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Sanity -> Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 8:13:18 AM)


At least they can use their bolivars for toilet paper

(Which they have trouble keeping on the shelves)

(Along with many other basic goods)


quote:

Currency tumbles as Venezuelans look to unload bolivars

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuelans are dumping their rapidly depreciating currency at an ever quicker pace as the crisis-plagued economy edges dangerously close to an outbreak of hyperinflation.

DolarToday, a widely followed website that tracks exchanges made near the Colombian border, reported Friday that the bolivar had lost a quarter of its value over the last seven days.

Everyone in smartphone-obsessed Caracas seemed to learn of the crash at the same time as the DolarToday app, a ubiquitous tool in the South American country, sent out a series of messages announcing the new rates under the headline "hyperinflation!"

...

DolarToday is openly hostile to the socialist government and frequently picks up articles attacking the administration. But the site insists its exchange-rate reports are based on actual trades at the border and are not manipulated to undercut the government.

In April, Maduro repeated his assertion that the site's shadowy managers, whose identities are not public, are collaborating with the speculators and opposition leaders he blames for the country's problems. He accused them of purposely sowing chaos and promised to have them arrested.

"We're going to put those people at DolarToday who are waging an economic war against Venezuela behind bars sooner rather than later" he said.

The site, which is sometimes blocked within Venezuela, responded with a cheeky video documenting its popularity set to the club hit "Turn Down for What."


If they were smart, they would embrace capitalism again [;)]




mnottertail -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 8:20:01 AM)

Uh, that is not marxism that is free market communism, and believe me, capitalist countries dump currencies all the time.

But why are you commenting on economics or fiscal responsibility, clearly you are unknowledgeable in these areas.




Sanity -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 8:23:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Uh, that is not marxism that is free market communism, and believe me, capitalist countries dump currencies all the time.

But why are you commenting on economics or fiscal responsibility, clearly you are unknowledgeable in these areas.


Its the Associated Press that is "commenting on it" you dumb ass [:D]




Sanity -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 8:36:09 AM)


FR

The DolarToday website

The DolarToday website, translated into English by the Google website translator

Free speech is necessarily outlawed under Marxist regimes, everything must be strictly controlled

(Because Marxists are so smart)




mnottertail -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 8:39:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Uh, that is not marxism that is free market communism, and believe me, capitalist countries dump currencies all the time.

But why are you commenting on economics or fiscal responsibility, clearly you are unknowledgeable in these areas.


Its the Associated Press that is "commenting on it" you dumb ass [:D]




Then why is there a thread here? I see the OP is not the associated press. In any case, they are a dictatorship. And not marxist. You dont know what marxist is.




Sanity -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 8:53:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Then why is there a thread here? I see the OP is not the associated press.


I didnt write the OP. That little thing that says "AP" means "Associated Press"

Heres the link to the article on Yahoo:

http://news.yahoo.com/currency-tumbles-venezuelans-look-offload-bolivars-161058938.html

Its where we are headed if we keep electing politicians who are eager to promise more and more "free" government hand-outs for votes

Like in Venezuela

Hell, we are halfway there now

[img]https://profalbrecht.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/inflation.jpg[/img]

('Cause Marxists are so smart) [sm=marionette.gif]




mnottertail -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 8:55:24 AM)

We are more than halfway there thru rightwing borrow and spend and free market communism.

And the Original Poster is not the associated press, Tommie.




Sanity -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:07:45 AM)


Your posts are boring, and monotonous. Literally a broken record. If all you are going to 'contribute' to these threads are these weak, predictable attempts at insults, at least TRY to make them half witty once in a while?

There are much better comments under the article.

Here are a few:

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Yahoo: America is going down the same road as Venezuela, the piles of Debt, brought on by the Obama Dictator, doubling the Debt to over 18 Trillion, and it will surely be over 20 Trillion when the worthless Marxist leaves office. I ask you what will the dollar be worth, everything you have worked for will be gone in an instant, as soon as the dollar is dethroned, by the either the Chinese dollar, or a world currency, and it is fast on its way... You Socialist, Communist, America haters are going down with the rest of us.....

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john 25 minutes ago: turn...off...fox...news. back away from the tv. the country is no where NEAR as bad as they are telling you. relax. live and let live.

sarah 22 minutes ago:Poor john you are a clueless, foolish drone, the perfect grubercrat. yes, gruber was talking about you.


See, at least they put SOME thought into it

I especially liked the Gruber line, made me think of more than a few of the "liberal" posters here [:)]




Tkman117 -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:18:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Your posts are boring, and monotonous. Literally a broken record. If all you are going to 'contribute' to these threads are these weak, predictable attempts at insults, at least TRY to make them half witty once in a while?


