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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/9/2016 7:23:46 AM   
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Do you suppose that is why the nutsuckers were so misinformed on Iraq, because Rice and Powell had SAPs on their computers, and the feeble minded nutsuckers were played by foreign intel operatives?

Or, do you think it was just because they were stupid nutsuckers?

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/10/2016 11:50:20 AM   
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And the news today:

Two emails where Hillary asked for the emails to be printed without the security classifications.

Thus, forever blowing a whole in her oft repeated lie that she never received documents that were marked classified when she received them. She is directing two of her aides to break- huma and jake sullivan - to break the law.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/10/2016 12:10:03 PM   
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From the nutsucker slobbering blogs. Not news. Not credible. Not factual. Has all the earmarks of nutsuckerism except the citation of the nutsucker slobber blog.

Talking points are not necessarily some stupid shit that nutsuckers say into microphones.

They are for media consumption, talk circuits and so on. Why bother doing it classified?

Heard anything from your asshole buddies lately your Ass Gargler insider and your Feebleminded Blog Imbeciles?

I suppose not, they have all almost quit now. Almost.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/10/2016 12:34:54 PM   
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I peeked at those two national review articles---good reads (unless you are a comrade whose main hope lies in distortion, denial and conspiracy theories).

one of them lead me to this one:

"Ex-Spies Say That Clinton’s Illegal Server Triggered Widespread Devastation"

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...here is some of the devastation likely caused by Clinton’s exposure of SAP secrets:

1. Intel officers responsible for those programs must be alerted.

2. Once alerted that SAP was mishandled and on a system that has been attacked, it is only prudent to end those programs.

3. What does ending those programs mean? Depending on the SAP involved, it could mean redoing war plans, terminating ongoing covert actions, rethinking how the exposed covert actions must be done and executing on that new plan, or, if it reveals a source, removing that source from his environment.

4. That has a significant impact. Presume, if you will, that it was a source. If that source were providing intel of such value that it rose to the SecState, now we’ve lost that source.

5. Intel officers care about their sources, and for two reasons. One, we’re human beings. We don’t want those assisting us and our country to be hurt, even though we recognize the danger in which they are placing themselves. Two, the business model doesn’t work very well if sources think they’ll be outed. The US intel community already has so much trouble in that regard due to Edward Snowden and Bradley [now Chelsea] Manning. This just compounds it. Think about the next meeting between a prospective source and a CIA case officer trying to recruit that source to risk his/her life for the United States: “Are you sure a high-level official won’t out me?”...

[Martha Sutherland] spent 19 years as an operations officer in the Central Intelligence Agency.

“The fact that she had a completely separate system for her chats with Sid Blumenthal and others is outrageous,” this former CIA agent observes. “And then the tie-in to the Clinton Foundation and the quid pro quo is another felony count. If I had cut and pasted classified documents and put them in an e-mail on my unclassified server to avoid a written record, I would have been frog-walked in handcuffs out of Langley, no questions asked.”...

“It goes beyond having classified stuff without markings,” Sutherland says. “It is the fact that she maintained a shadow communications system, separate from the government-mandated, secure system. And she was the BOSS! Its existence, the now damning news of SAP info on it, and her continued denial that she did anything wrong are proof positive that Hillary and the Clintons still think they are above the law! Enough already — the BIG HOUSE for Hillary, not the White House, for goodness sakes!”


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430597/hillary-clinton-email-server-former-intelligence-officers-havoc?target=topic&tid=4571

I half think, if she becomes the nominee, whoever the republican candidate is would do well to share this content at the first "debate."

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/10/2016 12:52:36 PM   
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Nice quote from the article. Were they talking about Hillary, Condalezza Rice (who apparently handled classified materials in the same way) , Colin Powell (who also handled classified materials the same way) or Scooter Libby (who was convicted for outing a CIA agent)?

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/10/2016 1:07:46 PM   
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Martha Sutherland only spent 18 years in the CIA and has caterwauled about any information getting out about anything.

http://www.nysun.com/arts/she-gives-spies-a-bad-name/6360/
http://www.law.du.edu/images/uploads/corporate-governance/gov-cases-sutherland-complaint.pdf

But she has outted herself as being in the CIA.

I hear the all to common nutsucker sounds of nutsuckers cockgargling.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/10/2016 2:29:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TallClevDom

Nice quote from the article. Were they talking about Hillary, Condalezza Rice (who apparently handled classified materials in the same way) , Colin Powell (who also handled classified materials the same way) or Scooter Libby (who was convicted for outing a CIA agent)?


very clever. maybe you can write the fbi and tell them?

or go back and read post 407 in this thread, and then weigh what you just said in light of that, and the "distortion, denial, and conspiracy" I mention above.

while im here---hey comrade slobberblogger---the information you so would love to deny exists in reality or that has no factual basis? it comes directly from the emails which can be found here:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-state-huma-classified-info-00684/



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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/10/2016 3:09:42 PM   
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Yeah, but nobody is going to find nutsucker slobber blogs, and the ensuing cockgargling credible, particularly in light of fact.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/10/2016 5:29:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TallClevDom

Nice quote from the article. Were they talking about Hillary, Condalezza Rice (who apparently handled classified materials in the same way) , Colin Powell (who also handled classified materials the same way) or Scooter Libby (who was convicted for outing a CIA agent)?


