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DesideriScuri -> RE: Food Police (5/25/2015 7:28:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
just call me toni the tigress, meow


LOL!

They need a smiley of a male smiley with a whip and a chair. lol




HunterCA -> RE: Food Police (5/25/2015 7:30:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I like my rice and pasta precooked, before doing what Hunter suggested, but yep been there done that and enjoyed the hell out of it, I would have enjoyed a bit more flavour regarding spice, or changed it up with some tomato soup, some peppers, beans, a touch of cream.....I usually cook from scratch for four now, but sometimes, mac n cheese or rice, soup and chicken is pure comfort food. And no apologies to the food police.




Hum, never thought of tomato soup. I'll have to try that. Usually I add tobacco or Vietnamese hot sauce for spice. I'll try your spices as well with the tomato soup.




HunterCA -> RE: Food Police (5/25/2015 7:33:24 PM)


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Hunter. 1 can pork & Beans, 1 lb ground beef (pour of fat), 1 pkg taco seasoning, 1 can diced green chili's, liberal amount of dried red peppers (like you use on your pizza). Brown beef, add rest of ingredients with 1 taco pkg of water, stir, simmer, serve with copious amounts of saltines. mmmmmmmmmm batchelor food

I forgot the garlic powder. mmmmmm



Okay, I'm going to try that without pouring off the fat. I might add a habanero pepper. We'll see. Okay, here's one. In a Pyrex bowl (I will accept being called a high end bachelor for the Pyrex) two chicken breasts and one can cream of mushroom soup. After the soup is in the bowl, fill it with dried rice and add to bowl. Then fill same said can with water and in to the bowl. Peas or okra can be added for color but are not necessary. Cover ( with the Pyrex lid of course) and put into the oven at whatever temperature. Anywhere from 350 to say 425. Sit down and have a beer. Sooner or later you'll smell something and it's done. A nice chicken breast over rice with a mushroom gravy.


My dad was a cowboy. LOL don't eat shroom soup or rice (we call it something else lol) and I never did like beer. Now pass a bottle of vodka wellllllllll lol



So use cream of chicken soup and frozen tater tots instead of mushroom soup and rice. Make sure the tater tots are frozen so they take as long to cook as the chicken, and it will probably happen faster than with dry rice. Gees man, use your bachelor powers of reason. Dry rice/frozen tater tots. It's just a regional things. Go with it.

stick a regular size spud in the nuke for 4 minutes....



I accept that as reasonable for him. I live in the boondocks, off grid, so I don't allow things like microwaves that have 1500 wats of power. Yes...that includes hair dryers too.




Lucylastic -> RE: Food Police (5/25/2015 7:41:34 PM)

tobacco? mmmmmmmmmmm
actually I m guessing you meant tabasco, but I love the smell of tobacco...
When im cooking just for me I also use minced beef too...some HP sauce, marmite or worcestor sauce n either tomato or chicken or onion soup is good(fresh or packet ...yes full of chemicals) but timely when Im working a deadline and want comfort foood.
Tonite tho I cooked chicken breast stuffed with bacon and cream cheese. cauliflower and broccoli and jacket potatoes, it was yummy too.




Lucylastic -> RE: Food Police (5/25/2015 7:43:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Hunter. 1 can pork & Beans, 1 lb ground beef (pour of fat), 1 pkg taco seasoning, 1 can diced green chili's, liberal amount of dried red peppers (like you use on your pizza). Brown beef, add rest of ingredients with 1 taco pkg of water, stir, simmer, serve with copious amounts of saltines. mmmmmmmmmm batchelor food

I forgot the garlic powder. mmmmmm



Okay, I'm going to try that without pouring off the fat. I might add a habanero pepper. We'll see. Okay, here's one. In a Pyrex bowl (I will accept being called a high end bachelor for the Pyrex) two chicken breasts and one can cream of mushroom soup. After the soup is in the bowl, fill it with dried rice and add to bowl. Then fill same said can with water and in to the bowl. Peas or okra can be added for color but are not necessary. Cover ( with the Pyrex lid of course) and put into the oven at whatever temperature. Anywhere from 350 to say 425. Sit down and have a beer. Sooner or later you'll smell something and it's done. A nice chicken breast over rice with a mushroom gravy.


