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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 6/30/2015 6:36:17 AM   
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I can find no linkage for that particular claim.....anyone have a clue where to find more info?

They were all Baptist churches in Alabama.

http://www.bpnews.net/22609/4-more-baptist-churches-in-alabama-catch-fire-2-destroyed-arson-again-suspected

sorry but thats not seven churches in one night.
Which was his claim.


Yes, he got the number in one night wrong. But he got the fact that there were blackblack churches AND white churches, all of one denomination, right.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 6/30/2015 7:32:46 AM   
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You ass holes had Trevon Martin guilty long before the verdict.......

Due process my ass......

First of all, if you go back through the Martin/Zimmerman threads you'll find I didn't post anything in them because I was waiting for the process to determine guilt.

Second, your practice of spinning topics simply to act like a fucking douche canoe is old and boring. Get a life.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 6/30/2015 5:58:12 PM   
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These things couldn't happen, the people upset about the fires, without them even being investigated have assured us that people like that wouldn't use other forms of attacks if they were deprived of guns, and have assured me that this isn't the way racists prefer to attack.


Don't turn this into an anti-anti-gun thread. It's just as bad as when they see the word gun, and try to turn it into a gun thread.


ok briefly overwhelmed with the urge toward sarcasm. And had just been give that line in another thread.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 6/30/2015 6:03:54 PM   
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I can find no linkage for that particular claim.....anyone have a clue where to find more info?

They were all Baptist churches in Alabama.

http://www.bpnews.net/22609/4-more-baptist-churches-in-alabama-catch-fire-2-destroyed-arson-again-suspected

sorry but thats not seven churches in one night.
Which was his claim.


Yes, he got the number in one night wrong. But he got the fact that there were blackblack churches AND white churches, all of one denomination, right.

Oh no, from about a decade ago I got the number wrong. Since they burned churches in several towns it could have stretched out to more than one night. Could anyone tell me what bearing this has on the fact that sometimes churches are burned for reasons other than white racism, like they hate Christians. Sounds like an attempt to distract from the situation.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 6/30/2015 6:05:22 PM   
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You ass holes had Trevon Martin guilty long before the verdict.......

Due process my ass......

First of all, if you go back through the Martin/Zimmerman threads you'll find I didn't post anything in them because I was waiting for the process to determine guilt.

Second, your practice of spinning topics simply to act like a fucking douche canoe is old and boring. Get a life.

I remember his arguments from that time, makes much of what he says today seem reasonable and open minded.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 6/30/2015 11:35:32 PM   
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Another Prominent Black Church Burns In The South Amid FBI Investigation


http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/another-black-church-burned-tuesday-evening-in-south-carolin?bftwnews&utm_term=4ldqpgc#.uf5jO3Aoq

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 3:28:58 AM   
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For those who didn't notice, the already had a trial in the Zimmerman case. Verdict, innocent on all counts. Maybe it is time to stop rehashing a case which is long over.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 6:18:23 AM   
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I can find no linkage for that particular claim.....anyone have a clue where to find more info?

They were all Baptist churches in Alabama.

http://www.bpnews.net/22609/4-more-baptist-churches-in-alabama-catch-fire-2-destroyed-arson-again-suspected

sorry but thats not seven churches in one night.
Which was his claim.


Yes, he got the number in one night wrong. But he got the fact that there were blackblack churches AND white churches, all of one denomination, right.



well he could hardly get that part wrong could he. but yes it shows his propensity for not being factual or offering fact to back his claims...



As an added link, not from my tired ol memory gettin things wrong
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150630/PC16/150639930/fire-crews-responding-to-blaze-at-african-american-church-in-greeleyville

UPDATE: Investigators are on scene this morning, and a press conference is set for 10 a.m. The Associated Press is reporting that a federal source says preliminary indications show the fire was not arson.

Flames engulfed a historic African-American church Tuesday night that was already destroyed once by a blaze ignited by the Ku Klux Klan in 1995.

Mount Zion AME Church in Greeleyville is the seventh black church to burn across the South in the wake of the killing of nine worshipers at Charleston’s Emanuel AME Church.

State Law Enforcement Division Chief Mark Keel said several agents responded to the fire and that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and other federal agencies were notified. The cause was not immediately known Tuesday night.

Cezar McKnight, D-Kingstree, watched as heavy smoke billowed from the church and bright orange flames shot into the air. The church is located at 564 MacKey Road.

“It’s gone,” he said. “They don’t know the cause yet, but I am hoping for the best.

“South Carolina has been through a lot the last two weeks and we’ve made the best of a terrible situation. I would hate for this to be something somebody did on purpose to try to poison the love and fellowship.”

Keel said that a fire investigation likely couldn’t begin until the blaze was extinguished, which was not the case at 10 p.m. The fire was out by midnight, according to Williamsburg County Sheriff’s Office investigator Alex Edwards. He late Tuesday said that it began about 8:30 p.m. and it was unknown if foul play was suspected.

A storm blew through the area just before the fire, Keel said, speculating that lightning could have ignited it, but adding that he did not know for sure. He said recent events, however, were cause for concern.

“Certainly, I think we all are concerned about those things,” he said.

Pete Mohlin, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in North Charleston said there was a lot of lightning in the Greeleyville area between 6:30 and 7 p.m. but that there was no way to tell if it started the church fire.

Mount Zion AME is one of two churches that was torched in June 1995 by two KKK members. The other was Macedonia Baptist Church in Bloomville.

The response to a string of church fires 20 years ago was similar to the response to the Emanuel shootings in Charleston. Then-President Bill Clinton even visited Mount Zion AME as it was being rebuilt and spoke at the dedication. His remarks then were hauntingly familiar.