Reposting from post 408

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Lets see - the news was released by Elijah Cummings (d), ranking member.
The classification was done *ten years* after the email was sent.
The person that classified the emails at the state dept was a hillary clinton appointee.

Colin Powell says he doesn't see anything classified in the emails - which were comments by two US ambassadors on publicly available knowledge being relayed to Powell.

I'm not going to go into the other email, which was emails sent to Condi's assistant. Suffice it to say - its the same thing - two attempts by democrats to provide clinton with political cover saying - oh look everyone does it.

Even if true (and its not) its not a defense when your 4, not a defense when your Secretary of State.


So, not really the same thing now, is it.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/11/2016 7:10:53 AM   
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Ja, thats right, one is nutsucker slobbering, and the other is from Elijah Cummings.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/11/2016 8:06:11 PM   
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New news today.

First, it seems that the investigation into mishandling classified information has expanded past clinton's direct aides (Mills, abedin, sullivan) and now includes her lont time fixer in the state department - Patrick Kennedy.

Interestingly, the state department originally refused to release information because it was classified. They have subsequently changed the classification to foai b(5); they are refusing to release it due to executive privilege.

So - you know who controls the classification of documents at the state department? Patrick Kennedy.

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2015/09/05/hillarys-fixer-state-department-patrick-kennedy/

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/12/2016 8:33:37 AM   
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Sep 15, 2015, how new is that? Yeah, nutsucker slobber bloggers have an inside track to FBI investigations.

Uh, no doubt this is the real deal. LOL. Asswipe. Useless asswipe.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/12/2016 2:15:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TallClevDom

Nice quote from the article. Were they talking about Hillary, Condalezza Rice (who apparently handled classified materials in the same way) , Colin Powell (who also handled classified materials the same way) or Scooter Libby (who was convicted for outing a CIA agent)?

Actually that is not what Libby was convicted for, but his conviction would be a precedent for charging Hillary. It has also been demonstrated that
A the law didn't come into effect till Rice and Powell were gone.
and
B Neither Rice not Powell had their staff remove classifications from information, which Hillary did.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/12/2016 2:24:54 PM   
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and has also been demonstrated that the law did not come into effect when Hillary was secretary of state.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/12/2016 4:19:28 PM   
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Incorrect. One law took effect after clinton .. true.
But the general laws saying that appropriate care must be exercised in handling secret information, as well as archival requirements has been around far longer.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/12/2016 6:43:44 PM   
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"Former Obama Defense Intel Chief Says Hillary Clinton Should ‘Step Down’"

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In an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller News Foundation, Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (Ret.) said he thought the former Secretary of State should leave the Democratic presidential race: ”I think Hillary Clinton, for the good of the country, should step down and let this FBI investigation play out.”

Flynn headed the DIA from July 2012 until August 2014 and co-authored a 2010 report that criticized the U.S. intelligence community for failing to pay enough attention to social factors in Afghanistan.

Flynn and other high-ranking former intelligence officials told TheDCNF they are alarmed that some of the nation’s most highly classified documents contained in a secretive program called the Special Access Program (SAP) were transferred to Clinton’s unclassified home server.

The documents “had to be moved off electronically or removed out of the secure site physically, then it had to be put onto an unclassified email system,” Flynn said.“Someone who does this is completely irresponsible, but totally unaccountable and shows a streak of arrogance to the American public that is unworthy of anyone thinking they can run for President of the United States.”

“This is unbelievable,” Flynn said. “I don’t think anybody should be talking about her being potentially the next President of the United States.”

The former intelligence officials told TheDCNF they were alarmed when they learned that Clinton’s server held documents from the nation’s highest classified security system called the Special Access Program (SAP).

Charles McCullough, III, the inspector general for the Intelligence Community said Jan. 14 that “several dozen emails” on Clinton’s home server included SAP documents, higher than “Top Secret.”

Placement of SAP-classified information on her private server was the “single, most dangerous security violation that can ever happen to the United States,” said Col. James Waurishuk, former deputy director of intelligence for the U.S. Central Command.

SAP material was “the most stringently compartmented and protected information in the entire U.S. government,” said Waurishuk, who worked on the White House National Security Council during former President George H.W. Bush’s tenure.