My dad was a cowboy. LOL don't eat shroom soup or rice (we call it something else lol) and I never did like beer. Now pass a bottle of vodka wellllllllll lol



So use cream of chicken soup and frozen tater tots instead of mushroom soup and rice. Make sure the tater tots are frozen so they take as long to cook as the chicken, and it will probably happen faster than with dry rice. Gees man, use your bachelor powers of reason. Dry rice/frozen tater tots. It's just a regional things. Go with it.

stick a regular size spud in the nuke for 4 minutes....



I accept that as reasonable for him. I live in the boondocks, off grid, so I don't allow things like microwaves that have 1500 wats of power. Yes...that includes hair dryers too.

AHHHH then yeah that would be easier.....
I havent used a hair dryer in 15 years, my hair is over three foot long(I can sit on it) I always dry it sans dryer.




HunterCA -> RE: Food Police (5/25/2015 7:51:07 PM)

Well, then, see, in one metaphorical situation where I was smoking a hand rolled Dominical cigar and you were drying your hair with a towel, while we waited for the olfactory notification that the culinary master piece in the oven was done, we could get along.




Lucylastic -> RE: Food Police (5/25/2015 9:29:19 PM)

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KenDckey -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 12:52:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I like my rice and pasta precooked, before doing what Hunter suggested, but yep been there done that and enjoyed the hell out of it, I would have enjoyed a bit more flavour regarding spice, or changed it up with some tomato soup, some peppers, beans, a touch of cream.....I usually cook from scratch for four now, but sometimes, mac n cheese or rice, soup and chicken is pure comfort food. And no apologies to the food police.



I downloaded a free cookbook from Amazon. Think it was from 1912 or something like that. Had 100 yr old reciepies in it. You might like that. I know I use it for teaching how to cook over an open campfire in either my potgie or dutch oven




LipstickLeuger -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 5:39:34 PM)


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So I was sitting here wondering (I know it is dangerous). But with the FDA forcing Transfat from our diet because it is bad for us and the move to have soda banned from us because of its sugar content and because salt is bad for our heart, are they becoming the dieticians of our daily diet? I am sure we can all point out other examples of bad foods and ingredients for us to consume.

No more hot dogs at the game because of the salt content
No more soda - salt and sugar
No more cake - salt sugar and transfat

At what point are the people allowed to say enough let us eat what we want and suffer the consequences?


How dare you wonder/think????? LMAO. It gets me into trouble often as well[:D]

In my opinion, it's too much babysitting and it conditions people to not take responsibility for their lives and their choices. That is IMO one of the biggest issues we face these days, not one wants to pay, after they play.....

Of course not everyone is educated at home on eating healthy. However, there are libraries, the internet, and other multiple sources(your doctor for example)where you could go to get information on eating healthy from. So ignorance is often a choice. It is actually much cheaper to eat unhealthy than healthy. Sure fruits and veggies and whole grain breads don't seem expensive if you have a good income, but white bread on sale for .99 , and Mac and Cheese in a box on sale for 1.00 ,is cheaper and more filling(takes less amount of it to fill you up)than greens and apples where you have to pay 2.00 a pound and 4.00 a pound respectively, and eat more to fill up. You get my drift I am sure.....so, for families on tighter budgets the sugar, fat and processed foods are actually cheaper. Companies make it that way as well to sell their products. So, of course they buy those items. For those who eat meat, leaner cuts of meats are much more than fattier ones. Plus a box of mac and cheese stays good for a long time, fresh fruit and veggies do not and require you to go out and buy them more often, running up your grocery bill and takes more time out of your day.

Even though I can see other points of view, I personally feel the FDAs role should be to only have truth in advertising on the package labels and consumers should be responsible for reading, and choosing, what they putting in their bodies.



Okay lipstickluger (I have to come up with a shorter nickname for you. I hope you take it as an expression of inclusion and acceptance when I do. The profile name is just to long to type) don't be hating on my Mac and cheese. Actually, I buy the high end velveeta family box, which is completely made in the lab I'm sure. But dont be knocking Mac and cheese. Bachelors gotta eat too.


I love the Velveeta stuff myself. Sorry for hatin'....haters gonna hate.....[:D]

I don't mind a shorter nick name, I'm pretty mellow.




