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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 5:56:32 PM   
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Hey PS< when did you become a lefty darlin????



See! Exactly my point. PS walks point for you to try to take a decent lefty shot. But, then, just like the army back in the late 60's and early 70's, so moribund with dogma it's just not effective. Fortunately the army has seen the light...well, mostly. Oh, and, the snake missed.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 6:16:52 PM   
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nobody has to walk point for me....I can speak for myself and do.


between PS and I , we know he is a tory... you jumping in just proves you assume a lot of crap you dont have a clue about.
It shows
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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 6:36:58 PM   
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nobody has to walk point for me....I can speak for myself and do.


between PS and I , we know he is a tory... you jumping in just proves you assume a lot of crap you dont have a clue about.
It shows
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Gees, when your demure pretense fails your hate just blares.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:06:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

nobody has to walk point for me....I can speak for myself and do.


between PS and I , we know he is a tory... you jumping in just proves you assume a lot of crap you dont have a clue about.
It shows
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When all else fails, rather than facing up to their own inadequacies and pretensions, accusing others of hate is the preferred option of some posters.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:12:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

nobody has to walk point for me....I can speak for myself and do.


between PS and I , we know he is a tory... you jumping in just proves you assume a lot of crap you dont have a clue about.
It shows
Amusingly





When all else fails, rather than facing up to their own inadequacies and pretensions, accusing others of hate is the preferred option of some posters.



Literally LOL. Miss get threads shut down right and left from bigot statements. Please post that link again so everyone can read the whole thing and see you for what you are. I know you have it saved. I also know you didn't read the part that showed you were just wrong and hysterical.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:23:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

nobody has to walk point for me....I can speak for myself and do.


between PS and I , we know he is a tory... you jumping in just proves you assume a lot of crap you dont have a clue about.
It shows
Amusingly





When all else fails, rather than facing up to their own inadequacies and pretensions, accusing others of hate is the preferred option of some posters.



. Miss get threads shut down right and left from bigot statements.


I've never had a thread shut down due to my posts in my posting history here. IF you have any evidence to show otherwise produce it.

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Please post that link again so everyone can read the whole thing and see you for what you are. I know you have it saved.

My pleasure:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4809821/mpage_3/tm.htm from post#54 onwards



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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:25:11 PM   
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You just did yesterday dear.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:29:02 PM   
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Really?? That's news to me. Does this thread that I am alleged to have had "shut down" have a title? Or are you just making up lies again?

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:30:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

nobody has to walk point for me....I can speak for myself and do.


between PS and I , we know he is a tory... you jumping in just proves you assume a lot of crap you dont have a clue about.
It shows
Amusingly





When all else fails, rather than facing up to their own inadequacies and pretensions, accusing others of hate is the preferred option of some posters.



. Miss get threads shut down right and left from bigot statements.


I've never had a thread shut down due to my posts in my posting history here. IF you have any evidence to show otherwise produce it.

quote:

Please post that link again so everyone can read the whole thing and see you for what you are. I know you have it saved.

My pleasure:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4809821/mpage_3/tm.htm from post#54 onwards




Here you are dear, your latest thread you shut down with your bigotry:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4810304/tm.htm

Shall I keep that. No I think not.


I didn't read all your link, reading your stuff is so hateful it's depressing. Does it include the stuff I linked from Boston University that totally refutes you? Or is it you don't understand my link and don't realize your ass is hanging out?

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:39:21 PM   
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I am not mentioned in Mod3's post, nor have I received a gold letter:
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Mod3
I doubt seriously that I need to explain what went wrong here.

Perhaps you all can see fit to actually pay attention to more than politics and bashing one another. Like how the feisty sections will not be post for post attacks on other posters/the other party.


Making up lies again. Naughty boy Hunter.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:44:03 PM   
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I am not mentioned in Mod3's post, nor have I received a gold letter:
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Mod3
I doubt seriously that I need to explain what went wrong here.

Perhaps you all can see fit to actually pay attention to more than politics and bashing one another. Like how the feisty sections will not be post for post attacks on other posters/the other party.


