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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/2/2015 10:18:08 PM   
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Very well, then according to the 14th Amendment, my privileges are safeguarded and these include food, shelter, internet access and marrying my first cousin since marriage is a right that cannot be restricted. Also, the Constitution does not specify how many marriages are a right so I can now marry multiple women should I be so foolish as to do so and my right to do so is protected.


Again, not true. States are constitutionally free to define marriage (US courts) as a contract between two people only.

Furthermore, any govt. provision of food, clothing and shelter is subject to the various state and federal laws and are in no way guaranteed constitutional law but the 14th amend. requires their equal protection.



To be fair to Arturas. States being "Constitutionally Free" to define something is NOT the same thing as that something being defined in the Constitution.

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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 8:11:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


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ORIGINAL: Arturas

Very well, then according to the 14th Amendment, my privileges are safeguarded and these include food, shelter, internet access and marrying my first cousin since marriage is a right that cannot be restricted. Also, the Constitution does not specify how many marriages are a right so I can now marry multiple women should I be so foolish as to do so and my right to do so is protected.


Again, not true. States are constitutionally free to define marriage (US courts) as a contract between two people only.

Furthermore, any govt. provision of food, clothing and shelter is subject to the various state and federal laws and are in no way guaranteed constitutional law but the 14th amend. requires their equal protection.



To be fair to Arturas. States being "Constitutionally Free" to define something is NOT the same thing as that something being defined in the Constitution.


First off marriage is a private affair, though without some kind of event recording would be a bit cumbersome for everyone to deal with when it comes to wills etc.

The gubmint claims an interest in your marriage for several reasons. the usual money and power.

As far as incestual marriage is concerned the only reason that is tabu is because its was and still is used by the aristocracy to keep the wealth in the family, and like the construction of all subordinate colonies laws are passed to prevent anyone from growing larger than big cheeze. Like dismantle the crown and rothschild dynasty, both very functional today and both ill-gotten wealth. Especially the rothschilds.

The states administrative offices create definitions using new words then like terrorists sneak in through the back door and use their new words to subordinate the words used in the constitution.

Here is an example: You have the 'inherent' right 'travel'. It was reserved and grandfathered in, in the articles of confederation.

Now the states decide they want a traffic system. this is good right?

So they start out taxing corporations who use truck 'drivers' to operate in 'commerce' and do 'business' on the hiway system.

The people say oh yah thats fair so no one fights it.

Then they start taxing private citizens who use the hiways to buy food to survive at some point wrongfully shoving them under the same umbrella.

The average joe citizen not knowing his rights and damn sure no understanding of how to defend them against professional attorneys looks at his empty pockets and the law slips by, grows roots, and is cast in concrete.

Later the gubmint slips the word 'travel' a private inherent right reserved by the people UNDER driving, and UNDER commerce and your right to the 'free' use of the common-way by travel is abolished. They not only tax the gas but require those who would travel for private reasons to buy expensive licenses for their car under the pretense that everyone is a 'driver' operating in commerce.

So STFU and PAY the extortionists and if you dont they will fuck you in the courts with more syntax terrorism when they mysteriously cannot seem to figure out how travelling is any different than driving or how the private man for his own survival is not operating in commerce, or for that matter the intent of the right to travel in the first place.


The only rights you have are those that the gubmint can regulate. Absolutely NO different than the King of England prior to the revolution. Exactly like the King they simply change the meaningof words of create new ones to 'overlay' over the old ones. People are none the wiser, the fraud slips right by most of them.

All else is not recognized despite the fact you reserved them. speech (as long as it does not offend, religion as long as its only praying, travel, as long as its driving, arms are now redefined as guns or 'fire'-arms and so forth to give it a narrowly different twist to pull it out of the state of original agreement and into their newly created jurisdiction to usurp your rights. Its a great scam, works perfectly every time.