LipstickLeuger -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 5:51:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LipstickLeuger

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

So I was sitting here wondering (I know it is dangerous). But with the FDA forcing Transfat from our diet because it is bad for us and the move to have soda banned from us because of its sugar content and because salt is bad for our heart, are they becoming the dieticians of our daily diet? I am sure we can all point out other examples of bad foods and ingredients for us to consume.

No more hot dogs at the game because of the salt content
No more soda - salt and sugar
No more cake - salt sugar and transfat

At what point are the people allowed to say enough let us eat what we want and suffer the consequences?


How dare you wonder/think????? LMAO. It gets me into trouble often as well[:D]

In my opinion, it's too much babysitting and it conditions people to not take responsibility for their lives and their choices. That is IMO one of the biggest issues we face these days, not one wants to pay, after they play.....

Of course not everyone is educated at home on eating healthy. However, there are libraries, the internet, and other multiple sources(your doctor for example)where you could go to get information on eating healthy from. So ignorance is often a choice. It is actually much cheaper to eat unhealthy than healthy. Sure fruits and veggies and whole grain breads don't seem expensive if you have a good income, but white bread on sale for .99 , and Mac and Cheese in a box on sale for 1.00 ,is cheaper and more filling(takes less amount of it to fill you up)than greens and apples where you have to pay 2.00 a pound and 4.00 a pound respectively, and eat more to fill up. You get my drift I am sure.....so, for families on tighter budgets the sugar, fat and processed foods are actually cheaper. Companies make it that way as well to sell their products. So, of course they buy those items. For those who eat meat, leaner cuts of meats are much more than fattier ones. Plus a box of mac and cheese stays good for a long time, fresh fruit and veggies do not and require you to go out and buy them more often, running up your grocery bill and takes more time out of your day.

Even though I can see other points of view, I personally feel the FDAs role should be to only have truth in advertising on the package labels and consumers should be responsible for reading, and choosing, what they putting in their bodies.


I was watching something recently - it might have been "Fed Up" - and a woman was telling the interviewer that she had started feeding her obese son low-fat chips in order to help him lose weight. She changed her grocery shopping to incorporate more of these low-fat processed foods, and she genuinely thought she was doing the right thing. This was what she had learned. And how is she to know it's not true, when it's marketed all over the place as true? She was ignorant, yes, but she wasn't making the choice to be. She genuinely didn't know any better. I found it pretty startling, actually.


No fat is bad also because no fat or low fat products often have increased sugars in them and you eat a ton more to fill up on and there goes your calories for the day. LOL So, back in the early 90's, when we were all eating low and no fat, we were actually eating worse than if we ate fat. Everyone gained weight by the tons and could not figure out why. Meh. I say moderation in all things.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 6:44:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
I downloaded a free cookbook from Amazon. Think it was from 1912 or something like that. Had 100 yr old reciepies in it. You might like that. I know I use it for teaching how to cook over an open campfire in either my potgie or dutch oven


Technically, if it's a 1912 cookbook, it can only have 100+ year old recipes in it. [:D]




HunterCA -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 7:04:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LipstickLeuger


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


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ORIGINAL: LipstickLeuger

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

So I was sitting here wondering (I know it is dangerous). But with the FDA forcing Transfat from our diet because it is bad for us and the move to have soda banned from us because of its sugar content and because salt is bad for our heart, are they becoming the dieticians of our daily diet? I am sure we can all point out other examples of bad foods and ingredients for us to consume.

No more hot dogs at the game because of the salt content
No more soda - salt and sugar
No more cake - salt sugar and transfat

At what point are the people allowed to say enough let us eat what we want and suffer the consequences?


How dare you wonder/think????? LMAO. It gets me into trouble often as well[:D]

In my opinion, it's too much babysitting and it conditions people to not take responsibility for their lives and their choices. That is IMO one of the biggest issues we face these days, not one wants to pay, after they play.....

