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ORIGINAL: MercTech

The origin of margarine was when milk production was diverted into making nylon during WWII. The original margarine was lard with a packet of yellow food coloring and butter flavoring to be stirred into the lard. The some chemist found they could congeal cottonseed oil and corn oil that would otherwise be waste products by hydrogenating the vegetable lipids. Add flavoring and coloring you have margarine and "American" cheese.

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

The origin of margarine was when milk production was diverted into making nylon during WWII. The original margarine was lard with a packet of yellow food coloring and butter flavoring to be stirred into the lard. The some chemist found they could congeal cottonseed oil and corn oil that would otherwise be waste products by hydrogenating the vegetable lipids. Add flavoring and coloring you have margarine and "American" cheese.

Well. That was disgusting to read.

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

The origin of margarine was when milk production was diverted into making nylon during WWII. The original margarine was lard with a packet of yellow food coloring and butter flavoring to be stirred into the lard. The some chemist found they could congeal cottonseed oil and corn oil that would otherwise be waste products by hydrogenating the vegetable lipids. Add flavoring and coloring you have margarine and "American" cheese.

Well. That was disgusting to read.

Most people really do not want to know how their convenient food is processed, for sure. And you often get startled when you check things out... such as table cream or 1/2 & 1/2 has less fat and calories than the nasty powdered coffee whitener.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

No sugars added. They are natural in the milk and not present in cream. I believe earlier Kaliko mentioned she preferred a high protein low carb diet. As do I. So I just mentioned I stay away from milk while enjoying cream.

http://www.healthyeating.org/Milk-Dairy/Nutrients-in-Milk-Cheese-Yogurt/Nutrients-in-Milk.aspx

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

So I was sitting here wondering (I know it is dangerous). But with the FDA forcing Transfat from our diet because it is bad for us and the move to have soda banned from us because of its sugar content and because salt is bad for our heart, are they becoming the dieticians of our daily diet? I am sure we can all point out other examples of bad foods and ingredients for us to consume.

No more hot dogs at the game because of the salt content
No more soda - salt and sugar
No more cake - salt sugar and transfat

At what point are the people allowed to say enough let us eat what we want and suffer the consequences?

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ORIGINAL: LipstickLeuger

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

So I was sitting here wondering (I know it is dangerous). But with the FDA forcing Transfat from our diet because it is bad for us and the move to have soda banned from us because of its sugar content and because salt is bad for our heart, are they becoming the dieticians of our daily diet? I am sure we can all point out other examples of bad foods and ingredients for us to consume.

No more hot dogs at the game because of the salt content
No more soda - salt and sugar
No more cake - salt sugar and transfat

At what point are the people allowed to say enough let us eat what we want and suffer the consequences?

How dare you wonder/think????? LMAO. It gets me into trouble often as well[:D]

In my opinion, it's too much babysitting and it conditions people to not take responsibility for their lives and their choices. That is IMO one of the biggest issues we face these days, not one wants to pay, after they play.....

Of course not everyone is educated at home on eating healthy. However, there are libraries, the internet, and other multiple sources(your doctor for example)where you could go to get information on eating healthy from. So ignorance is often a choice. It is actually much cheaper to eat unhealthy than healthy. Sure fruits and veggies and whole grain breads don't seem expensive if you have a good income, but white bread on sale for .99 , and Mac and Cheese in a box on sale for 1.00 ,is cheaper and more filling(takes less amount of it to fill you up)than greens and apples where you have to pay 2.00 a pound and 4.00 a pound respectively, and eat more to fill up. You get my drift I am sure.....so, for families on tighter budgets the sugar, fat and processed foods are actually cheaper. Companies make it that way as well to sell their products. So, of course they buy those items. For those who eat meat, leaner cuts of meats are much more than fattier ones. Plus a box of mac and cheese stays good for a long time, fresh fruit and veggies do not and require you to go out and buy them more often, running up your grocery bill and takes more time out of your day.

Even though I can see other points of view, I personally feel the FDAs role should be to only have truth in advertising on the package labels and consumers should be responsible for reading, and choosing, what they putting in their bodies.

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ORIGINAL: LipstickLeuger

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

So I was sitting here wondering (I know it is dangerous). But with the FDA forcing Transfat from our diet because it is bad for us and the move to have soda banned from us because of its sugar content and because salt is bad for our heart, are they becoming the dieticians of our daily diet? I am sure we can all point out other examples of bad foods and ingredients for us to consume.