Making up lies again. Naughty boy Hunter.


Provided links tweak dear. Read and lament your ignorance and hate.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:51:55 PM   
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I didn't read all your link, reading your stuff is so hateful it's depressing. Does it include the stuff I linked from Boston University that totally refutes you?

The accusation I made against you was that you had started a thread criticising post modernism while your own posts made it very obvious that you hadn't a clue what post modernism is. This is obvious to anyone who does understand post modernism. I do have some understanding of post modernism. I teach it at a tertiary level.

You were hung by the evidence of your own posts. You made erroneous claims about post modernism that no one who understood the most basic element of post modernism would make. So no amount of supporting evidence, however tenuous it may be, can exonerate you.

I am getting very bored pointing out the obvious to morons. So I won't be responding to your lies any further.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/2/2015 8:55:39 PM   
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I didn't read all your link, reading your stuff is so hateful it's depressing. Does it include the stuff I linked from Boston University that totally refutes you?

The accusation I made against you was that you had started a thread criticising post modernism while your own posts made it very obvious that you hadn't a clue what post modernism is. This is obvious to anyone who does understand post modernism. I do have some understanding of post modernism. I teach it at a tertiary level.

You were hung by the evidence of your own posts. You made erroneous claims about post modernism that no one who understood the most basic element of post modernism would make. So no amount of supporting evidence, however tenuous it may be, can exonerate you.

I am getting very bored pointing out the obvious to morons. So I won't be responding to your lies any further.



Good dear, a graceful bow out from an ignorant person. I'm sorry you didn't understand the links I provided that show your inadequate understanding. But, if you really are a teacher, God forbid, I'm glad you're getting out.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/3/2015 8:35:15 AM   
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Thank you for your concern/idea.

My partner and I have discussed this, actually. However, just because gay rights may be better in other places, it does not mean what I want is valued the same. Also, I do not believe in running from your countries issues, but attempting to make a change. I am a firm believer in the saying "Be the Change you wish to see in the world" by Ghandi. I really would like to be part of that change, and I fear that by people giving up and not attempting to make a change via education, responsible voting(like CA alluded to), and actual education of people who don't understand or are ignorant of things that need to be changed, that we are letting ourselves and the future generations down. Call me a dreamer, or an Optimist, but Lord knows we need to have some of us around!

well.. it doesn't have to be one or the other.. you can do both!.. you can do all that "be the change" stuff from another country.. as an American expat you can still vote, with the internet and social media etc you can "be the voice of change" & educate those that need educating.. you can visit the US to participate in protests etc.. you can donate to pro-gay groups, support/buy from pro-gay US based businesses.. etc.. You dont have to "run" from the problem (which could take generations to change here), if you can have the lifestyle you want in another country, then why make it so hard on yourself & your partner by staying here? and imo the benefits of leaving are well beyond just the gay issue to many other important issues as well..

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/3/2015 8:45:17 AM   
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http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/about-us/our-blog/69-no-state/2596-how-many-people-with-serious-mental-illness-are-homeless

http://www.bestmswprograms.com/mental-illness-homelessness-criminal-behavior/

Not surprisingly, mental illness often prolongs homelessness. Approximately 26 percent of homeless adults staying in shelters live with serious mental illness and an estimated 66 percent live with severe mental illness and/or substance use disorders.

You should really check your facts before you show your idiocity. (Is idiocity a real word). Now that we're past the "most" part just with the mentally ill and/or substance use addictions, shall I get the criminal statistics. Or can you do that by yourself as you're taking your head out of your proverbial appendage?


it depends on how the stats are compiled.. many homeless working poor couch surf, live in hotels, even live on the street (rather than go to a shelter) so if you only count homeless people living in shelters you are missing a huge number of homeless people and families and children..

"One in 45 children experience homelessness in America each year. That's over 1.6 million children."

http://www.familyhomelessness.org/children.php?p=ts

eta- And while its not not third world poverty, for a country such as the US, with its riches (unfortunately in the hands of the 1%), its pretty sickening none-the-less..

