gets the jelly first versus which slice of bread gets the peanut butter.

However, in the case of jelly on top of the peanut butter in the former case, it's always peanut butter first.

Did I pass, or fail?


We all can guess the answer :)


Maybe this will finally explain me but... I ALWAYS put peanut butter on both pieces of bread, then put strawberry jelly (grape?YUCK!) on one side and then smush it together

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/25/2015 3:39:29 PM   
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Had you put that little tidbit on your profile ages ago, someone would've snapped you up right away. Everyone loves a girl with orderly balance :)

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RE: Is it better to create & maintain a single switch o... - 5/26/2015 8:01:58 AM   
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If you're looking for a serious, intimate relationship, I don't know why you *wouldn't* roll all of yourself into one profile. I'd think any long-term submissive you have ought to be someone okay with the fact that sometimes you're a sub, and any long-term dominant you have should be okay with you sometimes being a dominant. The fact that you're a switch doesn't mean you're automatically cheating/otherwise non-monogamous, just in it for the sex, or need to play in both sandboxes to be happy, and the right partner for you will understand that. Don't assume you're going to scare off everyone by listing yourself as a switch - you're only going to scare off people who wouldn't be interested in you anyway.

If you're looking for casual play or one night stands, it might make sense to play up each side individually, as both sides may not be relevant to your encounters. That said, having multiple profiles may come off as duplicitous and may scare away women who'd be otherwise interested, so proceed at your own risk. It's just not quite as important to put all of yourself out there if you're not looking for something serious.

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