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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/17/2006 2:24:19 PM

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What do you mean by educated?

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/17/2006 3:19:36 PM

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Good manners and intelligence are desirable in any relationship.
I'd prefer intelligence over degrees though.
Some of the most successfull, intelligent people I've ever met didn't go to college or university.
Look at Bill Gates, a college drop out.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/17/2006 3:58:31 PM

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It is my understanding that the current accepted thinking with regard to intelligence is that there are multiple intelligences, all valuable with regard to different aspects of life. Someone who scores big points in the standard IQ test will not neccessarily come off as "smart" when it comes down to what's important in a relationship, or what's important to a particular dom. Likewise, as others have stated here, having a formal education does not automatically instill in someone intelligence, really, of any kind.

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There is also a flip side to this topic, there are also cases where the submissive is of higher IQ then the person they serve. i know it's almost heresay, for most subs will say they need intelligence to look up to, and that is a clear preference, But. Life doesn't always work that way.

When I was "looking", it was not merely a preference, but a requirement that any potential dom be at least as intelligent as I in most, if not all, types of intelligence. Of particular importance to me are intra and interpersonal intelligence and existential intelligence.

Submitting to someone who is less intelligent than I would simply not work for me. Id be too afraid to give up control.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/17/2006 4:17:14 PM

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I am almost certain my Daddy has a higher IQ than I do, so it isn't relevant...When we talked about it he seemed to think that may not be the case, but believe me, I am at least smart enough to know when I encounter someone more intelligent than myself..and he is more intelligent than his submissive.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/17/2006 4:21:24 PM

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I'm trying out the fast reply function. Personally I'm ivy educated and have a masters degree. My owner really enjoyed making jokes about how his slave had a masters degree, so I think he was fairly proud of me.

I think there are some models of slavery where you can have a (successful hopefully!) career and serve/submit/be owned by someone. I think the prevalent model among female submissives is a stay at home model where the dominant is the primary financial contributor to the household, but its not the only model.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/17/2006 4:25:52 PM

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Justheather, good point. I want a sub who is in the general intelligence range as me.
They don't have to understand the stock market, economics or business though, that's "my" area but it would be nice to be out to dinner and discuss politics or current events or history.
One thing I've found in people in life in general is that well travelled people seem to be more interesting.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/17/2006 5:10:43 PM

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Oh, I do so agree with your statement about travel...it is very interesting to spend time in the company of people who have seen the world through other lenses and travel is a good way to have that type of experience.
I value highly the time I have spent in other countries and hope to show at least part of the world to my unmentionable before he is too old to want to hang out in India with mama :-).

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/18/2006 7:00:26 AM

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The assortment of subs & slaves is broad & quite inclusive. There's one for every type of Dom/me out there.

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Does the BDSM community recognize that a slave can be educated with a BA or Master degree and come from a good family with manners,

Speaking only for myself, my last long-term (9 yr) slave was previously a Woman Marine Drill Sargeant, the 1st woman hired by Big Blue as a field Rep (& the only one w/ a security clearance), she could listen to a computer & tell you what was wrong with it & tell you what page of the manual had the information needed to fix it. The 2nd in my poly household of the time is an actress, screenplay writer & historian. Before that I had a corporate attorney from the 2nd largest law firm in Houston as my slave for 5 yrs -- her 2nd degree was in medicine. I don't attract (& I'm not attracted to) tobacco spitting zombies or baby factories. I much prefer a sub or slave who can bring something interesting to the discussion ... possibly in a profession that I don't know as much about so I can learn from her on her terms.

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What is the typical type of slave you encounter here in collarme or in alt or in a chat?

The majority are morbidly obese. But I have had some very interesting subs & slaves approach me, one is a financial market analyst PhD ... but that one fizzled when psycho family moved in with her (& she was obligated to care for 'em). Another attorney would have been interesting but she wanted to recreate her high school romance (the one she married & who then became a junkie). I am quite sure that many professional subs & slaves who might have a lot in common with me are comfortable where they are living & have no interest in relocating. And, as I have aged, I am sure there are many younger subs & slaves who stereotypically prefer younger Doms, that's just human nature. So, while I'd enjoy sharing my life with a compatible sub or slave (I've typically sought out subs, but my last LT slave experience has made me more versatile), I can enjoy my life with or without a slave. If another one happens along, then I'd consider her only if we have enough in common ... both within BdSm as well as in other more mundane aspects of our lives.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/18/2006 8:42:02 AM

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I will mirror the several posts about education v. intelligence. One does not necessarily guarantee the other.