Of course not everyone is educated at home on eating healthy. However, there are libraries, the internet, and other multiple sources(your doctor for example)where you could go to get information on eating healthy from. So ignorance is often a choice. It is actually much cheaper to eat unhealthy than healthy. Sure fruits and veggies and whole grain breads don't seem expensive if you have a good income, but white bread on sale for .99 , and Mac and Cheese in a box on sale for 1.00 ,is cheaper and more filling(takes less amount of it to fill you up)than greens and apples where you have to pay 2.00 a pound and 4.00 a pound respectively, and eat more to fill up. You get my drift I am sure.....so, for families on tighter budgets the sugar, fat and processed foods are actually cheaper. Companies make it that way as well to sell their products. So, of course they buy those items. For those who eat meat, leaner cuts of meats are much more than fattier ones. Plus a box of mac and cheese stays good for a long time, fresh fruit and veggies do not and require you to go out and buy them more often, running up your grocery bill and takes more time out of your day.

Even though I can see other points of view, I personally feel the FDAs role should be to only have truth in advertising on the package labels and consumers should be responsible for reading, and choosing, what they putting in their bodies.



Okay lipstickluger (I have to come up with a shorter nickname for you. I hope you take it as an expression of inclusion and acceptance when I do. The profile name is just to long to type) don't be hating on my Mac and cheese. Actually, I buy the high end velveeta family box, which is completely made in the lab I'm sure. But dont be knocking Mac and cheese. Bachelors gotta eat too.


I love the Velveeta stuff myself. Sorry for hatin'....haters gonna hate.....[:D]

I don't mind a shorter nick name, I'm pretty mellow.



I'm going to go with "LL" for short.

I'm sure that MercTech will have gastly things to say about velveeta. I'm going to just close my eyes to that. But, in the vein of bachelore meals. Mix up a pot of the family size box of velveeta Mac and it's good alone. Throw in a can of chile and you have chile Mac. Or throw in a can of stewed tomatoes and you have macamatoes which is surprisingly good. Of course a can of diced green chilles in any of those recipes is good.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 7:10:57 PM)

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I'm going to go with "LL" for short.
I'm sure that MercTech will have gastly things to say about velveeta. I'm going to just close my eyes to that. But, in the vein of bachelore meals. Mix up a pot of the family size box of velveeta Mac and it's good alone. Throw in a can of chile and you have chile Mac. Or throw in a can of stewed tomatoes and you have macamatoes which is surprisingly good. Of course a can of diced green chilles in any of those recipes is good.


One can of tuna, drained, in a box of Kraft Mac 'n' Cheese is about right. Of course, you could go with canned chicken, or diced ham, too. My boys would rather have Kraft than homemade, too. I'll never understand it. I have whipped up a 4 cheese (cream cheese, extra sharp cheddar, mild cheddar, and muenster) masterpiece, only to have them complain about it not tasting like Kraft. They just roll their eyes when I agree and point out it actually tastes like cheese, though.




HunterCA -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 7:16:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA
I'm going to go with "LL" for short.
I'm sure that MercTech will have gastly things to say about velveeta. I'm going to just close my eyes to that. But, in the vein of bachelore meals. Mix up a pot of the family size box of velveeta Mac and it's good alone. Throw in a can of chile and you have chile Mac. Or throw in a can of stewed tomatoes and you have macamatoes which is surprisingly good. Of course a can of diced green chilles in any of those recipes is good.


One can of tuna, drained, in a box of Kraft Mac 'n' Cheese is about right. Of course, you could go with canned chicken, or diced ham, too. My boys would rather have Kraft than homemade, too. I'll never understand it. I have whipped up a 4 cheese (cream cheese, extra sharp cheddar, mild cheddar, and muenster) masterpiece, only to have them complain about it not tasting like Kraft. They just roll their eyes when I agree and point out it actually tastes like cheese, though.




Yea, I've done the tuna. It works. Generally there comes a time in every bachelors life where searching the pantry and making something up comes into play. I do usually add real cheese to my Mac. Oh, and I have a friend who uses your craft Mac and cheese differently. He takes the cheese powder and adds it to hamburger. He tosses the macaroni. So the cheese gets cooked into the hamburger.




Aylee -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 8:44:49 PM)

Saute an onion, add hamburger and some garlic and mix it with mac'n'cheese. I love that meal. You can add some broccoli as well.




HunterCA -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 9:06:00 PM)


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Saute an onion, add hamburger and some garlic and mix it with mac'n'cheese. I love that meal. You can add some broccoli as well.



What!!! Add something green and not cooked in butter or bacon grease? Is this one of those chicky things you were referencing while we discussed Buffy?