Lol, oh the irony XD




Sanity -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:23:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

Lol, oh the irony XD


Wow, almost as profound as a mnot post... [:D]

More from Yahoo! posters... Lets see if we can kick start some actual wit here:

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Where are Danny Glover and Shaun Penn? They insulted America while extolling the virtues of Venezuelan Socialism. Man, if America could only emulate Venezuela. You know confiscate all the rich oil money and tax the dirty capitalist out of existence. Why America would be a paradise just like Venezuela. Wasn't that pretty much the claim of you two morons?

Progressive socialism is a relic of 19th century Communist economics. It doesn't work. It sows shortages, shrunken GDP and shared misery. It also sows totalitarianism. Do you think Danny Glover and Shaun Penn have learned a lesson from Venezuela's collapse? Nah.
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dennis 2 hours ago
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Yep, we need to give all the money to the 1% and let them decide how everyone else is going to live. Trickle down economics has never worked and never will.
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LIJOE 2 hours ago
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How come we never see people like them move to those countries that they claim are so great?
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BWINKLEJMOOSE 2 hours ago
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Dennis what a stupid thing to say. No one "gives" the 1% money. They earn it. Just because you are too dense to educate yourself or maybe just too lazy, you post your envy and hatred of people who have done better in life than you. Go to Venezuela. Live the Progressive life down there.
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James Fogleman 2 hours ago
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Dennis; you insulted Obama's friends.
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dennis 1 hour ago
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Most of the people in the 1% got their money from the blood, sweat and tears of poor working people.
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James Fogleman 1 hour ago
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dennis gets all his money from the backs of people who work & pay taxes.
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Rude 49 minutes ago
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Dennis, care to share your examples? The Obamas and the Clintons are in the 1%. By your logic, at least 3 of the 4 made their money from the blood and sweat and tears of the poor! It's true that Democrats earn their living and owe their livelihood to the perpetuation of the poor and keeping them dependent. However, you can't argue that keeping people dependent and dumb is forcing someone to labor and sweat for them. Let's take another example, how about Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates or Warren Buffet. They are billionaires. Who or what poor person did they enslave and exploit to get their billions? Just answer one of these examples and I would be happy... As usual, you incompetent liberals who envy success like to put a strawmen and paint what you demonize(but secretly wish to be) as an absolute evil. Name one poor person who came up with a cure that benefitted mankind or a socialist state that actually cared about human dignity... You can't because that's an oxy-moron. I wish I too still had the mental prowess of a 4 year old. Life would be so blissful!
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BWINKLEJMOOSE 15 minutes ago
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Really Dennis? Where's your proof? Try reading The Millionaire next door. You would find out that most (not all) Millionaires and Multi-millionaires in America are small business people. I would be considered rich by your low standards. I worked and saved and invested for close to 4 decades. It's how you get wealthy in America.
You sound like one of life's losers Dennis. Get an attitude change. Better yet, get a job.




mnottertail -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:25:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Your posts are boring, and monotonous. Literally a broken record. If all you are going to 'contribute' to these threads are these weak, predictable attempts at insults, at least TRY to make them half witty once in a while?

There are much better comments under the article.

Here are a few:

quote:



Yahoo: America is going down the same road as Venezuela, the piles of Debt, brought on by the Obama Dictator, doubling the Debt to over 18 Trillion, and it will surely be over 20 Trillion when the worthless Marxist leaves office. I ask you what will the dollar be worth, everything you have worked for will be gone in an instant, as soon as the dollar is dethroned, by the either the Chinese dollar, or a world currency, and it is fast on its way... You Socialist, Communist, America haters are going down with the rest of us.....

Replies (2)

john 25 minutes ago: turn...off...fox...news. back away from the tv. the country is no where NEAR as bad as they are telling you. relax. live and let live.

sarah 22 minutes ago:Poor john you are a clueless, foolish drone, the perfect grubercrat. yes, gruber was talking about you.


See, at least they put SOME thought into it

I especially liked the Gruber line, made me think of more than a few of the "liberal" posters here [:)]


You cannot attribute thought to slobbering asswipe. I especially think it shows the felching imbecility of the "rightwingshitbreathers" and makes me think of all the rightwing shitbreathers here [[[[[)))))))))}}}}}}}





Sanity -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:28:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You cannot attribute thought to slobbering asswipe. I especially think it shows the felching imbecility of the "rightwingshitbreathers" and makes me think of all the rightwing shitbreathers here [[[[[)))))))))}}}}}}}



Hardly wit, mnot. May have passed for wit in Jr High but you need to reach a lot deeper than that, Alinsky would even be ashamed

Remember, try for WIT. Sewer is not wit...

Dig really deep







joether -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:32:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


At least they can use their bolivars for toilet paper

(Which they have trouble keeping on the shelves)

(Along with many other basic goods)


quote:

Currency tumbles as Venezuelans look to unload bolivars

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuelans are dumping their rapidly depreciating currency at an ever quicker pace as the crisis-plagued economy edges dangerously close to an outbreak of hyperinflation.