The American Dream: You have no rights. ~George Carlin

Its a great dream, that freedom gig.





oh and I suppose I may as well prove it right away LOL


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“Queen Elizabeth II the largest landowner on Earth.”

Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of the United Kingdom and of 31 other states and territories, is the legal owner of about 6,600 million acres of land, one sixth of the earth’s non ocean surface.

She is the only person on earth who owns whole countries, and who owns countries that are not her own domestic territory. This land ownership is separate from her role as head of state and is different from other monarchies where no such claim is made – Norway, Belgium, Denmark etc.

The value of her land holding. £17,600,000,000,000 (approx).

This makes her the richest individual on earth. However, there is no way easily to value her real estate. There is no current market in the land of entire countries. At a rough estimate of $5,000 an acre, and based on the sale of Alaska to the USA by the Tsar, and of Louisiana to the USA by France, the Queen’s land holding is worth a notional $33,000,000,000,000 (Thirty three trillion dollars or about £17,600,000,000,000). Her holding is based on the laws of the countries she owns and her land title is valid in all the countries she owns. Her main holdings are Canada, the 2nd largest country on earth, with 2,467 million acres, Australia, the 7th largest country on earth with 1,900 million acres, the Papua New Guinea with114 million acres, New Zealand with 66 million acres and the UK with 60 million acres.

She is the world’s largest landowner by a significant margin. The next largest landowner is the Russian state, with an overall ownership of 4,219 million acres, and a direct ownership comparable with the Queen’s land holding of 2,447 million acres. The 3rd largest landowner is the Chinese state, which claims all of Chinese land, about 2,365 million acres. The 4th largest landowner on earth is the Federal Government of the United States, which owns about one third of the land of the USA, 760 million acres. The fifth largest landowner on earth is the King of Saudi Arabia with 553 million acres
Largest five personal landowners on Earh


Queen Elizabeth II 6,600 million acres
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 553 million acres
King Bhumibol of Thailand 126 million acres
King Mohammed IV of Morocco 113 million acres
Sultan Quaboos of Oman 76 million acres



and who is entitltes to collect taxes on that land with an "in fee" property titling system? Same for any common law country colonized by England or rampaged by the US, including the southern states.

The land titles in the US split and they operate like a trust. You get to use it but the gubmint is the trustee who can take a percentage of its value in the form of taxation, because like england the land titles are 'in fee'. Very simple in the final analysis, hence while not fitting the definition of 'direct' ownership as the above is concerned the federal government, the united states, a corporation/association, created under the 13 original colonies have whats called a 'controlling interest' and right of execution through their sub-corporate agent states.

the US being a constitutional republic, the king gig done through the national debt system rather than straight up. They had to devise a work around.

SSDD....






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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 8:38:30 AM   
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The articles of confederation were overthrown by the Constitution. Finish, all in, all done. No grandfather to rock in his rocker.

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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 8:54:58 AM   
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The articles of confederation were overthrown by the Constitution. Finish, all in, all done. No grandfather to rock in his rocker.


The reason I rarely argue with you is because you havent posted responses that would lead me to believe your understanding and legal background is broad enough or that you have read enough supreme court cases to realize the constitution is simply another overlay and that virtually everything in the AOC was expressly carried forward in both the federal and state constitutions is recognised by the supreme court as well as the british bill of rights and the magna charta as stare decis.

Granted, on a forum, I can only give snapshot glimpses without adding a new section to the national archives to hold all the font ink required to quote every freaking resource.

'overthrown', thats a good one.




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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 8:56:25 AM   
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The reason I point out so many of your fallacies is because you have demonstrated no understanding of law.

Stare decisis <<<<<<<<<<<<*NB. is the court entity consistent with its own rulings. Precedent, is from higher courts to lower courts. So, The supreme court rules something it sets precedent for all lower courts.

http://blogs.loc.gov/law/2011/09/the-articles-of-confederation-the-first-constitution-of-the-united-states/

and when you get done with that, grab the Blacks and check out obiter dicta, or in dicta.