Aylee -> RE: Food Police (5/26/2015 10:50:04 PM)


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Saute an onion, add hamburger and some garlic and mix it with mac'n'cheese. I love that meal. You can add some broccoli as well.



What!!! Add something green and not cooked in butter or bacon grease? Is this one of those chicky things you were referencing while we discussed Buffy?


But the broccoli is covered in CHEESE! Glorious CHEESE!

Could be a chicky thing. I still like it.

I suppose you could add bacon bits.




KenDckey -> RE: Food Police (5/27/2015 12:02:24 AM)

From the 1912 cookbook a couple cookie receipes from the early 1800's

HERMITS


1 Cupful of Sugar ½ Cupful of Molasses
2/ 3 Cupful of Butter 2 Eggs
1 Cupful of Raisins, Chopped Fine 2 Tablespoonfuls of Milk
1 Teaspoonful of Soda 1 Teaspoonful of Cinnamon
1 Teaspoonful of Nutmeg ½ Teaspoonful of Cloves
Flour enough to roll
Cream the butter and sugar together, beat the eggs, add to the butter and sugar, then stir in the molasses, milk and spices. Add the raisins which have been covered with flour, and, last of all, the flour into which the dry soda has been sifted. Roll thin and cut with cooky-cutter.

JUMBLES

2 Cupfuls of Sugar 1 Cupful of Butter
½ Cupful of Milk 2 Eggs
1 Teaspoonful of Soda 2 Teaspoonfuls of Cream of Tartar
1 Teaspoonful of Lemon Flour enough to roll

Cream together the butter and sugar. Stir into the well-beaten egg. Add milk. Stir cream of tartar and soda into the flour, dry. Beat all together and flavor. Cut into rings and bake in a well-greased pan.




tweakabelle -> RE: Food Police (5/27/2015 12:41:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Saute an onion, add hamburger and some garlic and mix it with mac'n'cheese. I love that meal. You can add some broccoli as well.



What!!! Add something green and not cooked in butter or bacon grease? Is this one of those chicky things you were referencing while we discussed Buffy?


But the broccoli is covered in CHEESE! Glorious CHEESE!

Could be a chicky thing. I still like it.

I suppose you could add bacon bits.

If you threw in some portobello mushrooms, it might just make a broccoli dish enticing enough for me to be tempted ........




calmeilles -> RE: Food Police (5/27/2015 1:58:01 AM)

I'm always concerned by government prohibitions, each one needs to be carefully examined for justification.

The problem with food is that so much of it is processed in ways that we are not aware of that it becomes impossible to make informed choices.

Now food companies don't make stuff that will immediately cause you to drop down dead. Not that they wouldn't if they could make money out of it, but killing your customers so blatantly is not a way of getting return trade so they don't.

But suppose they did. The FDA comes along and says Bad! Put a label on it! and then the big yellow and black skull and cross-bones makes it clear; this is a great tasting product with unfortunate side effects: death. And the money stops because you have two types of customer: the intelligent and the dead, neither of whom are buying any more.

More subtly and more long term food companies are quite prepared to poison us slowly to turn a buck. As long as causation is distanced they're prepared to argue endlessly over the benefits and harms of sugar and salt, trans-fats and colorings. And the arguments go on because the revolving door shuffles executives between the FDA and the food corps.

So we get labels, this product contains 90% of the daily recommended intake of sodium, that one has 2 ounces of trans-fats. But because of the producer influence they're short of real information and in print that requires a magnifying glass to read. If big bright lettering on the front of the box said "Increases chance of heart attack by 50%", "Will make you fat", "Ruins your sex life" sales wouldn't be quite so buoyant.

So we get to the bans.

Take out the cheap-and-nasty ingredients and what happens? First the food corps go wailing to Congress offering campaign donations to every congress-critter that will vote against the legislation. If that fails...

We don't stop eating franks, but they're just a little bit better quality, just a cent or two more expensive and the manufacturers have to settle for a couple of hundredths of a cent less profit. And so too with sodas and sauces and Twinkies and Oreos and everything else that comes out of a factory.

Result; some of us aren't so fat; some of us don't have that heart attack and so on.

So when I think about this one I tend to think that the gubmint helping us not poison ourselves, even against our inclinations, is probably a Good Thing™.




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