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amayos -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 9:01:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha So I've been think about the term "sex slave" lately. Is it just me, or is the idea of servitude in the form of "sexual slavery" sort of ...silly? Granted, there are sexual aspects in play, and some play is overtly sexual. But for me, it just kind of rubs me the wrong way when a guy thinks submission means simply serving a woman in a sexual manner, especially when this is all he wants anyway. I can't speak for all femdoms, but when a guy submits to my will, it isn't meant to get him off. It is meant to get me off. And I don't need to tie up a guy to lick my cunt; I can find them willing to do it without persuasion. Let's think about it for a minute. If we went out and polled all vanilla men, how many would object to being a sex slave? Why not focus more on the SLAVE part, not the SEX part. If I want a sex slave for the night, my play is going to probably lean more toward the vanilla side of things. It's fun - but this isn't a dominant experience for me. A sex slave game, for me, that is also a turnon for my dominant side, would be to take a man and have him suffer for the priveledge of pleasing me. If it were simultaneous, all the better - i.e., he can kneel down and lick me to orgasm, but he must do it while in some amount of pain, and the pain will increase as time goes on, urging him to do a good job and get it done right. AAkasha, This post gave me a smile. Why not focus more on the SLAVE part, not the SEX part sums up a good portion of a sentiment with which I closely relate. To the female "slave" I would borrow from your above lament and ask why not focus more on the slave part, not on the mushy romantic look into my heart and love me for who I am part? In this I mean to point out that both sexes are often horrendously flawed in the way they absorb the definition of slavery, or even general submission for that matter. I have a pet who I have allowed seek a slave for herself, and in this search through which our combined efforts are applied it has reacquainted me with that portion of the male of the species supposedly so inclined. The reality is that while there appears to be so many males willing to submit, only a very small fraction of them seek this in earnest. There is a disturbing portion of bad theory in circulation, and I suspect it's only going to get exponentially worse as the mainstream identifies with "kinkiness" more. As an aside, my personal viewpoint on what a sex slave is compliments your latter point in the above quote. In my mind, a sex slave is a creature captured by and is servant to sex. Ideally, a sex slave is denied pleasure, and the height of its torture is in that it must give of it to others without recompense, save pain. How many males would willingly seek out such slavery when they are made to understand they will not know carnal pleasure for months on end—or even longer? How many would seek to become trapped by their desire, blue-balled and driven near mindless by it, only to please others? For me, being a male sex slave is akin to serving a vampire; she will keep you in shadow and feed voraciously upon you at will, the punishment for your own release without permission so horrible you shiver in fear and effort to obey.

jezabelKH -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 9:20:43 AM)
i totally agree with you on this subject. male sex slaves are a dime a dozen, neurotic, fussy, needy. now give me someone who can mow my yard, trim the bushes, pick weeds while being chained down to a dog lead wearing a thong in 110 degrees outside that amuses me more, oh ok i will be nice give him a steal bowl with water and place it in the sun to warm up.

MrrPete -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 9:30:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood ..........Sex is so much more than stripping down and fucking like bunnies. Can you court me? Can you seduce me? Can you charm me? Can you make me want you? Can you set the scene? Can you be creative? Can you find the right mix of being "slave" and not sitting there being passive expecting me to do all the work? Can you focus on my pleasure above and beyond yours? Can you still "read" me while your dick is hard?....... Yes! hmmmm maybe I need to switch. NOT I love to hear a woman orgasm. I will always ask her if she wants another and will give it to her. Then I have intercourse.

Caretakr -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 9:36:21 AM)
Too much of the concept of service is now tied to hedonistic gratification. Make them do work, to test thier actual motivations. With no fetishy stuff involved. That will get rid of about 95% of those who think a Top is a sex toy. Works every damned time.[:D]

amayos -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 10:02:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Caretakr Too much of the concept of service is now tied to hedonistic gratification. Make them do work, to test thier actual motivations. With no fetishy stuff involved. That will get rid of about 95% of those who think a Top is a sex toy. Works every damned time.[:D] Well said!

EvilGeoff -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 10:23:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Caretakr Too much of the concept of service is now tied to hedonistic gratification. Make them do work, to test thier actual motivations. With no fetishy stuff involved. That will get rid of about 95% of those who think a Top is a sex toy. Works every damned time.[:D] sighs I make it clear in my profile that I am not interested in a sexual or "romantic" relationship, I am interested in a house boy/girl or yardboy/girl.... I've had all of one, count them, ONE! submissive contact me who wanted to learn more. And after he missed each of the arranged meeting opportunities I wrote that one off as a poser too. Screw finding a good "sex slave". The problem is finding a good slave, period! YIK, - Geoff

crouchingtigress -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 11:02:27 AM)
*god, twice and scotter that made me hot!* As to the sex slave thing, well my thoughts are that sex, is how a good majority came to bdsm in the first place. I really cant expect them to know better because how can you know what you dont know? I am not a huge fan of training new folks although with my remote location that is my lot in life, so i do alot of it. But i will say that if sexual slavery is the carrot, and with that that one lil carrot you can go for a lovely carriage ride in the park any time you want....i think i am getting a helluva deal. quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy quote: ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash Something tells me you won't get any sympathy this morning (weg). Not from you anyway, seeing as how you are one of the pair of perverts using me for a sex toy. Anyway i do not need sympathy i need more dry towels.............and maybe knee pads........