En Passant is not just for chess players anymore, but has no effect on law.


Thus endeth your lesson in pre-pre-law.

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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 9:06:32 AM   
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The reason I point out so many of your fallacies is because you have demonstrated no understanding of law.



The difference between your posts and mine are that 99.9% of the time I can prove mine beyond a shadow of even the most 'un'reasonable doubt.





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Patrick Henry, June 4, 1788

Henry's statesmanship did not end with the Revolution and the achievement of independence.

sir, give me leave to demand, What right had they to say, We, the people?

Who authorized them to speak the language of, We, the people, instead of, We, the states? States are the characteristics and the soul of a confederation.

But, sir, on this great occasion, I would demand the cause of their conduct.

The people gave them no power to use their name. That they exceeded their power is perfectly clear.

The federal Convention ought to have amended the old system; for this purpose they were solely delegated; the object of their mission extended to no other consideration.


Whats the first clue?



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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 9:09:29 AM   
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Uh, Patrick Henry had an opinion, but did not give law to this land. He was in the minority. Sort of like a rabid rightwinger is.

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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 9:13:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

The reason I point out so many of your fallacies is because you have demonstrated no understanding of law.

Stare decisis <<<<<<<<<<<<*NB. is the court entity consistent with its own rulings. Precedent, is from higher courts to lower courts. So, The supreme court rules something it sets precedent for all lower courts.

http://blogs.loc.gov/law/2011/09/the-articles-of-confederation-the-first-constitution-of-the-united-states/

and when you get done with that, grab the Blacks and check out obiter dicta, or in dicta.

En Passant is not just for chess players anymore, but has no effect on law.


Thus endeth your lesson in pre-pre-law.


Stare decisis <<<<<<<<<<<<*NB. is the court entity consistent with its own rulings. Precedent, is from higher courts to lower courts. So, The supreme court rules something it sets precedent for all lower courts.

obiter dicta, or in dicta

None of which applies to or countermands my comments. In other words strawman arrgument. That and you are mostly wrong. Precedence relies upon stare decis, and the court in this country was intended to be 12 juror's of the people.

to prove the point:
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Stare decisis is a doctrine or policy of following rules or principles laid down in previous judicial decisions. It is the principal that maintains that previous decisions are to be followed by the courts. This policy dictates that the court must abide or adhere to decided cases.

In common law legal systems, a precedent or authority is a legal case establishing a principle or rule that a court or other judicial body adopts when deciding later cases with similar issues or facts based upon earlier trial results.




yes and Christine does not have her facts in order, talks about the northwest ordinance as if it were legitimate despite it was passed by congress while operating under the authority of the AOC where they had no authority to pass such a document in the first place. Likewise with jefferson who had no authority for the lousiana purchase.

Once again you post grandiose government versions of history which tend to have a slight problem of cherry picking history to obtain its own ends.




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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 9:15:34 AM   
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Uh, Patrick Henry had an opinion, but did not give law to this land. He was in the minority. Sort of like a rabid rightwinger is.


congress had an opinion. That opinion was to defy the laws made and agreed upon between the government and the people.

10 people singing the same tune louder than a single voice does validate tryanny.

Patrick Henry called them out on their deceit, "da-mob-cracy" (with the most guns) rules




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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 9:16:48 AM   
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Nope, there are at least 10 rabid rightwingers singing that Obama is going to take your firecrackers away, it means nothing.

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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 9:44:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

The reason I point out so many of your fallacies is because you have demonstrated no understanding of law.

Stare decisis <<<<<<<<<<<<*NB. is the court entity consistent with its own rulings. Precedent, is from higher courts to lower courts. So, The supreme court rules something it sets precedent for all lower courts.

http://blogs.loc.gov/law/2011/09/the-articles-of-confederation-the-first-constitution-of-the-united-states/

and when you get done with that, grab the Blacks and check out obiter dicta, or in dicta.

