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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 4:54:44 AM   
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Saute an onion, add hamburger and some garlic and mix it with mac'n'cheese. I love that meal. You can add some broccoli as well.



What!!! Add something green and not cooked in butter or bacon grease? Is this one of those chicky things you were referencing while we discussed Buffy?


But the broccoli is covered in CHEESE! Glorious CHEESE!

Could be a chicky thing. I still like it.

I suppose you could add bacon bits.

If you threw in some portobello mushrooms, it might just make a broccoli dish enticing enough for me to be tempted ........


Mushrooms - I will have to try that. Probably with Criminis since they are my favorite.

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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 5:17:05 AM   
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Chipotle, Starbucks, and Panera post calorie counts. It's super valuable information, and posting it is not a "hardship."

I'm not even sure we can consider McDonalds offerings "food."

well yeah, but I have eaten it, and the last time I did, you got a box with a "burger" in it, you didnt get to choose what the items were, which is why i use wendys...if I eat burgers at all.
I can count on one hand the number of burgers Ive had in ten years.
Obviously people not understanding that calories, fat, salt, carbs etc ad nauseam on packages are NOT government controlling what you eat have missed out on the health craze that permeates every aspect of your life....well, im off for a sausage and bacon sammich, anyone want one?




That is interesting. The McD's I go to has no problems making my burger the way I ask them to. Perhaps it is a canadian thing?

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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 5:29:05 AM   
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nah I havent eaten in a canadian mcd's in over ten years, I have a particular burger place I use for burgers(not wendys, an independent)
Maybe Ive just been unlucky or...not specifically asked. its not a biggie, im going to DC in a few weeks, so I will ask.. for no pickles, :)

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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 6:44:16 AM   
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So when I think about this one I tend to think that the gubmint helping us not poison ourselves, even against our inclinations, is probably a Good Thing™.


Welcome to the Dungeon.

What's next? Is it going to be okay for Big Gov to make other decisions in your life, for your protection? Are you okay with schools not allowing parents to pack lunches for the kids and having school lunches as the only option to going hungry?

Force people to be responsible for their choices and actions. Who the hell didn't know that throwing a huge metal dart at someone, or trying to catch on of those things would get you hurt? Um, I knew. We had Jarts. No one ever got hurt from a Jart at my house, and I didn't know anyone who had. Some dipshits fucked around and got hurt, and Jarts disappeared. It was a travesty.




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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 7:17:58 AM   
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just put your trust in capitalism and truth in advertising.


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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 12:37:56 PM   
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just put your trust in capitalism and truth in advertising.


Huge difference between enforcing truth in advertising and not allowing people the freedom to choose their own ways.

How many people still smoke in the US, even though the Surgeon General's warning is on every pack?


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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 12:39:40 PM   
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If you do not have any truth, then how do you have freedom to choose?



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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 2:55:05 PM   
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Some things to make you go Hmmm about your food.

The word "natural" has absolutely no meaning in food labeling. For a while I kept the label off of the shredded cheese used in salad bars to illustrate. "All Natural Processed American Cheese Food" whose ingredients were congealed cottonseed oil, cheese flavoring, and orange coloring.

Telling people to use artificial sweeteners to lose weight, according to some studies, actually can cause type II diabetes. Sensing "sweet" in the mouth triggers insulin production in the pancreas. If you trigger insulin production with nothing to work on the serum glucose tanks. After a while, you don't produce enough insulin to cope with a meal. The jury is still out on this and lab tests are in progress. But, it has been proven to work in lab rats. Human data is still being collected.
http://blog.joslin.org/2014/10/can-artificial-sweeteners-cause-type-2-diabetes/

Why don't the Inuit tribes have heart disease when their diet gives them the highest cholesterol levels ever recorded? It turns out that if they get away from the traditional diet and eat like most Americans; they do. An article in American Laboratory attributed this to having Xanthine Oxidase in the diet as well as cholesterol. Xanthine Oxidase is created when animal fats are cooked at really high temperature.. the searing, charring, point. As confirmed with laboratory tests, you can have high cholesterol with few effects but if you eat your steak seared, your bacon crisp, or your burger well done, xanthine oxidase acts like paint stripper on the blood vessel walls then cholesterol plates out like boiler scale on the damaged lining.
A theory with some experimental back up to it. Oh, yes, you can make xanthine oxidase from milk if the milk fat is broken down.. like when homogenized. Pass the sushi and milk fresh from the cow please.