No more hot dogs at the game because of the salt content
No more soda - salt and sugar
No more cake - salt sugar and transfat

At what point are the people allowed to say enough let us eat what we want and suffer the consequences?

How dare you wonder/think????? LMAO. It gets me into trouble often as well[:D]

In my opinion, it's too much babysitting and it conditions people to not take responsibility for their lives and their choices. That is IMO one of the biggest issues we face these days, not one wants to pay, after they play.....

Of course not everyone is educated at home on eating healthy. However, there are libraries, the internet, and other multiple sources(your doctor for example)where you could go to get information on eating healthy from. So ignorance is often a choice. It is actually much cheaper to eat unhealthy than healthy. Sure fruits and veggies and whole grain breads don't seem expensive if you have a good income, but white bread on sale for .99 , and Mac and Cheese in a box on sale for 1.00 ,is cheaper and more filling(takes less amount of it to fill you up)than greens and apples where you have to pay 2.00 a pound and 4.00 a pound respectively, and eat more to fill up. You get my drift I am sure.....so, for families on tighter budgets the sugar, fat and processed foods are actually cheaper. Companies make it that way as well to sell their products. So, of course they buy those items. For those who eat meat, leaner cuts of meats are much more than fattier ones. Plus a box of mac and cheese stays good for a long time, fresh fruit and veggies do not and require you to go out and buy them more often, running up your grocery bill and takes more time out of your day.

Even though I can see other points of view, I personally feel the FDAs role should be to only have truth in advertising on the package labels and consumers should be responsible for reading, and choosing, what they putting in their bodies.

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Hunter. 1 can pork & Beans, 1 lb ground beef (pour of fat), 1 pkg taco seasoning, 1 can diced green chili's, liberal amount of dried red peppers (like you use on your pizza). Brown beef, add rest of ingredients with 1 taco pkg of water, stir, simmer, serve with copious amounts of saltines. mmmmmmmmmm batchelor food

I forgot the garlic powder. mmmmmm

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Hunter. 1 can pork & Beans, 1 lb ground beef (pour of fat), 1 pkg taco seasoning, 1 can diced green chili's, liberal amount of dried red peppers (like you use on your pizza). Brown beef, add rest of ingredients with 1 taco pkg of water, stir, simmer, serve with copious amounts of saltines. mmmmmmmmmm batchelor food

I forgot the garlic powder. mmmmmm

Okay, I'm going to try that without pouring off the fat. I might add a habanero pepper. We'll see. Okay, here's one. In a Pyrex bowl (I will accept being called a high end bachelor for the Pyrex) two chicken breasts and one can cream of mushroom soup. After the soup is in the bowl, fill it with dried rice and add to bowl. Then fill same said can with water and in to the bowl. Peas or okra can be added for color but are not necessary. Cover ( with the Pyrex lid of course) and put into the oven at whatever temperature. Anywhere from 350 to say 425. Sit down and have a beer. Sooner or later you'll smell something and it's done. A nice chicken breast over rice with a mushroom gravy.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Ooooh, someone's a bit butt sore. All I did was point out that the 1980 Act didn't come from Reagan, and that neither Act came from a Republican-led Congress. So, blaming just Reagan and the GOP for the cuts is intellectual dishonesty at best.
Don't forget that President Obama signed legislation that allowed for pizza to be considered a vegetable because of the sauce back in 2011 (also under a divided Congress).

butt sore, no...just quoting wiki....highlighting text thats relevant...
If you think Im butt sore you are seeing WAY to much into it. I think its fucking hysterical that it even became a "thing"
And you missed that the part about Obama signing the repub plan, was already IN the wiki link I posted.
In fact it was in the very first paragraph.

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The regulations allowed administrators the opportunity to credit items not explicitly listed that met nutritional requirements. While ketchup was not mentioned in the original regulations, pickle relish was used as an example of an item that could count as a vegetable.[3] A similar controversy arose in 2011 when Congress passed a bill prohibiting the USDA from increasing the amount of tomato paste required to constitute a vegetable; the bill allowed pizza with two tablespoons of tomato paste to qualify as a vegetable.

I thought you "over" read?

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA
Okay, I'm going to try that without pouring off the fat. I might add a habanero pepper. We'll see. Okay, here's one. In a Pyrex bowl (I will accept being called a high end bachelor for the Pyrex) two chicken breasts and one can cream of mushroom soup. After the soup is in the bowl, fill it with dried rice and add to bowl. Then fill same said can with water and in to the bowl. Peas or okra can be added for color but are not necessary. Cover ( with the Pyrex lid of course) and put into the oven at whatever temperature. Anywhere from 350 to say 425. Sit down and have a beer. Sooner or later you'll smell something and it's done. A nice chicken breast over rice with a mushroom gravy.