Sir and I are both well-educated individuals and both have our areas of expertise that we opening share with each other. We enjoy exchanging ideas and information. He has often told me, however, that I am one of the few women that he has been with that has been able to 'teach' him things... the fact that he admits and appreciates that about me is one of the many things that draws me to him like a moth to the flame.

submission/slavery is not about intelligence or lack thereof. It is about the sincere and deep desire to serve. This goes beyond 'bottoming' to the level of a 'need' to serve. Even Sir doesn't quite understand it when I say that just doing things to please him is a deeply gratifying experience.

If only everyone would take the time to understand the 'psyche' of D/s and M/s relationships... there would be fewer questions of this type.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/18/2006 9:11:13 PM

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My slave is alot smarter than me. I know that.......(thank god or I would have never fixed my ankle last time I sprained it)

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/18/2006 9:49:33 PM

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I've always looked at education as one factor in choosing a slave or boy. The last thing I need is a dumb slave, although education is not necessarily equated with brightness. I, myself, have two advanced graduate degrees. Education, definitely a factor, but only one factor. Master Rand

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/18/2006 11:09:56 PM

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I'm amused by the suggestion that education is a new phenomenon.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/19/2006 3:22:04 AM

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greetings to all

the way your post is written you acted as if before this many or if not all of the slaves were all dumb and brought up on a chicken farm. why did you word it like this . i have been in this lifestlye year all of the slaves i have spoken to or written to have all had degrees and then some so this new type of slave who has been brought up in a good home or has degress has been around for some time dear

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/19/2006 3:36:30 AM

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That was kind of my take on the OP as well mons. It sounded something like "Oh my goodness a dog with a degree isn't that unusual?"

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/19/2006 8:06:29 AM

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My Master prefers slaves with brains or life experience. As he told me in one of his first emails to me, i like the idea of fisting my slave as we talk politics! My Master and i are are differently educated i have BA in theatre, and Master has 2 different degrees one in machinanical engineering and another in computer technology. So his ideas come from a logical based, and mine comes from a artistic base, and sometimes it makes for some interesting conversations.

i think the biggest mistake that people make is that most think in a D/s relationship it is all about playing, but after the scening is over it is nice to be able to talk to the person and find out how they tick

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/26/2006 9:14:21 AM

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There are certainly people who are both intelligent and educated, and also quite submissive. I think there needs to be at least some similarity in intelligence between the dom and sub or one of them will get bored very easily.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/26/2006 3:06:24 PM

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What is the typical type of slave you encounter here in collarme or in alt or in a chat?

The majority are morbidly obese. But I have had some very interesting subs & slaves approach me, one is a financial market analyst PhD ... but that one fizzled when psycho family moved in with her (& she was obligated to care for 'em). Another attorney would have been interesting but she wanted to recreate her high school romance (the one she married & who then became a junkie). I am quite sure that many professional subs & slaves who might have a lot in common with me are comfortable where they are living & have no interest in relocating. And, as I have aged, I am sure there are many younger subs & slaves who stereotypically prefer younger Doms, that's just human nature. So, while I'd enjoy sharing my life with a compatible sub or slave (I've typically sought out subs, but my last LT slave experience has made me more versatile), I can enjoy my life with or without a slave. If another one happens along, then I'd consider her only if we have enough in common ... both within BdSm as well as in other more mundane aspects of our lives.

What does obesity have to do with intelligence?

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/26/2006 4:05:32 PM

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Overall, I do find intelligent woman better, more interesting subs than otherwise.
I have a degree in Bus Adm. and it can be awfully boring discussing economic theory for most people so I don't do it.
I just appreciate a woman who knows herself well and can carry on a good conversation degree or no.
Intelligence is sexy!

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/27/2006 3:02:13 AM

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"Dear Master and if there also Mistresses:
Does the BDSM community recognize that a slave can be educated with a BA or Master degree and come from a good family with manners, what I mean is that what is the perception of you as Masters about a slave? Do you see a slave as dumb or looser or as an individual that can have an education, success and still be a servant, love discipline and want to serve and forced to obey and live a life full of servitude instead of working in a big corporation. Are slaves like that out there? What is the typical type of slave you encounter here in collarme or in alt or in a chat?
thank you.
jc "

The smarter (not IQ based) the slave the better; 'classical education' is overated (sic?). No degree required. You have 5 degrees? Grats. The rest is what you are willing to live with or do. If you are asking this question to get a degree you haven't a clue.

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RE: Educated Slaves, a new kind of slaves? - 7/27/2006 3:13:44 AM

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I don't think... Educated matters... you can go to school years and years.. and be SUPER smart.. and not have a inch of commen sence..

that's just my thouhght.. if i don't make sence.. blame it on Nyquil and it being 3am :/

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