Another reason it is hard to quit smoking is that tobacco plants concentrate lithium salts. Each puff is a dose of a mood leveler. Some of the first manufacture of lithium compounds for pharmaceutical use was from the usually discarded tobacco stems. (The things you find out getting drunk with a chemist from Winston-Salem. Like Marlboro lights are flavored with celery seed to restore tobacco flavor after taking out some of the tar and nicotine.)

Just tossing out some things to see if it gets people thinking out of the box.


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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 6:33:25 PM   
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I'm going to go with "LL" for short.
I'm sure that MercTech will have gastly things to say about velveeta. I'm going to just close my eyes to that. But, in the vein of bachelore meals. Mix up a pot of the family size box of velveeta Mac and it's good alone. Throw in a can of chile and you have chile Mac. Or throw in a can of stewed tomatoes and you have macamatoes which is surprisingly good. Of course a can of diced green chilles in any of those recipes is good.


One can of tuna, drained, in a box of Kraft Mac 'n' Cheese is about right. Of course, you could go with canned chicken, or diced ham, too. My boys would rather have Kraft than homemade, too. I'll never understand it. I have whipped up a 4 cheese (cream cheese, extra sharp cheddar, mild cheddar, and muenster) masterpiece, only to have them complain about it not tasting like Kraft. They just roll their eyes when I agree and point out it actually tastes like cheese, though.




Yea, I've done the tuna. It works. Generally there comes a time in every bachelors life where searching the pantry and making something up comes into play. I do usually add real cheese to my Mac. Oh, and I have a friend who uses your craft Mac and cheese differently. He takes the cheese powder and adds it to hamburger. He tosses the macaroni. So the cheese gets cooked into the hamburger.

Ok, I admit it, I'm horribly healthy, a runner, and 99% vegetarian(be nice now....)I still enjoy fish occasionally. So that aside, I usually put either Avocado or broccoli in my mac and cheese. Tomatoes sound really tasty and I bet that Kale would go into it fine as well, or maybe Spinach, as long as you don't overcook it. That is what ruins it BTW.

I was forced to live on that stuff when I was getting divorce years ago because it was cheap. I learned very quickly how to make a good meal and make it fairly healthy. Also, college will teach you that as well! LOL

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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 6:34:32 PM   
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Saute an onion, add hamburger and some garlic and mix it with mac'n'cheese. I love that meal. You can add some broccoli as well.



What!!! Add something green and not cooked in butter or bacon grease? Is this one of those chicky things you were referencing while we discussed Buffy?


But the broccoli is covered in CHEESE! Glorious CHEESE!

Could be a chicky thing. I still like it.

I suppose you could add bacon bits.


I think you had them at 'bacon'

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RE: Food Police - 5/27/2015 6:45:56 PM   
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Saute an onion, add hamburger and some garlic and mix it with mac'n'cheese. I love that meal. You can add some broccoli as well.

What!!! Add something green and not cooked in butter or bacon grease? Is this one of those chicky things you were referencing while we discussed Buffy?

But the broccoli is covered in CHEESE! Glorious CHEESE!
Could be a chicky thing. I still like it.
I suppose you could add bacon bits.

I think you had them at 'bacon'


I was almost hooked at "CHEESE! Glorious CHEESE!" and bacon set the hook further.


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RE: Food Police - 5/28/2015 10:28:18 AM   
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Just tossing out some things to see if it gets people thinking out of the box.


Imo if you want to eat healthy you need to eat "clean" and that means not eating any processed and refined food.. People think just cuz they dont eat at McD's every day or have potato chips etc that they are eating healthy.. not true at all.. any processed food (including frozen dinners, pizza, breads, pasta, mass produced premade meals, eating out, etc) produces inflammation in the body.. I experienced that myself several years ago.. I started getting a back ache that went all the way up my back to my neck.. it was so painful that i could not even sit down for 2 minutes, i couldnt sleep, the least pain was standing.. i went to an acupuncturist and he told me my problem was my stomach.. i googled and sure enough he was right, i found out eating processed food caused inflammation in my stomach which created the back pain in me.. i changed my diet to not eating any processed food at all and in 2 weeks i was pain free again.. thats all it took.. But most people would go to their doctor and he would give them some prescription and they would just be masking the problem (allowing it to get worse) instead of solving it..