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Hunter. 1 can pork & Beans, 1 lb ground beef (pour of fat), 1 pkg taco seasoning, 1 can diced green chili's, liberal amount of dried red peppers (like you use on your pizza). Brown beef, add rest of ingredients with 1 taco pkg of water, stir, simmer, serve with copious amounts of saltines. mmmmmmmmmm batchelor food

I forgot the garlic powder. mmmmmm

Okay, I'm going to try that without pouring off the fat. I might add a habanero pepper. We'll see. Okay, here's one. In a Pyrex bowl (I will accept being called a high end bachelor for the Pyrex) two chicken breasts and one can cream of mushroom soup. After the soup is in the bowl, fill it with dried rice and add to bowl. Then fill same said can with water and in to the bowl. Peas or okra can be added for color but are not necessary. Cover ( with the Pyrex lid of course) and put into the oven at whatever temperature. Anywhere from 350 to say 425. Sit down and have a beer. Sooner or later you'll smell something and it's done. A nice chicken breast over rice with a mushroom gravy.

My dad was a cowboy. LOL don't eat shroom soup or rice (we call it something else lol) and I never did like beer. Now pass a bottle of vodka wellllllllll lol

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Ooooh, someone's a bit butt sore. All I did was point out that the 1980 Act didn't come from Reagan, and that neither Act came from a Republican-led Congress. So, blaming just Reagan and the GOP for the cuts is intellectual dishonesty at best.
Don't forget that President Obama signed legislation that allowed for pizza to be considered a vegetable because of the sauce back in 2011 (also under a divided Congress).

butt sore, no...just quoting wiki....highlighting text thats relevant...
If you think Im butt sore you are seeing WAY to much into it. I think its fucking hysterical that it even became a "thing"
And you missed that the part about Obama signing the repub plan, was already IN the wiki link I posted.
In fact it was in the very first paragraph.

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The regulations allowed administrators the opportunity to credit items not explicitly listed that met nutritional requirements. While ketchup was not mentioned in the original regulations, pickle relish was used as an example of an item that could count as a vegetable.[3] A similar controversy arose in 2011 when Congress passed a bill prohibiting the USDA from increasing the amount of tomato paste required to constitute a vegetable; the bill allowed pizza with two tablespoons of tomato paste to qualify as a vegetable.

I thought you "over" read?

IIRC, you blamed Reagan, citing the cuts in two acts to do so. One wasn't signed by him, and the other came from a divided Congress. Now, you are blaming the Republicans for the pizza/veggie issue? The GOP held a 55/45 House majority, and a 53/47 Senate minority. There is no way that bill ever got to President Obama without Democrats voting for it. What you failed to understand is that I posted that because it was very, very similar to the Reagan/1981 Omnibus/ketchup thing.

Once again, you show your stripes.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Hunter. 1 can pork & Beans, 1 lb ground beef (pour of fat), 1 pkg taco seasoning, 1 can diced green chili's, liberal amount of dried red peppers (like you use on your pizza). Brown beef, add rest of ingredients with 1 taco pkg of water, stir, simmer, serve with copious amounts of saltines. mmmmmmmmmm batchelor food

I forgot the garlic powder. mmmmmm

Okay, I'm going to try that without pouring off the fat. I might add a habanero pepper. We'll see. Okay, here's one. In a Pyrex bowl (I will accept being called a high end bachelor for the Pyrex) two chicken breasts and one can cream of mushroom soup. After the soup is in the bowl, fill it with dried rice and add to bowl. Then fill same said can with water and in to the bowl. Peas or okra can be added for color but are not necessary. Cover ( with the Pyrex lid of course) and put into the oven at whatever temperature. Anywhere from 350 to say 425. Sit down and have a beer. Sooner or later you'll smell something and it's done. A nice chicken breast over rice with a mushroom gravy.

My dad was a cowboy. LOL don't eat shroom soup or rice (we call it something else lol) and I never did like beer. Now pass a bottle of vodka wellllllllll lol

So use cream of chicken soup and frozen tater tots instead of mushroom soup and rice. Make sure the tater tots are frozen so they take as long to cook as the chicken, and it will probably happen faster than with dry rice. Gees man, use your bachelor powers of reason. Dry rice/frozen tater tots. It's just a regional things. Go with it.