crouchingtigress -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 11:05:31 AM)
*you may want to check out a thread in ask a mistress "what am i doing wrong there is a guy in there you might find interesting** quote: ORIGINAL: EvilGeoff quote: ORIGINAL: Caretakr Too much of the concept of service is now tied to hedonistic gratification. Make them do work, to test thier actual motivations. With no fetishy stuff involved. That will get rid of about 95% of those who think a Top is a sex toy. Works every damned time.[:D] sighs I make it clear in my profile that I am not interested in a sexual or "romantic" relationship, I am interested in a house boy/girl or yardboy/girl.... I've had all of one, count them, ONE! submissive contact me who wanted to learn more. And after he missed each of the arranged meeting opportunities I wrote that one off as a poser too. Screw finding a good "sex slave". The problem is finding a good slave, period! YIK, - Geoff

BitaTruble -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 11:10:13 AM)
quote: now give me someone who can mow my yard, trim the bushes, pick weeds while being chained down to a dog lead wearing a thong in 110 degrees outside that amuses me more, oh ok i will be nice give him a steal bowl with water and place it in the sun to warm up. Yes, quite amusing to expose someone to heat stroke. Gods, idiots abound and new people wander in and read shit like this and think it's ok to run out and do it because they are now a Master. Gain a modicum of common sense, lady. For those who are new and believe that having someone do outdoor gardening work, sans hat and clothing, in 110 degree weather is 'amusing,' please note the link and disregard Jezabelles irresponsible post. Do your homework before engaging in this sort of .. I guess it's supposed to be some kind of Mastery.. although it sounds a lot more like stupidity to me. Dehydration and Heat Stroke Celeste

Caretakr -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 11:10:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: amayos quote: ORIGINAL: Caretakr Too much of the concept of service is now tied to hedonistic gratification. Make them do work, to test thier actual motivations. With no fetishy stuff involved. That will get rid of about 95% of those who think a Top is a sex toy. Works every damned time.[:D] Well said! Sex and fetishy stuff are REWARDS for doing decent service-not the service itself.

MasterRenegade77 -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 11:16:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble quote: now give me someone who can mow my yard, trim the bushes, pick weeds while being chained down to a dog lead wearing a thong in 110 degrees outside that amuses me more, oh ok i will be nice give him a steal bowl with water and place it in the sun to warm up. Yes, quite amusing to expose someone to heat stroke. Gods, idiots abound and new people wander in and read shit like this and think it's ok to run out and do it because they are now a Master. Gain a modicum of common sense, lady. For those who are new and believe that having someone do outdoor gardening work, sans hat and clothing, in 110 degree weather is 'amusing,' please note the link and disregard Jezabelles irresponsible post. Do your homework before engaging in this sort of .. I guess it's supposed to be some kind of Mastery.. although it sounds a lot more like stupidity to me. Dehydration and Heat Stroke Celeste ^5s I thought the same thing when I read that post... Dom/mes who don't take care of thier property better than that ought not have said property in the First Place

cloudboy -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 2:08:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Is it just me, or is the idea of servitude in the form of "sexual slavery" sort of ...silly? It seems to me that a "sex slave" would be a kinked up version of a fuck buddy or boytoy, two boyfriend descriptors coined by women.

LotusSong -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 2:13:30 PM)
You do not "find" a good sex slave.. you create them :)

IronBear -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 2:38:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong You do not "find" a good sex slave.. you create them :) Thank you. That was the main thrust of my lengthy post earlier in the thread..