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RE: Food Police - 5/28/2015 5:04:51 PM   
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Just tossing out some things to see if it gets people thinking out of the box.


Imo if you want to eat healthy you need to eat "clean" and that means not eating any processed and refined food.. People think just cuz they dont eat at McD's every day or have potato chips etc that they are eating healthy.. not true at all.. any processed food (including frozen dinners, pizza, breads, pasta, mass produced premade meals, eating out, etc) produces inflammation in the body.. I experienced that myself several years ago.. I started getting a back ache that went all the way up my back to my neck.. it was so painful that i could not even sit down for 2 minutes, i couldnt sleep, the least pain was standing.. i went to an acupuncturist and he told me my problem was my stomach.. i googled and sure enough he was right, i found out eating processed food caused inflammation in my stomach which created the back pain in me.. i changed my diet to not eating any processed food at all and in 2 weeks i was pain free again.. thats all it took.. But most people would go to their doctor and he would give them some prescription and they would just be masking the problem (allowing it to get worse) instead of solving it..


I couldn't do it. I love cheese. I also like my coffee, dark chocolate, and wine - which all have health benefits.

The raw food diet is just not for me.

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RE: Food Police - 5/28/2015 5:23:43 PM   
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Maybe somebody should follow the money.

A group called Citizens for Health recently began a campaign to encourage consumers to reduce high-fructose corn syrup in their diets, filing a petition with the Food and Drug Administration demanding stricter labeling on food items containing the sweetener.

Yet the petition did not disclose that the organization, which bills itself as the “voice of the natural-health consumer,” received the bulk of its money at the time from sugar companies, which view corn syrup as a threat to their profits. Since 2011, the organization has received at least $500,000 from the industry.

Sugar companies’ investments in this nonprofit group, detailed in newly released internal documents, are part of a growing strategy used by corporate interests seeking to influence Washington policymaking.

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RE: Food Police - 5/28/2015 5:35:56 PM   
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Maybe somebody should follow the money.
A group called Citizens for Health recently began a campaign to encourage consumers to reduce high-fructose corn syrup in their diets, filing a petition with the Food and Drug Administration demanding stricter labeling on food items containing the sweetener.
Yet the petition did not disclose that the organization, which bills itself as the “voice of the natural-health consumer,” received the bulk of its money at the time from sugar companies, which view corn syrup as a threat to their profits. Since 2011, the organization has received at least $500,000 from the industry.
Sugar companies’ investments in this nonprofit group, detailed in newly released internal documents, are part of a growing strategy used by corporate interests seeking to influence Washington policymaking.


Big Sugar has been suckling at the government's teat for a long time. Read about it here, or here.


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RE: Food Police - 5/28/2015 5:49:18 PM   
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Maybe somebody should follow the money.
A group called Citizens for Health recently began a campaign to encourage consumers to reduce high-fructose corn syrup in their diets, filing a petition with the Food and Drug Administration demanding stricter labeling on food items containing the sweetener.
Yet the petition did not disclose that the organization, which bills itself as the “voice of the natural-health consumer,” received the bulk of its money at the time from sugar companies, which view corn syrup as a threat to their profits. Since 2011, the organization has received at least $500,000 from the industry.
Sugar companies’ investments in this nonprofit group, detailed in newly released internal documents, are part of a growing strategy used by corporate interests seeking to influence Washington policymaking.


Big Sugar has been suckling at the government's teat for a long time. Read about it here, or here.



Aren't there laws about not importing it as well?

