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bounty44 -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 5:39:57 AM)

ive made 2700 posts here since ive joined; roughly 50-60 of them included references from townhall.com. that's ~2% of my posts.

you could also get a clue, be a big boy, and actually deal with the content instead of incessantly crying about the source.





hot4bondage -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 7:21:06 AM)

~FR~

FBI Director Comey to give statement at 11:00 Eastern time. Resignation??




Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 7:35:19 AM)

FR..
If only the RW had paid this much attention to the economy, jobs, vet affairs, immigration etc etc etc, the world would be in a much better place
(LOL)




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:02:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

ive made 2700 posts here since ive joined; roughly 50-60 of them included references from townhall.com. that's ~2% of my posts.

you could also get a clue, be a big boy, and actually deal with the content instead of incessantly crying about the source.





I did deal with the content all the way thru, factless nutsucker slobber blogs. It doesn't change. Wipe your ass, borrow a sack.





thompsonx -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:04:03 AM)


ORIGINAL: bounty44

ive made 2700 posts here since ive joined; roughly 50-60 of them included references from townhall.com. that's ~2% of my posts.

What percetage of them have been you sniviling about how "unfair" people are to you?[8|]




Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:17:42 AM)

no charges




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:19:33 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: hot4bondage

~FR~

FBI Director Comey to give statement at 11:00 Eastern time. Resignation??


just got done watching...you can imagine there's going to be tons written about their recommendation.




Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:21:57 AM)

yes, so what is your pov Bounty?




thompsonx -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:35:52 AM)


ORIGINAL: bounty44


just got done watching...you can imagine there's going to be tons written about their recommendation.


Haven't you told us he was going to recomend an indictment?
Is this the point where you admit to being a partisan moron?




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:35:58 AM)

very impressed with what the fbi director said and his ability to speak, but there was so much of it it'd be nice to have a transcript.

my first take away is that while they are more or less saying she did things that were illegal, a prosecutor would have a difficult time bringing charges.

and again, there's going to be tons written about it in the coming days.




thompsonx -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:37:22 AM)


ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yes, so what is your pov Bounty?

His pov seems to be that he has both feet in his mouth and needs a pry bar.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:42:12 AM)

Well, the FBI will now resign en masse.

But let's think of all the people who are in on the 'consipracy'
those we should expect:
Bill
Hillary
Obama
Lynch
147 FBI agents
FBI Director
Gowdy
Guccifer
Assange
Entire State Department
DOJ
Foreign Affairs committee
Legislative Affairs committee

someone care to add some more?





mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:49:05 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

very impressed with what the fbi director said and his ability to speak, but there was so much of it it'd be nice to have a transcript.

my first take away is that while they are more or less saying she did things that were illegal, a prosecutor would have a difficult time bringing charges.

and again, there's going to be tons written about it in the coming days.


https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b.-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

there you go. Its not from townhall my bolshevik friend, but it will do until they put out their statement.




Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 8:52:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

very impressed with what the fbi director said and his ability to speak, but there was so much of it it'd be nice to have a transcript.

my first take away is that while they are more or less saying she did things that were illegal, a prosecutor would have a difficult time bringing charges.

and again, there's going to be tons written about it in the coming days.


Heres one from the FBI
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b.-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

Only prepared remarks tho, not the actual speech.

Cspan Video and transcript can be found here...http://www.c-span.org/video/?412231-1/fbi-director-james-comey-says-criminal-prosecution-appropriate-hillary-clinton-email-case

But he did say that "the FBI cannot recommend prosecution on criminal charges" Not that " a prosecutor would have a difficult time bringing charges."
But it will be interesting to see what IS written when the talking points are out...




Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 9:03:55 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, the FBI will now resign en masse.

But let's think of all the people who are in on the 'consipracy'
those we should expect:
Bill
Hillary
Obama
Lynch
147 FBI agents
FBI Director
Gowdy
Guccifer
Assange
Entire State Department
DOJ
Foreign Affairs committee
Legislative Affairs committee

someone care to add some more?



snowden?
Im assuming there WILL be more leaks before the election tho.




thompsonx -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 9:22:32 AM)

80 pages of pant shitting and promises only to have "communist,left wing fbi director" fold [8|]




Lucylastic -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 10:01:47 AM)

My bad, I didnt source my source...
slap on the wrist for me.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 10:02:35 AM)

Their only whine now since he was brought into the government by W, its Bushe's fault




CreativeDominant -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 11:01:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

very impressed with what the fbi director said and his ability to speak, but there was so much of it it'd be nice to have a transcript.

my first take away is that while they are more or less saying she did things that were illegal, a prosecutor would have a difficult time bringing charges.

and again, there's going to be tons written about it in the coming days.


Heres one from the FBI
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b.-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

Only prepared remarks tho, not the actual speech.

Cspan Video and transcript can be found here...http://www.c-span.org/video/?412231-1/fbi-director-james-comey-says-criminal-prosecution-appropriate-hillary-clinton-email-case

But he did say that "the FBI cannot recommend prosecution on criminal charges" Not that " a prosecutor would have a difficult time bringing charges."
But it will be interesting to see what IS written when the talking points are out...

There is evidence the statutes were violated, Comey says, but no one ever gets charged for that so Hillary shouldn't either.

She's going to get away with it. Not because anyone thinks she didn't do it. The FBI director knows damn well she did it. He even said in the presser that her statements about a) never sending or receiving classified e-mails; and b) turning over all her work-related e-mails were clearly not true.

He absolutely lambasted her lack of care for the security of classified e-mails, even up to and including the use of non-secure devices when overseas, when it would be especially easy for hostile actors to gain access to her devices - which Comey acknowleges may well have happened.

But in referring the matter to DOJ prosecutors, the FBI recommends no charges. Why? Not because there isn't evidence she broke the law. There is. But because typically no one gets charged on the basis of such evidence, so Hillary won't either.
His quote:

"Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. In looking back into our investigations, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges based on these facts."

So in other words, precedent is that the DOJ overlooks such cases unless they can show that the illegal handling of classified material was for the purpose of committing treason or something like that. Not just because there is evidence the law was broken.

Another detail Comey revealed: From the 30,000 e-mails the FBI reviewed, 110 e-mails and 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agencies have been determined to have classified information at the time they were sent or received. And eight contained top secret information, while 36 contained secret information.

Hillary flat-out lied about that. Comey goes on to say that when someone is caught acting so irresponsibly, there would normally be some sort of sanction: "Those persons would be subject to security or administrative sanctions, but that's not what's being decided here."

But not in this case. In this case the action being contemplated is to make her president.

Hillary certainly did not get off scot-free as far as what Comey said. He ripped her to shreds for the way her schlock, homebrew e-mail server was set up and maintained, and for its woefully inadequate security. The fact that she will apparently not be charged should not fool anyone into thinking she didn't break the law or that she did her job well.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (7/5/2016 11:23:23 AM)

nutsuckers shouldn't fool anyone into thinking she broke the law, and they aren't doing it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/10/us/office-of-personnel-management-hackers-got-data-of-millions.html?_r=0
Defense Department computers 1991, NASA 1994, Defense Department again 1996, (and ongoing) Pentagon 1998, Senate 1998, US Army 1998, Whitehouse, HHS, CIA 2001, and many more.

I have no idea why anyone would comment on the home-brew government servers as some respectable thing.





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