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/3/2015 8:52:55 AM   
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with so many Americans living in poverty or homeless or on the verge of being homeless and the middle class dwindled to the point it is, I think the robbing has already been done..



I thought the "Yes we can" man was going to fix all of that, with his full control of the House and Senate

With his trillions in stimulus dollars for all of his pet causes

Guess we need to really double down on his brand of Marxist and Alinsky politics before we hope to see change we can believe in though

Aint it always the case though

the change you believe in is very different from the change I believe in.. that wont happen with the boot of industry/big corps/lobbyists firmly stomping on the neck of Americans..

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/3/2015 3:48:10 PM   
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nobody has to walk point for me....I can speak for myself and do.


between PS and I , we know he is a tory... you jumping in just proves you assume a lot of crap you dont have a clue about.
It shows
Amusingly



QFT............ Thanks all the same Lucy but dear Hunter cant stand the thought someone from the right also thinks his posts are nothing more than drivel.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/3/2015 3:51:50 PM   
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Your own post just supports what I said........... many thanks. And no, I refuse to think for you, so you work it out for yourself.


Hey PS, you know who you remind me of? I just thought of it. Did you ever hear the song by Arlo Guthry called Alice's Restaurant? It was a lampoon of the U.S. draft system during the Vietnam war. It's a hilarious song. But that's not who you remind me of. In the song this guy litters and is sent before a judge and the judge sends him to Vietnam. Back in that time the U.S. didn't have a death penalty. Well people thought that. But it really did. Because the courts were sentencing people to Vietnam.

So the guy you remind me of is this guy I worked with on a survey crew for about a year. He had been sent to jail and the judge sentenced him and seventeen others to the Army. Of course when he got to the Army they, finding him a social misfit, taught him to walk point, with a dog. Of the eighteen guy's sentenced that day to the Army, he was the only one who came back alive. That's despite the fact that he stayed an extra six months to do the paper work to bring his dog back....oh and two sever wounds. All things considered, killing off 17 of 18 people in a couple of years was a pretty effective capital punishment. But, that's another thread.

Anyway, the dogs they used were usually trained to locate and kill Vietnamese people. So, usually the Army wouldn't let them come back. If the dog couldn't work with a new handler when a guy rotated out, they put the dog down. So he walked point for a year and a half with his dog, lived and brought his dog home. Oh, the dog was wounded three times as I recall. Anyway PS, I have a feeling you'd spend the extra six months walking point in order to bring your dog home. But, that's not all.

That son of a gun was either the most naturally charmed person or the most unlucky I ever saw. We could have an eight man grew walking through brush out in the middle of the desert on a trai, I saw this personally three times and heard about another two. No matter where he was in the column, as he walked by a rattle snake would strike at him and miss somehow. He could be the eight person through or the first person through and the damn rattle snake would strike for him. But, those darn snakes always missed. This guy walked through it all totally oblivious to things around him and suddenly a snake would strike...and miss.

That's how I see you. Walking point for all your ol lefty friends, snakes shrinking at you, missing, you totally oblivious except you'll do it for another six months to bring your dog home.

Hehe, I remember one day I was talking to this fellow. He told me over the weekend he'd gone to the Phoenix flea market. He took his dog. Suddenly his dog triggered and started pulling at the leash. The dog was big and this guy was small. (No comparison to you here, just a story). Anyway, the fellow figured out the dog smelled a Vietnamese person and was going to go kill him. Because of diet, the dog could tell the difference in smell. The fellow was having a hell of a time trying to control his dog. (Generally why the army didn't want the dogs to go home). So he sent one of his kids ahead to warn the Vietnamese person. That person, understanding what the dog was, left the flea market and everything settled down. It was funny as hell how this fellow told the story.


While I just see you as a tosser, plain, simple, and much more concise.

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/3/2015 6:00:25 PM   
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Thank you for your concern/idea.