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RE: Food Police - 5/28/2015 5:56:57 PM   
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Maybe somebody should follow the money.
A group called Citizens for Health recently began a campaign to encourage consumers to reduce high-fructose corn syrup in their diets, filing a petition with the Food and Drug Administration demanding stricter labeling on food items containing the sweetener.
Yet the petition did not disclose that the organization, which bills itself as the “voice of the natural-health consumer,” received the bulk of its money at the time from sugar companies, which view corn syrup as a threat to their profits. Since 2011, the organization has received at least $500,000 from the industry.
Sugar companies’ investments in this nonprofit group, detailed in newly released internal documents, are part of a growing strategy used by corporate interests seeking to influence Washington policymaking.

Big Sugar has been suckling at the government's teat for a long time. Read about it here, or here.

Aren't there laws about not importing it as well?


Tariffs and amount limits! You bet!


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RE: Food Police - 5/29/2015 8:57:54 AM   
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Just tossing out some things to see if it gets people thinking out of the box.


Imo if you want to eat healthy you need to eat "clean" and that means not eating any processed and refined food.. People think just cuz they dont eat at McD's every day or have potato chips etc that they are eating healthy.. not true at all.. any processed food (including frozen dinners, pizza, breads, pasta, mass produced premade meals, eating out, etc) produces inflammation in the body.. I experienced that myself several years ago.. I started getting a back ache that went all the way up my back to my neck.. it was so painful that i could not even sit down for 2 minutes, i couldnt sleep, the least pain was standing.. i went to an acupuncturist and he told me my problem was my stomach.. i googled and sure enough he was right, i found out eating processed food caused inflammation in my stomach which created the back pain in me.. i changed my diet to not eating any processed food at all and in 2 weeks i was pain free again.. thats all it took.. But most people would go to their doctor and he would give them some prescription and they would just be masking the problem (allowing it to get worse) instead of solving it..


I couldn't do it. I love cheese. I also like my coffee, dark chocolate, and wine - which all have health benefits.

The raw food diet is just not for me.

ummm... I didnt say raw food diet.. I said eating clean.. there is a mag called Clean Eating with recipes and various books on it as well, not to mention google "eating clean".. it means getting rid of processed and refined food & ingredients you cant pronounce..

http://www.cleaneatingmag.com/food-health/food-and-health-news/what-is-clean-eating/

Its not really all that radical a concept.. just look at the recipes! http://www.cleaneatingmag.com/recipes/

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RE: Food Police - 5/29/2015 11:07:56 AM   
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So I was sitting here wondering (I know it is dangerous). But with the FDA forcing Transfat from our diet because it is bad for us and the move to have soda banned from us because of its sugar content and because salt is bad for our heart, are they becoming the dieticians of our daily diet? I am sure we can all point out other examples of bad foods and ingredients for us to consume.

No more hot dogs at the game because of the salt content
No more soda - salt and sugar
No more cake - salt sugar and transfat

At what point are the people allowed to say enough let us eat what we want and suffer the consequences?



Unfortunately, this is a residual of Obummercare (and I said it would happen, years ago).

You see, now that the federal government is involved in insuring us, they have a "right" to decide what's healthy for us because, ultimately, it's better for thei ... err ... I mean ... our bottom line.

Once again, they're "protecting us from ourselves".

Don't you feel better?



Michael


The govt. (FDA et al) has been deciding that since long before the ACA. Liqour and tobacco the two great capitalist profit centers, are doing just fine adding trillion$ to anyone's health care bill.

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RE: Food Police - 5/29/2015 11:16:24 AM   
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go on welfare Ken apply for SNAP, then tell me about nanny stateism deciding what you cant eat.


A cradle to grave overbearing government program, instituted by leftists, is treating people like children, not allowing them to spend tax dollars on potato chips, beer and cigarettes, and you sound like its a bad thing.

Where do I start?

It is one thing to tell people what they can eat when you are paying for it, quite another when they are.

SO you think anyone that gets "government money" should have their lives micromanaged in this way?
Government employees, the military, everyone who takes a penny from the government
imagine the cost of having that ability....a tad more times the cost of inspecting the poor

But Hunter is always railing against those multi-billion $ oil subsidies and billion$ in agric. hand outs to rich farmers cradle to grave and since the 30's. Let's be fair now.

We just don't call these 'The Affordable Oil Care act' or the "Affordable Agric, Care act" or how about the old family favorite...the banking cradle to grave care like "The Affordable Banking Care Act ?"

You gotta love the words in these names...or the lack of them.

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