DolarToday, a widely followed website that tracks exchanges made near the Colombian border, reported Friday that the bolivar had lost a quarter of its value over the last seven days.

Everyone in smartphone-obsessed Caracas seemed to learn of the crash at the same time as the DolarToday app, a ubiquitous tool in the South American country, sent out a series of messages announcing the new rates under the headline "hyperinflation!"

...

DolarToday is openly hostile to the socialist government and frequently picks up articles attacking the administration. But the site insists its exchange-rate reports are based on actual trades at the border and are not manipulated to undercut the government.

In April, Maduro repeated his assertion that the site's shadowy managers, whose identities are not public, are collaborating with the speculators and opposition leaders he blames for the country's problems. He accused them of purposely sowing chaos and promised to have them arrested.

"We're going to put those people at DolarToday who are waging an economic war against Venezuela behind bars sooner rather than later" he said.

The site, which is sometimes blocked within Venezuela, responded with a cheeky video documenting its popularity set to the club hit "Turn Down for What."


If they were smart, they would embrace capitalism again [;)]


Hyperinflation can hit....*ANYONE*.....including the United States of America. Which is why it takes a number of mathematicians and economists to put in a heavy amount of work to make adjustments to an economy. Consider it like a giganitc box that is three hundred feet on a side (a metaphor). On each side are thousands of nobs, gauges, and buttons. During normal times, its easy to just walk around and make adjustments here and there; the whole thing flows nicely. When things get out of control, people are running every wich way to make corrections. Unfortunately no one is checking with each other; so somethings do two opposite processes and create five new problems. No one wants to shut the machine down for a reset because that is bad. So the question becomes: At what point is it better to shut the whole machine done, rather than let it spiral out of control (i.e at one point is it doing more damage than a shutdown would?)?

Recessions, Depressions, and 'bad times' world in similar ways to that metaphor.

That you want to harp on a socialistic country is nothing new either. You view that capitalism is the only economic system to have in a nation. Yet, you too have no come up with an effective way to handle the fatal flaw of capitalism: Greed.

Sounds to me that the culprit to all of this is some app produce by DolarToday. Its not unheard of, of a group using technology to undermine economic prices in a geographical area. Unless DOlarToday is make a political bid to undermine a whole nation; they are in major trouble. Not from a pesky lawsuit either. That country will want some 'payback' in the form of blood. Anyone associated with DolarToday better make themselves as scarce as possible for the next fifty years!

While your happily trashing the nation Sanity, don't let anyone point out the obvious to you. That's of the oil market. Venezuela is the second largest supplier of oil in the world. Their economy gets fucked up; it does effect things down the road to other groups and nations that depend on that oil. Their markets could get screwed up, which could effect other groups and nations. In your glee to hate on some socialistic nation, you really didn't stop to consider the ramifications of possible events that could unfold over the next few days, weeks, months and possibility years. Hard to say, but this could even effect the United States (whom last I checked was a regulated form of capitalism).




mnottertail -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:33:32 AM)

As you do from your ass with your tongue? Please. You are witless, as are all the rightwing shiteaters. The communist free market and its minions, the rightwing who are not conservative, republican, nor fiscally responsible are driving us deeper in debt, while they ship our jobs overseas to their masters.

We can tell this by the fact that the house, overwhelmingly for some time now, (and you can see this by debt) is run by these rightwing morons who have done nothing but borrow and spend, and hang out for photo ops with criminals and sociopaths are running the countries checkbook.

They do not have possession of fact, and say stupid shit like well...............here you are. In any case, if your idea of marxism is a dictatorship and small government, then you are sort of a marxist yourself, arent you?




Sanity -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:36:21 AM)


[sm=applause.gif]

Thats a little better. There you go. Keep working at it though.




mnottertail -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:37:00 AM)

but let us not decieve ourselves the gestapo is hard at work destroying the country and displaying no shame in their buffoonery:

[image]local://upfiles/61037/01D0529B11224237A55D272E1AD6468B.jpg[/image]




Sanity -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:37:48 AM)


Already backsliding

[img]http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/277/1/a/a_broken_record_5000_by_yotrailmix-d303uk7.jpg[/img]




HunterCA -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:42:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tkman117


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Your posts are boring, and monotonous. Literally a broken record. If all you are going to 'contribute' to these threads are these weak, predictable attempts at insults, at least TRY to make them half witty once in a while?


Lol, oh the irony XD



Wow, Nitman013, I pleased to see you understand the term irony. I Wouldhave believed it was beyond you. But, I do see your major contribution to the threat was an insult. That's not beyond you is it?




mnottertail -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:46:13 AM)

If you mean the major contribution to the thread is Sanities insult and imbecility, then you have hope.




mnottertail -> RE: Stand back folks - Marxism at work (5/23/2015 9:48:20 AM)

But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

1848 (Guess Who?)




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