En Passant is not just for chess players anymore, but has no effect on law.


Thus endeth your lesson in pre-pre-law.


Stare decisis <<<<<<<<<<<<*NB. is the court entity consistent with its own rulings. Precedent, is from higher courts to lower courts. So, The supreme court rules something it sets precedent for all lower courts.

obiter dicta, or in dicta

None of which applies to or countermands my comments. In other words strawman arrgument.

yes and Christine does not have her facts in order, talks about the northwest ordinance as if it were legitimate despite it was passed by congress while operating under the authority of the AOC where they had no authority to pass such a document in the first place. Likewise with Jefferson who had no authority for the louisiana purchase.

Once again you post grandiose government versions of history which tend to have a slight problem of cherry picking history to obtain its own ends.





I am not cherry picking, I am commenting with actual facts that your mewlings are junk. No supreme court has held that AOC is anything nor that the Magna Carta is law here. The SCOTUS in the link I have given you contends that IN DICTA, many of the original intents of the AOC were carried further. I will agree that Jefferson had no authority to legitimize the Louisiana purchase under our constitution, but time and circumstance and here we are. He fretted about it rather publically.
Just as we see still today, the checkbook has the effect of law.



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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 9:46:55 AM   
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sorry about the late edit:



to prove the point:
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Stare decisis is a doctrine or policy of following rules or principles laid down in previous judicial decisions. It is the principal that maintains that previous decisions are to be followed by the courts. This policy dictates that the court must abide or adhere to decided cases.

In common law legal systems, a precedent or authority is a legal case establishing a principle or rule that a court or other judicial body adopts when deciding later cases with similar issues or facts based upon earlier trial results.


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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 9:55:26 AM   
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I am not cherry picking, I am commenting with actual facts that your mewlings are junk. No supreme court has held that AOC is anything nor that the Magna Carta is law here. The SCOTUS in the link I have given you contends that IN DICTA, many of the original intents of the AOC were carried further. I will agree that Jefferson had no authority to legitimize the Louisiana purchase under our constitution, but time and circumstance and here we are. As we see still today, the checkbook has the effect of law.



The bolded is 'techincally' correct, and inm practice wrong since they DO USE STARE DECIS back to the origin [England] and bring THAT LAW, or the resulting decisions of THAT LAW forward into LAW TODAY.

This is why I rare comment on what you post, they always wind up running the strawmen road of arguments and are a waste of time.

Time and circumstance have nothing to do with it, the gubmint violating and breaching the contract and covenants made with the people.

I do agree however with yoru checkbook statement.


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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 10:06:58 AM   
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Absolutely not Stare Decisis. We sort of made the point even with the AOC that we were not bound by English law. The fact that there are only a limited number of ways to form a woman for torture, they are not infinite. You might note in your myopia that we all eat, breath the same air, do not have any actual way thats truly new of killing people or disobeying yield signs. So, as a consequence of our similarities, we might have the same type and scope of law, as well as our forefathers being English and not opposed to every bit of British government or jurisprudence, have patterned some stuff after what they knew worked.



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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 10:19:22 AM   
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Someone please explain to me, how a same-sex marriage ban is not CLEARLY a violation of the 14th Amendment Equal Protection clause.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Marriage is indeed regulated by state law. Does not a ban on same-sex marriage CLEARLY abridge the privileges of citizens of the United States?


Regulated by federal law. Which last I checked, is above all 46 states, 4 commonwealths, 1 district, and 6 territories. Specifically under the concept of 'Freedom of Religion' under the 1st amendment. Which means the states can not create a law that would infringe on someone's federal rights. In this case, and in light of a recent US Supreme Court ruling, disallows states from designing marriage laws that prohibit or hinder a gay couple's desire to marry. If its 'OK' for the Christian to get married, its 'OK' for the agnostics to get married (and the same for the gay couple). Otherwise we open the door to what George Orwell explained as: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal" (a paraphrasing from 'Animal Farm').

