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It's only his area of study when he has something to gain from it politically, like all cons 
Sorry, I should clarify things before it gets out of hand....
I imply he's an environmental engineer (given he has said so) and thus, this topic should be along his field of study. While I may not have a positive viewpoint of Hunter, I'm not stating this to be a punk or pain. My field of study is business. That includes taxes, finances, accounting, sales, marketing, politics, policy, leadership, logistics, customer support, management, small business study, etc. That I have branched out into areas like medicine, technology, soft & hard ware, constitutional politics, etc; because you never know when information not in your original field will come in handy.
I guess I'm puzzled that he has these skills and experiences, yet states this isn't even his realm of study. I've known quite a few enviromental engineers that would talk me to death (from boredom) on the fine details.
If you look at what Ayllee and DS said above, that covers a lot of the response and saves me some typing.
If you look at the State of California Business and Professions Code, there are a lot of things my professional license allows me to do. But the Code also says that I should only do those things in which I am professionally competent. People pay me a lot of money for my professional competence. They also pay me for my ethics. I don't have a problem saying theat something is not within my area of expertise. And unlike the nitwit Tkman, I hold more esteem for professionals who have that attitude. Nitwit....err....Tkman lets his ego get in the way of just about everything I've seen on here. For some reason, youth and inexperience most likely, he fancies himself a man knowledgable about everything. I don't make the presumption and I have no problem, as can be seen, stating when something is not in my field of expertise.
Now Tkman, right now in the People's Republic of California fresh water muscles and, separately, methyl mercury are big deals. Can you in your vaunted infinite wisdom tell me why? Without using Google.
Well, frankly, in all of the world of the environment, there are some areas that don't interest me and some I just never work around. It's no big deal Joe....it is a big deal Tkman, rant and rave about it and show people what a nitwit you are.
Going one step further, I'm not really interested in that area because I believe at this time it's just the current leftist boogie man. I understand huge amounts of money are being thrown at it and scary things are being said in order for us to want to transfer wealth to third world countries. I just done buy it.
I'll give you two, of many reasons.
First Tkman, twenty five years ago I used to run engineering computer models. If you ever get to that point in your career Tkman you will be a flunky. But, still, twenty five years ago when I was doing it I still had much more education that you do now, much more training than you do now and much more experience than you do now. Even when you become a flunky yourself, you will not have reached the status I had twenty five years ago. Think about that nitwit....err....Tkman.
Being pretty familiar with engineering computer simulations modeling I'm perfectly content to wait until some guy steps forward and says I have a computer model than can predict weather and can be replicated. In fact, he'll say, I'll sell copies of it. Which he can't do because he totally built it with government grants and the EPA will place it on its website as freeware. But, I'll have access to it and will be able to adequately predict climate on my own computer. Until that happens it's all bull shit. It's all hype to keep government grants coming.
Now nitwit...err...Tkman...keep the above in mind while I tell you this next thing.
Some time ago. Years actually. I was reading a trade magazine. There was an article written by the VP of a large Silicon Valley company. It was something like HP. A really big company. This guy was discussing growing silicon chips for computers. Boiled down, they'd take a fifty gallon drum (high tec versions), dump chemicals in to it, close it off, control the temperature and pressure and the time and grow chips. And, the VP stated, it worked 75% of the time.
So, nitwit...err....sorry Tkman, here was one of the most, if not the most, high tec companies in the world . They took a vessel of absolutely known volume. They put in a quantity of absolutely known chemicals. They absolutely controlled the temperature. They absolutely controlled the pressure. They absolutely controlled the time. And it's absolutely known process worked 75% of the time.
From there, we jump to the earth systems. Volume completely changing. Chemicals completely changing. Temperature...as opposed to climate nitwit..., constantly changing. Pressure constantly changing and time a pretty much complete unknown on how it works on the other variables. And a shit lot bigger than a fifty gallon drum.
So, nitwit, keep those two things in mind. As a computer model guy, it's always your responsibility to develop a balance as we model. So many variable have to be input and every time it happens the model guy has to teak the input value for balance. So...say...over here I see one likelihood and input maybe a this value, so keeping that in mind maybe over here I should balance that probability with this input. It's all art. But, at the end a good model guy can judge whether or not he has a balanced model when he sees it run. Maybe nobody else in the world can, but he can.
So, with a climate model I know the pressure to come up with boogie man freight is high in order to keep the government grants coming. So we hear about all this scary stuff in my estimation because of the probabilities the modeler inputs. But...in the end, it means nothing unless I can download that computer program from the EPA, run the program and get the same results and then those result happen in the real world.
Until that day it's all BS and money spent hand over fist on the current leftist redistribution plan.
I know, in my professional soul there will be no computer program that is downloadable from the EPA in my life time. How could there be. If the highest tec company in the world cant control fifty gallons of earth space, how are we going to be able to describe the entire planetary system, unconfined? It ain't happening and if you think it is, I've got money to bet.
What you're hearing is BS from the computer guys that need to say those things in order to keep grants flowing. There isn't going to be a model to predict climate in this century.
So, here's the point. If I know it's all BS, why should I get all excited about it. Nitwit...err...sorry Tkman, it's a leftist redistribution of wealth scam that just has no interest for me. Tkman, it's not going to happen in your lifetime either.
< Message edited by HunterCA -- 5/10/2015 5:07:54 PM >
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