“The men and women of Mount Zion have shown us the meaning of these words by refusing to be defeated and by building up this new church. Others have come together with you,” Clinton said on June 12, 1996. “The pastor told me he got contributions from all over the world to help to rebuild this church. In just a few days we’ll have a joyful noise coming out of this church. ... I want to ask every citizen, as we stand on this hallowed ground together, to help to rebuild our churches, to restore hope, to show the forces of hatred they cannot win.”





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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 4:02:33 PM   
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http://www.bpnews.net/22609/4-more-baptist-churches-in-alabama-catch-fire-2-destroyed-arson-again-suspected


Yes, he got the number in one night wrong. But he got the fact that there were blackblack churches AND white churches, all of one denomination, right.



Stupidity and irelevance at its finest.

I know it wasnt your link, but since you quoted it, I thought I may as well leave it for you to re-read.

The story is NINE YEARS OLD, why do you, or indeed Bama, feel it has fuck all to do with the current spate of fires ? A defelection tactics go its fucking laughable, but fits your style.





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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 4:04:38 PM   
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You ass holes had Trevon Martin guilty long before the verdict.......

Due process my ass......

First of all, if you go back through the Martin/Zimmerman threads you'll find I didn't post anything in them because I was waiting for the process to determine guilt.

Second, your practice of spinning topics simply to act like a fucking douche canoe is old and boring. Get a life.

I remember his arguments from that time, makes much of what he says today seem reasonable and open minded.



Obviously Zimmy has been shown to be an upright citizen in the years since Trayvons murder.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 4:17:41 PM   
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Obviously Zimmy has been shown to be an upright citizen in the years since Trayvons murder.


Me neither, truth be told. But we don't have to be to suit others or prove we did not kill someone. I hope.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 4:21:46 PM   
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String of apparent arson fires plague black churches in Carolinas, Georgia and Tennessee 



So quick to jump on that bandwagon! Consider this, whenever churches are burnt it is usually to cover property theft or volunteer firefighters getting bored. The recent drama provides a cover for this opportunistic theft ring.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 4:23:37 PM   
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I have said previously he was found not guilty, although my own opinion still differs......... Lets just say Scotland has a verdict of not proven. I am unsure a jury would find Zimmy not guilty now, considering his history in recent years.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 4:31:19 PM   
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So quick to jump on that bandwagon! Consider this, whenever churches are burnt it is usually to cover property theft or volunteer firefighters getting bored. The recent drama provides a cover for this opportunistic theft ring.


Fruitcakery at its finest!

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 4:37:43 PM   
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Obviously Zimmy has been shown to be an upright citizen in the years since Trayvons murder.


Me neither, truth be told. But we don't have to be to suit others or prove we did not kill someone. I hope.

Most recently because some nut ran him off the road and tried to shoot him.
The gangsters killed on St Valentine's day could have legitimately claimed self defense. Let it go, the lynch mob was wrong, live with it.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 4:37:52 PM   
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http://www.bpnews.net/22609/4-more-baptist-churches-in-alabama-catch-fire-2-destroyed-arson-again-suspected


Yes, he got the number in one night wrong. But he got the fact that there were blackblack churches AND white churches, all of one denomination, right.



Stupidity and irelevance at its finest.

I know it wasnt your link, but since you quoted it, I thought I may as well leave it for you to re-read.

The story is NINE YEARS OLD, why do you, or indeed Bama, feel it has fuck all to do with the current spate of fires ? A defelection tactics go its fucking laughable, but fits your style.







I think it was because we were discussing why all church fires should be considered suspicious.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 4:43:29 PM   
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String of apparent arson fires plague black churches in Carolinas, Georgia and Tennessee 



So quick to jump on that bandwagon! Consider this, whenever churches are burnt it is usually to cover property theft or volunteer firefighters getting bored. The recent drama provides a cover for this opportunistic theft ring.

Evidence is coming in, linked in the hoax thread, indicates that those they have come to a conclusion on weren't racist attacks. Investigations continue on all but two so we can't say on them

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 6:01:59 PM   
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i dont have a link but it seems mother nature had a lightning fit.
cant wait to see what pat robertson has to say about that


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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 6:15:53 PM   
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http://www.bpnews.net/22609/4-more-baptist-churches-in-alabama-catch-fire-2-destroyed-arson-again-suspected


Yes, he got the number in one night wrong. But he got the fact that there were blackblack churches AND white churches, all of one denomination, right.



Stupidity and irelevance at its finest.

I know it wasnt your link, but since you quoted it, I thought I may as well leave it for you to re-read.

The story is NINE YEARS OLD, why do you, or indeed Bama, feel it has fuck all to do with the current spate of fires ? A defelection tactics go its fucking laughable, but fits your style.

And the man who became King of Deflection by calling names and making personal attacks weighs in.

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RE: String of black church arsons.....The white supremi... - 7/1/2015 7:18:39 PM   
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http://www.bpnews.net/22609/4-more-baptist-churches-in-alabama-catch-fire-2-destroyed-arson-again-suspected


Yes, he got the number in one night wrong. But he got the fact that there were blackblack churches AND white churches, all of one denomination, right.



Stupidity and irelevance at its finest.

I know it wasnt your link, but since you quoted it, I thought I may as well leave it for you to re-read.

The story is NINE YEARS OLD, why do you, or indeed Bama, feel it has fuck all to do with the current spate of fires ? A defelection tactics go its fucking laughable, but fits your style.

And the man who became King of Deflection by calling names and making personal attacks weighs in.


It is a lesson on jumping to conclusions.

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