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I am no Constitutional Scholar. But it seems very clear to me.


President Obama is one!

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01
Even if, in state law, marriage is clearly defined as between a man and a woman... Doesn't that definition ITSELF abridge the privileges of same-sex couples?


How is the mechanism handled in day-to-day existence? People in the South once used segregation to allow discrimination to run havoc without responsibility of the laws. That 'separate but equal' was the bullshit argument used. Which lasted until the US Supreme Court ruling on 'Brown vs. Board of Education' started destroying things.

Its well understood that just because the US Supreme Court states one thing, doesn't mean those whom were against it will instantly convert. No, they will try any and all means to circumvent the ruling and find loopholes. Thereby allowing denial of marriage licenses to gay couples. That we have this concept called 'HISTORY' that conservatives think no one reads about. And this technology called 'computers' and 'The Internet' they also think no one will use.

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It looks to me that SCOTUS got it EXACTLY right here. The 14th Amendment basically gave the Federal government wide authority over the application of state law.


SCOTUS got things right on this one. Its a no-brainer for most of us that do not use religion to spew hatred and anger. Because outside of rightwing religious nuts, no one seems to have a problem with the GLBT community getting married.

The 14th amendment does not give the federal government wide authority over state law. It reinforces the material that came before it, and the history of why it was created in the first place.

Sure, Obama is a constitutional scholar that said publicly, 22 times, it wasn't lawful for him to bypass congress and pardon illigal aliens, and then he did.

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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 10:21:17 AM   
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Very well, then according to the 14th Amendment, my privileges are safeguarded and these include food, shelter, internet access and marrying my first cousin since marriage is a right that cannot be restricted. Also, the Constitution does not specify how many marriages are a right so I can now marry multiple women should I be so foolish as to do so and my right to do so is protected.


Again, not true. States are constitutionally free to define marriage (US courts) as a contract between two people only.

Furthermore, any govt. provision of food, clothing and shelter is subject to the various state and federal laws and are in no way guaranteed constitutional law but the 14th amend. requires their equal protection.



To be fair to Arturas. States being "Constitutionally Free" to define something is NOT the same thing as that something being defined in the Constitution.

So, then, is marriage defined in the constitution? Or is it a subject of those rights not specifically given to the federal government are reserved to the states?

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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 11:45:10 AM   
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Absolutely not Stare Decisis. We sort of made the point even with the AOC that we were not bound by English law. The fact that there are only a limited number of ways to form a woman for torture, they are not infinite. You might note in your myopia that we all eat, breath the same air, do not have any actual way thats truly new of killing people or disobeying yield signs. So, as a consequence of our similarities, we might have the same type and scope of law, as well as our forefathers being English and not opposed to every bit of British government or jurisprudence, have patterned some stuff after what they knew worked.





Its a pointless argument since the constitution is literally cut and paste English law. The titles dont count, the substance does. Labeling a turd 'chocolate delight' is still shit. The brits living here didnt even lose their land rights because the same law transferred. We live in an easily provable feudal society right here right now today. Caveat: 'in substance'.



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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 12:10:35 PM   
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It is not cut and paste English law. Here is English law on the protection of badgers:

http://www.law.ox.ac.uk/lrsp/overview/legislation.php

Bloody ell you're fookin last, mate.

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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 2:11:05 PM   
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thats a great reference for anyone who is foolish enough to accept that the US Constitution was created in 1992. Yet another strawman argument and waste of time.

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RE: 14th Ammendment - 7/7/2015 3:10:47 PM   
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Yet another headpipe blown on sputtering asswipe. Why would anyone, even you with your lack of comprehension of reality think 1992 for the constitution?

It wouldnt matter though, the exact same dumping by acclimation of the states of the AOC would still have occurred, but with the 'conservatives' we have today, probably not.

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