While Special Forces Col. James Williamson (Ret.) told TheDCNF that SAP classified documents are “the most sensitive of sensitive information” and that normal classified storage facilities, called Special Compartmentalized Information Facilities (SCIF), cannot provide adequate protection for SAP information.

“Within a SCIF, you have an additional SCIF, which is even further compartmentalized for SAP’s, giving them an additional layer of security,” Williamson said.

The SAP system is so restricted that one SAP clearance does not entitle a government official to access another SAP. In addition, “Top Secret” clearance does not automatically permit a government official to view a SAP document. Government officials can only have access on a need-to-know basis.

Defense Secretary Ash Carter said in a February 2013 guidance document, “SAPs must be established and maintained only when absolutely necessary to protect the nation’s most sensitive capabilities.”

Carter also warned that “access to a SAP will be strictly limited to the minimum number of personnel necessary for execution of the program.”

At least one of the emails on Clinton’s server was coded as “HCS-O,” which refers to human intelligence sources in an ongoing operation, according to Fox News.

“If we had a high placed human asset at a high level Taliban or al Qaeda location, that would be an HSCO,” Williamson told TheDCNF. “So when that was compromised, and it was compromised because it was on an unclassified server in Chappaqua, conceivably that was a human agent or possibly a U.S. intelligence officer that was exposed,” he said. Chappaqua, N.Y. is the private Clinton residence where the server resided.

Warishuk agreed, saying that having SAP documents on the server, “can result in the death of people in the field.”

Moving SAP-classified documents from the government’s secure transmission system to her non-secure computer channel presented Clinton and her aides with formidable barriers to overcome.

“You have to physically do it. You have to willfully violate the law. There is no connectivity in any way between classified and non-classified systems,” said Williamson.

“In order for Mrs. Clinton to get Top Secret/Special Access Programs onto her private server, numerous, redundant safeguards were deliberately bypassed, probably by unauthorized personnel who were given access to these documents. It was a deliberate, intentional act. It just could not happen by accident,” Waurishuk said.

Encrypted SAP documents are sent to a computer channel via satellites maintained by the National Security Agency. Users in a SAP, SCIF normally cannot print or fax information to any non-SAP system or unsecured system. Thumb nail drives, cell phones and any kind of Wi-Fi are strictly forbidden inside a SAP, SCIF.

Each SAP details information for a specific, designated operation, weapon system, military test, diplomatic activity or intelligence operation.

Waurishuk, who was a SAP program manager at one point in his career, said a government official “cannot have accesses to a SAP’s unless they receive a special indoctrination into the SAP based on an operational ‘must know’ that exceeds all other ‘need to know’ standards.”

He said that Clinton’s “staff aides like Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills had absolutely ‘zero’ reason to have any access to any SAPs, period. How that happened and who authorized it is criminal in itself.”...



https://stream.org/former-obama-defense-intel-chief-says-hillary-clinton-step/

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/13/2016 7:26:00 AM   
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quote:

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Incorrect. One law took effect after clinton .. true.
But the general laws saying that appropriate care must be exercised in handling secret information, as well as archival requirements has been around far longer.



Yup, even in the days of Rice and Powell, but good luck on finding that there was not appropriate care. Fucking stupid, typical pathetic, useless, whining, shit your pants, nutsuckerism.



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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/15/2016 4:54:29 PM   
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"Pollster Pat Caddell: Hillary Clinton Email Scandal ‘Worse Than Watergate’"

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On Breitbart News Saturday on Sirius XM, Pollster Pat Caddell, a former adviser to President Jimmy Carter, told host and Breitbart News Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon that the Hillary Clinton email scandal is “worse than Watergate.”

Long the pinnacle of modern American political scandal, Nixon resigned after he was connected to the break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters.

“This is the greatest scandal in the history of the United States,” Caddell said. “They all ought to be indicted. This is worse than Watergate.”

Clinton, he explained, would soon be exposed for using her connections in the State Department to enrich her family, her foundation, and her supporters.

“They were selling out the national interests of the United States directly to adversaries and others for money,” he said. “There is just nothing that satisfies them. They are the greediest white trash I have ever seen.”


the full interview is at the site:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/13/pollster-pat-caddell-hillary-clinton-e-mail-scandal-worse-than-watergate/

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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/15/2016 5:22:12 PM   
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lol redstate, daily caller, breitbart and whats the other one?? oh ya, lol judicial watch:)

total twatwafflery in 3.....2.....1....


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RE: Hillary Probed - 2/15/2016 5:27:59 PM   
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sorry, theres no one on your approved liberal source list that's interested in telling the truth about Hillary.

and for the most part, facts don't change just because they are coming from a source you don't like.

by the way, pat caddell is a lifelong democrat who worked for jimmy carter.

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