anthrosub -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 2:53:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha So I've been think about the term "sex slave" lately. Now there's a thought. A lot of men around here offer to be a "real sex slave" to a dominant female. Hmmm. That must take some sacrifice. Just you'd have to have sex with her maybe as much as once or twice a day. The horror! What man could survive that? It must take a truly dominant woman to break a man into this habit. To make him learn to service her body whenever she needs it, to have his cock hard and ready for her at the snap of her fingers. Sex on demand. Oh, life is so gruelling for the sex slave! We all know how much men hate to put their cocks inside a beautiful woman's tight cunt. I bet you are all recoiling as you read this, your cocks shriveling up hopelessly with the thoughts of being forced to perform such acts. Does it make you cringe in fear and hide in the corner? What kind of sadistic woman would subject a man to this? To make him her "sex slave"? Indeed there must be a shortage of these men willing to take this step, to submit to such horrible treatment. I bet if any willing man posted on the internet and offered his services, women would fill his mailbox with addresses and phone numbers. This world needs more men willing to perform sexual acts! SARCASM MODE OFF Is it just me, or is the idea of servitude in the form of "sexual slavery" sort of ...silly? Granted, there are sexual aspects in play, and some play is overtly sexual. But for me, it just kind of rubs me the wrong way when a guy thinks submission means simply serving a woman in a sexual manner, especially when this is all he wants anyway. I can't speak for all femdoms, but when a guy submits to my will, it isn't meant to get him off. It is meant to get me off. And I don't need to tie up a guy to lick my cunt; I can find them willing to do it without persuasion. Let's think about it for a minute. If we went out and polled all vanilla men, how many would object to being a sex slave? Why not focus more on the SLAVE part, not the SEX part. If I want a sex slave for the night, my play is going to probably lean more toward the vanilla side of things. It's fun - but this isn't a dominant experience for me. A sex slave game, for me, that is also a turnon for my dominant side, would be to take a man and have him suffer for the priveledge of pleasing me. If it were simultaneous, all the better - i.e., he can kneel down and lick me to orgasm, but he must do it while in some amount of pain, and the pain will increase as time goes on, urging him to do a good job and get it done right. It's interesting to point out that in a scene like the one I just described, I am generally totally aroused by the pain/sacrifice aspect of it, so much so that it even overshadows the feelings of being sexually served. Ironically, it means that at times I can be pretty stubborn about cumming. Maybe I am being a little too harsh. But when I see men parading around offering the huge sacrifice of being a "sex slave" for a dominant woman, I have to wonder who is serving whom. Akasha I always thought of this concept a bit differently. My impression was that sexual activity would always be on Her terms and all that that implies. The situations you describe would certainly fall within that concept. Coupled with a relationship where we care for each other intimately, there would certainly be times when I would be granted the privilege to experience the joy of sex but again, on Her terms...not mine. This would include frequency, acts engaged in, how to perform them and under what conditions, whether I would be allowed to release, and so forth. I even thought there might be times when I would be forced to experience sexual activities against my will. Just because I'm a male doesn't mean I'm "on" 24/7. I can tell you there are many times when it's not the foremost thought in my mind. There's also the concept of being forced to release repeatedly until it's no longer a thrill (perhaps as a punishment). This would be similar to forcing your teenager caught smoking to smoke one cigarette after another until the pack was finished (or worse, smoking and inhaling a cigar). This is not my fantasy, it's my perception. The only fantasy I have is finding a Dominant female for a life long relationship as they don't appear to exist in reality from my experience (they exist for others obviously but I've yet to find someone, so it remains my fantasy). Reading some of the replies here, I must also be different regarding how to please a partner. From my very first experience, it was always common sense to me that I would have to learn what pleases my partner and how best to do it. I discovered this as part of learning what pleased me, so it only follows that my partner would be unique and I would have to familiarize myself with her needs. This is an expression of caring for my partner sexually. In fact, this is what I thought "intimacy" was referring to (getting to know each other's buttons). I still do actually. anthrosub

SleeplessGypsy -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 3:12:13 PM)
now give me someone who can mow my yard, trim the bushes, pick weeds while being chained down to a dog lead wearing a thong in 110 degrees outside that amuses me more, oh ok i will be nice give him a steal bowl with water and place it in the sun to warm up Surely you're joking.. Yea, give the poor boy heat stroke, something you can die from... Yea, I can see where that would be amusing... Good God!

meatcleaver -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 3:14:18 PM)
Men are already and always have been sex slaves. Was it Socrates that said having a cock is like being chained to a madman. OK I paraphrase but I'm sure it was something like that. We are sex slaves from the moment we understand the main reason we have a cock is not for pissing through. Doms are already sex slaves because the leash has two ends and is equally tied to them as it is to a sub/slave.

ichana -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 8:48:21 PM)
I agree many guys use the term "sexual slavery" as a code for getting their rocks off. However, I disagree that sexual slavery is necessarily "silly." I think it's all in the details. If all sexual encounters are totally for your pleasure and the guy's pleasure is ignored or explicitly denied, I think that it can be a very submissive experience. I'm thinking about things like orgasm denial coupled with chastity when not having sex, using condoms layered on top of each other to deny the slave sensation during sex, etc. Done right, it can be a submissive experience, assuming the Domme has her dominant buttons pushed by such an experience. Granted, personally as a submissive, I would like such an experience. However, I expect most vanilla guys wouldn't be able to stand it. And I don't know if saying an experience isn't true slavery if the slave likes it is valid. I think many slaves get true pleasure in (non-sexual) service, so by that logic it wouldn't be true slavery unless you don't let them serve, and the logic becomes circular.

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 9:13:09 PM)
Thats why I like to use collars attached to an invisible fence. No leash required. A shockcollar also works well. hehehe

desertdancer -> RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? (7/16/2006 10:33:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver Men are already and always have been sex slaves. Was it Socrates that said having a cock is like being chained to a madman. OK I paraphrase but I'm sure it was something like that. We are sex slaves from the moment we understand the main reason we have a cock is not for pissing through. Doms are already sex slaves because the leash has two ends and is equally tied to them as it is to a sub/slave. I dunno why, but mmm that really did it for me, yep, that turned me on... Ironbear, in your first post it sounded like you were explaining the difference between a boy and a man. I think a boy is one who uses his cock for his own pleasure, a man is one who learns to use his cock for both our pleasures.

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