My partner and I have discussed this, actually. However, just because gay rights may be better in other places, it does not mean what I want is valued the same. Also, I do not believe in running from your countries issues, but attempting to make a change. I am a firm believer in the saying "Be the Change you wish to see in the world" by Ghandi. I really would like to be part of that change, and I fear that by people giving up and not attempting to make a change via education, responsible voting(like CA alluded to), and actual education of people who don't understand or are ignorant of things that need to be changed, that we are letting ourselves and the future generations down. Call me a dreamer, or an Optimist, but Lord knows we need to have some of us around!

well.. it doesn't have to be one or the other.. you can do both!.. you can do all that "be the change" stuff from another country.. as an American expat you can still vote, with the internet and social media etc you can "be the voice of change" & educate those that need educating.. you can visit the US to participate in protests etc.. you can donate to pro-gay groups, support/buy from pro-gay US based businesses.. etc.. You dont have to "run" from the problem (which could take generations to change here), if you can have the lifestyle you want in another country, then why make it so hard on yourself & your partner by staying here? and imo the benefits of leaving are well beyond just the gay issue to many other important issues as well..



We recently had a SLP(Speech/Language Path) student and she said "Come up to Canada!". She was from Quebec. Who knows, it may be in the stars for us when the kids are all grown and out of the house!

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RE: Oscar Wilde's revenge: Ireland votes Yes to Marriag... - 6/3/2015 6:11:31 PM   
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nobody has to walk point for me....I can speak for myself and do.


between PS and I , we know he is a tory... you jumping in just proves you assume a lot of crap you dont have a clue about.
It shows
Amusingly





When all else fails, rather than facing up to their own inadequacies and pretensions, accusing others of hate is the preferred option of some posters.



. Miss get threads shut down right and left from bigot statements.


I've never had a thread shut down due to my posts in my posting history here. IF you have any evidence to show otherwise produce it.

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Please post that link again so everyone can read the whole thing and see you for what you are. I know you have it saved.

My pleasure:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4809821/mpage_3/tm.htm from post#54 onwards




Here you are dear, your latest thread you shut down with your bigotry:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4810304/tm.htm

Shall I keep that. No I think not.


I didn't read all your link, reading your stuff is so hateful it's depressing. Does it include the stuff I linked from Boston University that totally refutes you? Or is it you don't understand my link and don't realize your ass is hanging out?


I have had enough. I am getting reports, going from thread to thread with the same people hashing it out together. None evil, all going back and forth and pushing buttons however they can. Thread to thread, I have had to go and see if there is harassment. I'd say if one of you are harassing someone, the others are right in there with you.

That would be the only guideline offence. Now, if you all want to go back and forth and use the feisty section, I would recommend not including me when you all must admit, you are all doing about the same things. One may step out a bit further in one way and the other in another way, but really, you all are engaging which is your choice. There are other choices.

That thread was closed not because of one person, but a number of them going at one another. Feisty is feisty. What can I say? You chose to post in feisty, you get feisty. You give some, you take some, whats the problem? When a number of posts outnumber or seem to, as I can't take the time to constantly count posts to fine line it, a thread will be shut down.

Accusing someone of getting a thread shut down is unacceptable to use as you ammo.

Harassment. So you all got me on that harassment thing. At this point, I could take everyone out for going thread to thread going at one another, but has anyone really crossed a line other than going back and forth which is allowed?

When you decide to pick one another apart, thread after thread and then call me in as a referee, I will not be a happy one. I might just start taking everyone out.

You are in a section where a lot of this is allowed. The minute you stop engaging, the other has a choice. When I see that you aren't engaging and someone keeps poking a stick at you, then I might consider harassment. Until then, it is a feisty war between people constantly from thread to thread going at one another. I am not into splitting babies as a biblical figure was said to have threatened to find the real mother. Don't put me in that position.

You all might consider that just because you can, doesn't mean it is always the best thing to do and find some solutions rather than a referee for a continuous fight. I won't be that. Then again, you could consider posting in a safer area called Current Affairs.

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